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    Still haven't read them I see, so much for your claims of being a truth seeker. Pathetic.
    I have read them and you are full of . Make your own argument. You cannot do it.

    As for the 'blast' of the PBS piece please link the proof of that. You are long on assertions and devoid of proof.

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    i sincerely doubt TSA actually read through every single witness statement

    its just coming off as "oh, YOU haven't read it? then i win this argument by default"

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    Of course I read through every single witness statement, I am emotionally invested in this case.

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    Of course I read through every single witness statement, I am emotionally invested in this case.
    Why?

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    Because I too have been unfairly targeted by law enforcement and arrested under false charges.

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    Because I too have been unfairly targeted by law enforcement and arrested under false charges.
    Your stance on the the matter seems strange considering.

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    Your stance on the the matter seems strange considering.
    How so?

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you are pro-police. Not just on this issue either.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that you are pro-police. Not just on this issue either.
    I will correct you, I am not pro-police. The majority of my interactions with police have been negative. I'm still alive though so there's that.

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    I will correct you, I am not pro-police. The majority of my interactions with police have been negative. I'm still alive though so there's that.
    So, you just don't like black people? I'm confused.

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    So, you just don't like black people? I'm confused.
    I was born in Los Angeles and went to school in Long Beach, been around black people my whole life. I like all black people that are good people. Why bring up race?

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    I just don't understand your angle on the Michael Brown case specifically, and cases involving police killing unarmed minorities generally. Especially considering what you're telling me now.

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    I just don't understand your angle on the Michael Brown case specifically, and cases involving police killing unarmed minorities generally. Especially considering what you're telling me now.
    if michael brown was an unarmed white man to get killed by the police, would you care as much?

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    I just don't understand your angle on the Michael Brown case specifically, and cases involving police killing unarmed minorities generally. Especially considering what you're telling me now.
    What was my angle in the Mike Brown case?

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    if michael brown was an unarmed white man to get killed by the police, would you care as much?
    Yes. Why wouldn't I?

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    What was my angle in the Mike Brown case?
    My perception is apparently wrong, so maybe you should clarify.

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    My perception is apparently wrong, so maybe you should clarify.
    I can't clarify if I don't know what angle you think I had.

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    Yes. Why wouldn't I?
    because you keep making it a point that he was a black man... just seems like it has added some extra fuel for many, including yourself

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    because you keep making it a point that he was a black man... just seems like it has added some extra fuel for many, including yourself
    I think there is an issue between blacks and the police which is specific and unique to them and I understand their frustration. My main focus is the increasing, unchecked, unpunished non prosecution violence against all Americans perpetrated by law enforcement.

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    I can't clarify if I don't know what angle you think I had.
    Again, correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that you took the side of no wrong doing by Wilson, Brown was a thug and deserved to die and blacks have no reason to be upset.

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    Again, correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that you took the side of no wrong doing by Wilson, Brown was a thug and deserved to die and blacks have no reason to be upset.
    Why does it confuse you that I like black people and still think there was no wrong doing by Wilson and the people of Ferguson had no reason to burn their town down? Are you confused by the blacks that share the same opinion as me?

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    Why does it confuse you that I like black people and still think there was no wrong doing by Wilson and the people of Ferguson had no reason to burn their town down? Are you confused by the blacks that share the same opinion as me?
    I'm not confused by that. I had no idea how you felt about black people until I asked. Personally, I have no trouble separating the people who are legitimately angry, hurt and frustrated by the situation and criminal opportunists who burn and loot. A lot of people just lump them all together and I find that very upsetting. For the record, it is not my intention to insult or offend you. I am just trying to understand your position on, what seems to me to be, a very complicated issue that has a much wider scope than this specific case.

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    I'm not confused by that. I had no idea how you felt about black people until I asked. Personally, I have no trouble separating the people who are legitimately angry, hurt and frustrated by the situation and criminal opportunists who burn and loot. A lot of people just lump them all together and I find that very upsetting. For the record, it is not my intention to insult or offend you. I am just trying to understand your position on, what seems to me to be, a very complicated issue that has a much wider scope than this specific case.
    If Wilson's account is to be believed as the grand jury did, is their anger even legitimate?

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    I don't believe Wilson is being completely honest and I feel that he had an opportunity to avoid escalating the situation if he was indeed first attacked in his cruiser. Also, tension was apparently high between the police and the black community in Ferguson prior to the shooting. So, yes... I think the anger is legitimate.

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    I don't believe Wilson is being completely honest and I feel that he had an opportunity to avoid escalating the situation if he was indeed first attacked in his cruiser. Also, tension was apparently high between the police and the black community in Ferguson prior to the shooting. So, yes... I think the anger is legitimate.
    why do you think that is? anything to do with Ferguson being 67% AA and yet only 3 officers in the police department are black?

    or that ferguson in general has high crime rates? (http://www.areavibes.com/ferguson-mo/crime/). and that high crime tends to lead to increased police interaction

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