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Isn't gender all about the law? This boy was legally still a boy. Why didn't he emancipate and then legally change his gender to be a girl? Just because you say you're something doesn't make it so. Gots to do on your own.
Terrible person tbh.. I have a lot more respect for your average gay than a transgender. Their entire thought process around their sexuality reeks of deception and a lack of ethics tbh
Isn't gender all about the law? This boy was legally still a boy. Why didn't he emancipate and then legally change his gender to be a girl? Just because you say you're something doesn't make it so. Gots to do on your own.
ing weirdos if you ask me. Mental disabilities galore. Live in society or gtfo.
edit: I know society has changed b/c of legitimate issues like the Women's and Civil Rights movements, but this is taking it a bit too far. He was born a he, and no stupid misguided little boy should be pandered to. We live in a civilized society, not a bunch of freaks running around doing stupid .
The same can be said about Christianity which was the position of the kid's opposition.
I am fine with gays but transgender is something i will never understand and will always make me uncomfortable. Playing dress up and pretending to be something you aren't is for little kids.
Where did OP go? She said she wanted everyone's reaction but now she's disappeared
I'm here. And my basic rule is if I can't say something nice I won't say anything.
If you are comitted to "changing" your whole anatomy, you can successfully transition.
But you gotta be ready to spend lots of cash. Nothing is impossible if you have the green.
So if I wanted to be Megatron, I can just make everyone see me as 50 foot tall robot?
Just change your hairstyle, maybe change the pitch of your voice, and call yourself Megatron. That's pretty much the norm nowadays to changing sexes. Which reminds me, I better get a haircut soon before I become a girl and I'm forced to kill myself.
Not a good rule here. Speak your mind.
So I can't be Megatron or what about a T-Rex?
You can be a T-Girl if that's any consolation
Gender and sex are two completely different things. Sex is biological and gender is cultural (x)
Thus, transgender is defined as " of, relating to, or being a person (as a transsexual or transves e) who identifies with or expresses a gender iden y that differs from the one which corresponds to the person's sex at birth." (x)
With that being said, transgender has no relationship to "mental illness" as many of you all have said. This is culture, we are evolving and gender changes. It's uncomfortable. And many of these responses, in my opinion, is out of fear and lack of understanding. Transgender teens are, however, more likely to suffer from other types of mental illness, depression, anxiety, adhd, etc that would ultimately lead to suicide. Understanding the brain, mind, psychology, etc of someone who identifies as transgender is a new and emerging part of therapy, social work and social science as a whole. I don't claim to have answers, but I do claim to be accepting and unconditional toward everyone who is going through this.
Leelah Alcorn (as I will refer to her from here on out) was affected by the fear and lack of understanding of what gender iden y is and how we, as a society, deal with it. I understand many of the statements about her just needing to suck it up and deal with it for the next year until she could leave at the age of 18, however, let's go back to the mental health issues. In addition, emancipation from parents is costly (at least $200 to file) followed by any hearings and paperwork. While I cannot say for a fact if money was ever an issue for Leelah, it sure could have been.
I am unaware of what Leelah's parents' specific religion is. Christian is a catch all phrase and even though there are many many denominations that disapprove of the LGBTQA community, there are many that are accepting. For example Metropolitan Church and Travis Park UMC in San Antonio. Her parents were hard headed and not open and supportive of their child and her iden y. It hurts my heart to think of how unaccepting Leelah's parents were when there are many Christians that do and would have accepted her as the way she was. Sex transition is a process and is pricey as well. I am also unaware of where she was going to get the money to complete this surgery. I haven't done research on that either.
Anyway, it hurts my heart to see home of your reactions to this. Others have surprised me. That's my opinion and feel free to pick it apart and argue. I'm not going to.
I can't keep up with the mental aerobics in the transgender discussion when it comes to minors.
I have no problem with adults choosing to surgically alter themselves in any way they want, but I do have a problem with the idea that we have a societal obligation to affirm whatever a child or teenager believes about themselves. While there's a long way to go, we've made a lot of progress in moving away from gender norms and archetypes and accepting a variety of sexual preferences. There should be no reason Joshua/Leelah couldn't remain, sexually, a boy during his teenage years. He wanted gender reassignment treatment, his parents wouldn't let him have it, so he killed himself instead of waiting another year to be an adult and paying for the treatment/surgery himself. Basically, he didn't get what he wanted, so he killed himself by throwing himself in front of an innocent driver's car. He's not a hero and it's irresponsible to treat him like one... and it's especially sick to see people harassing his parents.
Yes, they should have been more supportive of some of his behavior, but that's relevant in a lot of family situations. Let him wear what he wants, date who he wants.... none of that is harmful. Tell him when he's an adult, he can take hormones and have whatever surgery he wants, change his name and live however he wants to live.
But most importantly, teach him that none of that defines his worth or who he is. For whatever reason, he had pinned his entire iden y on whether or not he had a female body and couldn't live another day with his current one. That's sad.
Last edited by Spurminator; 01-02-2015 at 05:02 PM.
Well said.
Unfortunately there are more Ashbeeighs on social media spreading garbage than Spurminators spreading truth.
What the is Q and A?LGBTQA
quadrosexual and andriosexual?
and Asexual (as well as ally) http://internationalspectrum.umich.edu/life/definitions
It hurts my heart that's his parents wouldn't let him cut off his penis
poor kid, he really lost life's lottery by being born in America to a christian family
I don't understand how removing his penis would make him anymore of a "woman". It would technically still be there. On the inside "biologically" (probably wrong term) he would still be a male. He would never have breasts (real with milk lol) or be able to have children. Always a male. Some ed up going on in that dude's head.
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