Is Tony Parker still the best PG on the Spurs' roster, tbh?

[Mugen]

Spurs wouldn't be able to get much for TP tbh. Boston's haul for Rondo was underwhelming and Rondo is 4years younger albeit coming off major injuries.

[ElNono]

Unfortunately, for PGs where their main advantage is speed, the writing is always on the wall. He can still be good for 15-16 ppg though, especially if we're playing against a team without shot blockers (70% of the league during the regular season)...

It even looked like he was transforming his game early this season with the 3 point shot, so it sucks that after a full summer of rest he still can't suit up... the Spurs will wait him out and hopefully we can have the better version of Parker when he comes back...

[ElNono]

But this thread isn't disrespecting Tony Parker..if anything, it's showing love to Patty Mills and Cory Joseph, 2 other Spurs..

Why am I supposed to support TP and his decline, but not show support to Patty and Joseph?

Are you concerned that TP's return might stunt Corey's development, tbh? Would that be a legit concern?

[Mel_13]

Are you concerned that TP's return might stunt Corey's development, tbh? Would that be a legit concern?

Kickin' that French poodle while he's down.

[ElNono]

[100%duncan]

Individually and when all three are healthy, the obvious answer is Parker. But with the system NOW, I repeat NOW and not 2-5 years before, it's really pushing me to say that Mills is the best one for us.

[Galileo]

Nando the Commando!!!

[Chinook]

People in this thread are being silly with this respect talk.

Parker should have a decent amount of value because he's on a long-term cheap deal.

[Malik Hairston]

Are you concerned that TP's return might stunt Corey's development, tbh? Would that be a legit concern?

It won't matter if Tony returns healthy and playing at a high level, tbh, let's hope Father Time is in a coma for 6 months..

[apalisoc_9]

People in this thread are being silly with this respect talk.

Parker should have a decent amount of value because he's on a long-term cheap deal.

STFU..

They are the big 3. Have some respect.

[pgardn]

If Parker is not the best PG on the team, there will be no chance at back to back.

[Malik Hairston]

Parker in the 2014 playoffs:

#7 in the rotation in PER
#8 in the rotation in WS
#8 in the rotation in TS%
#8 in the rotation in on/off metrics

Close-out games:

Portland Game 5: 0 points, 0 assists, 1 turnover, +/- of 0, Spurs win by 22
OKC Game 6: 8 points, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, +/- of -11, Spurs win by 5
Miami game 5: 16 points on 18 shots, 2 assists, +/- of +2, Spurs win by 17

Meh, tbh..

[Johnny RIngo]

Parker in the 2014 playoffs:

#7 in the rotation in PER
#8 in the rotation in WS
#8 in the rotation in TS%
#8 in the rotation in on/off metrics

Close-out games:

Portland Game 5: 0 points, 0 assists, 1 turnover, +/- of 0, Spurs win by 22
OKC Game 6: 8 points, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, +/- of -11, Spurs win by 5
Miami game 5: 16 points on 18 shots, 2 assists, +/- of +2, Spurs win by 17

Meh, tbh..

"but...but...but he led the team in point per game in the playoffs!"

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

he isn't.

funny seeing all the enrique fans be so defensive though.

[Johnny RIngo]

Cool, another thread to bump in spring...

In spring?

Summer is probably a better time. TP will most likely be statpadding against unathletic Euros and their defenses to vent off his frustration after another disappointing playoff run with the Spurs. TP loves playing in those meaningless international tournaments - it's the only chance he has to still look like a top tier point guard.

[Malik Hairston]

In spring?

Summer is probably a better time. TP will most likely be statpadding against unathletic Euros and their defenses to vent off his frustration after another disappointing playoff run with the Spurs. TP loves playing in those meaningless international tournaments - it's the only chance he has to still look like a top tier point guard.

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[ElNono]

TP has shown leadership though. Pop himself said it: "you didn't score 30, but you've shown great leadership". It was a teaching moment for Enrique: now that you can't outrun your opponent, pass the damn ball. It doesn't matter who gets the credit as long as we win.

And ultimately it's true... it doesn't matter if he didn't have a good playoff run, what matters is that he did his part to earn #5...

[apalisoc_9]

In spring?

Summer is probably a better time. TP will most likely be statpadding against unathletic Euros and their defenses to vent off his frustration after another disappointing playoff run with the Spurs. TP loves playing in those meaningless international tournaments - it's the only chance he has to still look like a top tier point guard.

[lefty]

With Patty coming off a great Finals performance and Joseph seemingly emerging, is Tony Parker still the best PG on the roster, tbh? Is he even in the top 2?

Should the Spurs act like the Patriots and move him before the rest of the league notices he isn't worth his contract?

He's never been our best PG tbh

[100%duncan]

If Parker is not the best PG on the team, there will be no chance at back to back.

He wasn't the best pg on the team last season.

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[Mr Bones]

I think it's essential for Tony to become a steady three point threat as he enters the next few seasons. Quick point guards are more prone to declining as they age-- it's inevitable. Tony's jump shot and free throw percentages have improved dramatically as he's gotten older and it just makes sense for him to use the three point shot as a weapon. All the signs point to him being capable of shooting a good percentage-- his mid range shot is very good, and his free throw shooting the last three years has been the best of his career. There's no reason to think he wouldn't be able to consistently shoot 36-38% from the three point line (and that's about Manu's career average) while increasing the number of attempts to at least twice his career average of 1.4 per game.

[Calispursfan11]

You guys are hilarious. When healthy and motivated, TP is still the best. This is a stupid thread. Role players Mills and Cojo might be able to do some things and put up good efficiency in limited minutes but they aren't leaders as was suggested earlier and they can't perform at TP's level in the playoffs. If you count Manu as a PG then, ok. He's a better playmaker than Tony, but when on, TP can go off for 30 on efficient shooting any given night. He's still one of our top guys - not as valuable as Kawhi or Timmy but at least 3rd or fourth best still.

[Brazil]

Ya because this is based on a single game, rather than the entire season and last year's playoffs like I said in the OP ..Jesus, some of these posters are too much, tbh..

So far this season, if you compare the 21 games played by Parker yes CJ has better metrics... As I said in another thread, again so far Parker has a terrible season by his own standards. Not sure why you bring Mills in this discussion, he has played two games... shhh

^^ What's funny and ironic is that none of the pro-Parker posters have actually presented an argument in his favor, tbh..they never really do..

Reputation and resume only takes you so far..Father Time isn't kind, tbh..

this is why you are full of tbh... plenty of arguments have been presented, you just don't bother reading them... not fitting your agenda. Saying that and again on these 21 games, yes Parker sucks

what? I never said Tony Parker was " "..I said he's an above average player, which is a compliment IMO..

I also always praise his career, he was a monster in 2012-2013, one of the great individual runs for a PG..

I'm not a player-fan, though, unlike so many of you..I put the Spurs first, and I recognize when a player is on the decline, even a top-10 all-time Spur like Parker..

In what world saying Parker is an above average player is a compliment... you do believe people are that dumb ? Parker has been on the decline plenty of time already cf the What ails Parker thread before 12-13 season for instance.

There is no way we can conclude dude is on the decline yet.

But this thread isn't disrespecting Tony Parker..if anything, it's showing love to Patty Mills and Cory Joseph, 2 other Spurs..

Why am I supposed to support TP and his decline, but not show support to Patty and Joseph?

Another example of you being phony... if you want to praise CJ and Patty, create a thread about CJ and Patty instead of is Parker the best PG of the roster ?

At one point same bunch of trolls were jeezing themselves on George Hill being a better PG than Parker, we saw where it ended.

As a conclusion, like Manu, Parker has deserved all the benefit of the doubts possible.

[Brazil]

Parker in the 2014 playoffs:

#7 in the rotation in PER
#8 in the rotation in WS
#8 in the rotation in TS%
#8 in the rotation in on/off metrics

Close-out games:

Portland Game 5: 0 points, 0 assists, 1 turnover, +/- of 0, Spurs win by 22
OKC Game 6: 8 points, 0 assists, 2 turnovers, +/- of -11, Spurs win by 5
Miami game 5: 16 points on 18 shots, 2 assists, +/- of +2, Spurs win by 17

Meh, tbh..

Nice example of cherry picking...

Portland game 5... are you serious ? he played 10 mn that game... Spurs butt ed Portland... they could have won this serie with the bench. If it was so easy it's also because Parker destroyed them first 3 games
OKC game 6... yup
Miami game 5... yup

Now why you don't talk about Dallas game 7 for instance ? And for the record, without Parker we don't see second round. shhh girl