So what you're saying is what most sane people have been saying for awhile now. In order for Kawhi to be great, he needs to be surrounded by great players. Well said!! I could have said it better but now, I don't have to.
So what you're saying is what most sane people have been saying for awhile now. In order for Kawhi to be great, he needs to be surrounded by great players. Well said!! I could have said it better but now, I don't have to.
Kawhi blossomed after the spurs best PG ever got injured..
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Oh, it's all Parker's fault per par.Somebody's got to be the scapegoat. That Parker, such a frivolous panty waste.
That wasn't the point you were trying to make, tbh.
You said Kawhi is only good with Great players around him. I showed why and how that's not true
and now you're defecting
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I was replying to your post that stated:
I didn't realize you were talking about Patty. My bad and LOL.Kawhi blossomed after the spurs best PG ever got injured.
Because that wasn't even the conversation to begin with..
You've already embarrassed yourself with your own facts tbh.
and proved my points with your own facts and stats
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If Parker comes back from his second mid season vacation in two years, playing like a puss, again, I''ll be on the trade Parker bandwagon. All these other guys are playing their hearts out, while Tony is either sitting on the bench or running through the motions in the game.
You have no point.
You steered the conversation, not me. Facts are facts whether you choose to believe them or not. Shawn mar... excuse me, Kawhi Leonard needs play makers around him to make him look good. You're right. They don't have to be stars but, they have to draw attention away from the defense so Kawhi can do his thanggg. That's when Leonard isn't complaining of blurry vision, sore hands or tooth aches.
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makes sense, tbh... not making excuses for him, but when you have a shot blocker, you have to play and finish quicker... that puts a bigger strain in the hammy...
I dunno, just trying to make sense of why that happens, tbh...
Plus he was already hurt in the previous series against Portland, missing the 2nd half of the series-clincher... it's something that's been bothering him from earlier, IMO...
Parker taking a hot steamy on this thread, tbh.
Oh and OP is a got.
Kahwi is holding him back, tbh..
For combined seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1946-47 to 2014-15; age 32 or younger; sorted by descending Minutes Played.
Top 33
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
Wilt Chamberlain
Oscar Robinson
Dirk Nowitzki
Joe Johnson
Isiah Thomas
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Allen Iverson
Bill Russell
Elvin Hayes
LeBron James
Moses Malone
Karl Malone
Walt Bellamy
Buck Williams
Mike Bibby
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal
Paul Pierce
Charles Barkley
Adrian Dantley
Shawn Marion
Jason Kidd
Magic Johnson
Ray Allen
John Havlicek
Stephon Marbury
Rashard Lewis
Reggie Theus
Antoine Walker
Gary Payton
Tony Parker
The keyword is regular season. Please add playoffs minutes and the story is completely different.
For NBA / ABA, TD is already 1st and TP is already 12th all time in playoff minutes :
NBA/ABA
Rank Player MP 1. Tim Duncan 8902 2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 8851 3. Kobe Bryant 8641 4. Scottie Pippen* 8105 5. Shaquille O'Neal 8098 6. Karl Malone* 7907 7. Wilt Chamberlain* 7559 8. Magic Johnson* 7538 9. Bill Russell* 7497 10. Michael Jordan* 7474 11. Julius Erving* 7352 12. Tony Parker 7006 13. Dennis Johnson* 6994 14. Larry Bird* 6886 15. John Havlicek* 6860 16. Derek Fisher 6856 17. Robert Horry 6823 18. LeBron James 6717 19. John Stockton* 6398 20. Jerry West* 6321
I don't know how you goy these stats "under age 32", it would be interesting to have them with playoffs minutes
Tony is above Paul Pierce on that list if you include playoffs. He's also 2nd in games played (only behind Kobe) for a player by his 32nd birthday, since 1985. Not bad.
So when you look at all the mileage...there is a lot of mileage on the 32 year old legs.
If your figures are right (and I have no reason to doubt them), Parker has only Shaquille O'Neal between him and Timmy for regular season and playoff minutes played.
One of the things I noticed in the earlier posts is that, regardless of the amount of minutes or number of games, Parker has run further and faster than most any other point guard during his career. The team's dependence on him for the loop play and the speed with which he runs it (or at least the speed he used to have) have been the mainstay of the team's offense for the last several seasons.
Thus, not only is playing tons of minutes and tons of games, he has also been running further and faster than most players on any team.
As you say, not bad.
In multiple seasons, from 1985-86 to 2014-15, age 32 or younger, sorted by descending Games Played.
Code:Rk Player From To Pos G ▾ GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS GmSc 1 Kobe Bryant 1997 2011 G 1311 1143 48310 11594 25568 .453 9901 20561 .482 1693 5007 .338 8267 9913 .834 1512 5378 6890 6142 1947 718 3841 3513 33148 17.9 2 Tony Parker 2002 2015 G 1156 1135 38314 7968 16298 .489 7438 14642 .508 530 1656 .320 3620 4840 .748 484 2945 3429 6774 1069 93 2960 2052 20086 12.7 3 Kevin Garnett 1996 2009 F 1128 1091 42626 9134 18489 .494 8954 17859 .501 180 630 .286 4408 5637 .782 2992 9592 12584 4857 1543 1850 2831 2868 22856 18.0 4 Dirk Nowitzki 1999 2011 F 1117 1092 41361 9011 18985 .475 7675 15478 .496 1336 3507 .381 6648 7562 .879 1396 8208 9604 2977 1020 1101 2190 2911 26006 17.8 5 Shawn Kemp 1990 2003 F-C 1068 758 30840 5845 11891 .492 5809 11758 .494 36 133 .271 4690 6280 .747 3219 6087 9306 1821 1230 1394 2955 3968 16416 12.0 6 Joe Johnson 2002 2014 G 1063 987 38835 7117 16094 .442 5408 11485 .471 1709 4609 .371 2634 3304 .797 1015 3294 4309 4439 972 231 2210 1984 18577 12.1 7 Tim Duncan 1998 2009 F-C 1057 1056 39423 8743 17273 .506 8715 17117 .509 28 156 .179 5401 7876 .686 3338 9206 12544 3400 797 2536 2976 2865 22915 18.2 8 Mike Bibby 1999 2011 G 1052 1036 36560 5818 13363 .435 4199 9107 .461 1619 4256 .380 2598 3231 .804 583 2754 3337 5831 1253 169 2293 2099 15853 11.5 9 A.C. Green 1986 1996 F-C 1026 659 30816 4060 8082 .502 3926 7587 .517 134 495 .271 3076 4140 .743 2910 5196 8106 1181 859 513 1310 2110 11330 10.1 10 LeBron James 2004 2015 F-G 1025 1024 40938 10069 20369 .494 8663 16242 .533 1406 4127 .341 6676 8918 .749 1285 6263 7548 7004 1752 831 3432 1969 28220 22.3 11 Shaquille O'Neal 1993 2005 C 1023 1016 38804 10820 18798 .576 10819 18778 .576 1 20 .050 5830 11001 .530 4108 8297 12405 2966 676 2615 2963 3508 27471 21.7 12 Scottie Pippen 1988 1998 F-G 1011 910 36885 7124 14946 .477 6312 12432 .508 812 2514 .323 3144 4501 .699 2079 4945 7024 5364 2115 935 2895 3085 18204 15.2 13 Rasheed Wallace 1996 2007 F-C 998 936 34411 6089 12854 .474 5189 10217 .508 900 2637 .341 2284 3200 .714 1595 5295 6890 1904 958 1337 1662 3071 15362 11.5 14 Rashard Lewis 1999 2012 F 998 890 34240 5817 12845 .453 4011 8160 .492 1806 4685 .385 2666 3296 .809 1470 4121 5591 1832 1101 553 1635 2425 16106 11.6 15 Karl Malone 1986 1996 F 995 990 37911 9604 18479 .520 9535 18218 .523 69 261 .264 6712 9297 .722 2758 8086 10844 3090 1451 828 3103 3357 25989 20.1
It's for me the most re ed Parker sucks thread of the year
kudos to op tbh compe ion has been fierce this year
OP is a got, we all know that.
Enrique is probably the richest player among all current active Spurs players..
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