Celebrating the best 32-year old Frenchie this team ever had...

[EVAY]

The whole "inspired by re-watching Game 4 of the Finals" part is all true, tbh... can't stop going back and taking a peek at what this team looks like when everyone is healthy...

Agree wholly with Boris' contribution in that and other finals games. One of the reasons I have always said that he was a strong candidate for finals VP, imo.

Only problem I have with Boris is that he is so hard to keep motivated to play as well as he can. Cuz he can really really really play great basketball. When he was directing Parker last night on which way to go with the pick, I thought to myself, "that would be great - if we could get him to be a floor leader". It would be outstanding, and likely keep his head in the game.

[pgardn]

Agree wholly with Boris' contribution in that and other finals games. One of the reasons I have always said that he was a strong candidate for finals VP, imo.

Only problem I have with Boris is that he is so hard to keep motivated to play as well as he can. Cuz he can really really really play great basketball. When he was directing Parker last night on which way to go with the pick, I thought to myself, "that would be great - if we could get him to be a floor leader". It would be outstanding, and likely keep his head in the game.

Thats ok as long as he is motivated for the playoffs.

Its amazing how much his game has evolved from his Phoenix days. He is one of the naturals that never really got the most out of his ability. Probably because he just seems so laid back. I think playing for the Spurs has illustrated his obvious gift. But there has to be a challenge, an important game that requires all of his talents.

Food seems to be a weakness. But his food palate may require proper stimulation like his basketball palate. So if he lived in France he would be huge.

[sook]

Unreal, a one man slice and dice against the entire cavs.

[pgardn]

Personally, I would be thrilled to see Tony never play another SECOND for this team if it means we would play better. And, tbh, if Tony doesn't get at least CLOSER to where he can be, or else change his approach on the court (which is what I really expect is needed), then he should sit for players who can contribute more.

And that is true for any player on the team, imo.

ditto

[pgardn]

Maybe he can be 3B, big butt Bobo

Add Belly.

[ElNono]

Thats ok as long as he is motivated for the playoffs.

Its amazing how much his game has evolved from his Phoenix days. He is one of the naturals that never really got the most out of his ability. Probably because he just seems so laid back. I think playing for the Spurs has illustrated his obvious gift. But there has to be a challenge, an important game that requires all of his talents.

Food seems to be a weakness. But his food palate may require proper stimulation like his basketball palate. So if he lived in France he would be huge.

Motivation is a biggie for Boris... he almost fell out of the league due to basically just that...

[Johnny RIngo]

Motivation is a biggie for Boris... he almost fell out of the league due to basically just that...

Nothing more soul-crushing than playing for the Bobcats

[Agloco]

Nono HAM trolling these tosbs

[KL2]

Unreal, a one man slice and dice against the entire cavs.

Daniel "Boobie" Gibson and Larry Hughes guarding him on the perimeter, Duncan pick and rolls as well as screens all day leaving things 1v1 at the rim for TP against Illgauskus/Gooden, c'mon son. Defensively he guarded Gibson (who had some solid games in the beginning), Snow, etc. basically a bunch of 1 dimensional 1 jump shooters. Possibly the worst Finals MVP of all time.

[AusEM]

So sorry. Didn't realize that you were unaware that although he was born in Belgium, he was raised in Paris, started his professional career in Paris, has consdered himself French - oh, and since you are probably equally unaware of this fact - is the same age as Boris, played with Boris as teenagers and have played with Boris on the French national team.

Anything else I can help you with about Tony's background before he came to the Spurs?

On a serious note, the thread about Spurs milestones mentions Tony having played 960 or so games, while Manu played 1,000+. Is this correct? I do not remember any serious injury for Tony (to have played more years but less games than Manu). Do you know when it happened?

[ElNono]

On a serious note, the thread about Spurs milestones mentions Tony having played 960 or so games, while Manu played 1,000+. Is this correct? I do not remember any serious injury for Tony (to have played more years but less games than Manu). Do you know when it happened?

It's probably a misunderstanding somewhere. Tony has played 964 regular season games + 196 playoff games. Manu has played 827 regular season games + 180 playoff games.

[EVAY]

On a serious note, the thread about Spurs milestones mentions Tony having played 960 or so games, while Manu played 1,000+. Is this correct? I do not remember any serious injury for Tony (to have played more years but less games than Manu). Do you know when it happened?

No, it is not correct, at least not on an apples to apples basis.

[AusEM]

It's probably a misunderstanding somewhere. Tony has played 964 regular season games + 196 playoff games. Manu has played 827 regular season games + 180 playoff games.

Thanks for the explanation. I must have read about Manu's 1,000 games in a different thread and confused them (since there is a different thread for regular season milestones).

[sook]

Daniel "Boobie" Gibson and Larry Hughes guarding him on the perimeter, Duncan pick and rolls as well as screens all day leaving things 1v1 at the rim for TP against Illgauskus/Gooden, c'mon son. Defensively he guarded Gibson (who had some solid games in the beginning), Snow, etc. basically a bunch of 1 dimensional 1 jump shooters. Possibly the worst Finals MVP of all time.

Why are you hating? That is far from the truth and you are seeing stuff through your the colored lens you to see through. Parker was unreal.

[ViceCity86]

Why are you hating? That is far from the truth and you are seeing stuff through your the colored lens you to see through. Parker was unreal.

Who is the girl in your signature? The last one almost nude.What,s her name?

[sook]

Who is the girl in your signature? The last one almost nude.What,s her name?

Jaime. I don't know her full name but I think Strange Love does.

[ElNono]

BRHornet was a big fan, IIRC

[Strange Love]

Jaime. I don't know her full name but I think Strange Love does.

Jaime Koeppe

BRHornet was a big fan, IIRC

He was the one who showed me the light.

[Calispursfan11]

No tonylove? tonee

[sook]

BRHornet was a big fan, IIRC

may he come back to us one day , he too showed me the light.

[sook]

Jaime Koeppe



He was the one who showed me the light.

grassy ass.

[KL2]

Why are you hating? That is far from the truth and you are seeing stuff through your the colored lens you to see through. Parker was unreal.

Uh, no. You clearly don't know what you're watching even though it's happening right in front of your eyes, you wouldn't be the 1st guy Parker has fooled though, look at all these Spurs fans that still think he can lead them to a le or that he deserved this FMVP lol.

Let's be real, the Cavs were a ing horrible team, Lebron was that team. Lebron was their defense/offense, and TD/Bowen took him completely out. The Cavs were old and incredibly unathletic even more than the Spurs, Parker never had to worry about someone swatting his shots, stealing his passes, having the foot speed to stay with him etc.

The perimeter defense Parker went up against consisted of Hughes (average defender at best), DBG a terrible defender in his 2nd season with limited experience, Snow and Jones as the backups. While Gooden/Illgauskus/Varejao waited in the paint.

But it's not like it really mattered who guarded Parker, because Duncan's screens always picked off his defender. Thus Parker was able to lose DBG/Hughes, then take things 1v1 at the rim against the bigs. Their bigs were absolutely no threat to block shots, they were very unathletic and all lacked foot speed, allowing Parker to simply run by them. Parker has a long history of choking around shot blockers/elite defenses so this was a pretty huge advantage for him as there weren't any.

Please, name me 1 all star that wouldn't be able to take those guys 1v1 at the rim or on the perimeter and absolutely dominate.

Offensively Lebron was the Cavs' offense, everyone around him were 1 dimensional shooters, pretty poor ones at that. Parker had the luxury of guarding these guys, they were no threat to score lol. It's pretty ridiculous how easy Parker had it in the '07 Finals on both sides of the ball.


Don't believe me just watch those highlights and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

1. Larry Hughes-Legit scoring
2. Duncan pick and roll, picks off Gibson, Illgauskus is slow as , leaving a pass any PG could make.
3. The defense is trying to crowd Duncan, leaving Parker 1 on 1 on the perimeter against DBG, he gets an easy layup vs Gooden who is absolutely not a shot blocking threat.
4. Gets Gooden/Pavlovic in the open court, 0 defense lmfao
5. TD pick and roll, TD neutralizes the defender, easy pass, Duncan layup, that's all TD right there.
6. TD Post up, draws double sucking in defense, spurs pass the ball breaking down the defense, Parker gets a wide open shot 1v1 at the rim against Gooden. All created by TD.
7. Good put back even though he probably didn't deserve the and 1.
8. Great pass, one of the best of his career.
9. Duncan screen leaves DBG/Illgauskus out of defensive position, Parker goes 1v1 against them, sucks in the defense, easy Duncan layup. Product of TD and just terrible defense.
10. TD sucks in defense drawing double, nearly a triple, freeing Parker up on the perimeter against Pavlovic? Easy 1v1 at the basket.
11. Standard drive and kick, nothing special.
12. Duncan running in the open court, picks off Gooden, TP now knows he has Hughes 1v1 at the rim, scores.
13. Duncan screen leaves an open jumper for TP against LBJ
14. Good pass I guess? Another play created by a Duncan screen, except this time freeing Manu up.
15. Duncan pick and roll, basic pass, the defense was not going to stop Duncan, another assist for TP.

Do I really need to go on?

[KL2]

Duncan was a monster, can't believe people watch these highlights and are giving Parker all the credit smh. Says a lot about people's basketball knowledge though.

[EVAY]

Duncan was a monster, can't believe people watch these highlights and are giving Parker all the credit smh. Says a lot about people's basketball knowledge though.

I don't doubt for a minute that all the attention that LeBron gave Duncan in that series made it easier for Parker to shine.

But isn't that the very definition of most of these things? Last year, our big three got most of the attention (and LeBron was on Parker a lot in '13 and '14) and Kawhi was able to shine.

It does not logically follow that Parker was not a worthy finals MVP, any more than it would follow that Kawhi was "only" the MVP due to the attention given to the big 3 stars.

You base your argument on how bad the Cavs defenders were...but the point is that by being whatever they were, Parker was able to do as well as he did.

It is not necessary to belittle a guy's achievement in order to put it into context.

[sook]

I don't doubt for a minute that all the attention that LeBron gave Duncan in that series made it easier for Parker to shine.

But isn't that the very definition of most of these things? Last year, our big three got most of the attention (and LeBron was on Parker a lot in '13 and '14) and Kawhi was able to shine.

It does not logically follow that Parker was not a worthy finals MVP, any more than it would follow that Kawhi was "only" the MVP due to the attention given to the big 3 stars.

You base your argument on how bad the Cavs defenders were...but the point is that by being whatever they were, Parker was able to do as well as he did.

It is not necessary to belittle a guy's achievement in order to put it into context.

Uh, no. You clearly don't know what you're watching even though it's happening right in front of your eyes, you wouldn't be the 1st guy Parker has fooled though, look at all these Spurs fans that still think he can lead them to a le or that he deserved this FMVP lol.

Let's be real, the Cavs were a ing horrible team, Lebron was that team. Lebron was their defense/offense, and TD/Bowen took him completely out. The Cavs were old and incredibly unathletic even more than the Spurs, Parker never had to worry about someone swatting his shots, stealing his passes, having the foot speed to stay with him etc.

The perimeter defense Parker went up against consisted of Hughes (average defender at best), DBG a terrible defender in his 2nd season with limited experience, Snow and Jones as the backups. While Gooden/Illgauskus/Varejao waited in the paint.

But it's not like it really mattered who guarded Parker, because Duncan's screens always picked off his defender. Thus Parker was able to lose DBG/Hughes, then take things 1v1 at the rim against the bigs. Their bigs were absolutely no threat to block shots, they were very unathletic and all lacked foot speed, allowing Parker to simply run by them. Parker has a long history of choking around shot blockers/elite defenses so this was a pretty huge advantage for him as there weren't any.

Please, name me 1 all star that wouldn't be able to take those guys 1v1 at the rim or on the perimeter and absolutely dominate.

Offensively Lebron was the Cavs' offense, everyone around him were 1 dimensional shooters, pretty poor ones at that. Parker had the luxury of guarding these guys, they were no threat to score lol. It's pretty ridiculous how easy Parker had it in the '07 Finals on both sides of the ball.


Don't believe me just watch those highlights and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

1. Larry Hughes-Legit scoring
2. Duncan pick and roll, picks off Gibson, Illgauskus is slow as , leaving a pass any PG could make.
3. The defense is trying to crowd Duncan, leaving Parker 1 on 1 on the perimeter against DBG, he gets an easy layup vs Gooden who is absolutely not a shot blocking threat.
4. Gets Gooden/Pavlovic in the open court, 0 defense lmfao
5. TD pick and roll, TD neutralizes the defender, easy pass, Duncan layup, that's all TD right there.
6. TD Post up, draws double sucking in defense, spurs pass the ball breaking down the defense, Parker gets a wide open shot 1v1 at the rim against Gooden. All created by TD.
7. Good put back even though he probably didn't deserve the and 1.
8. Great pass, one of the best of his career.
9. Duncan screen leaves DBG/Illgauskus out of defensive position, Parker goes 1v1 against them, sucks in the defense, easy Duncan layup. Product of TD and just terrible defense.
10. TD sucks in defense drawing double, nearly a triple, freeing Parker up on the perimeter against Pavlovic? Easy 1v1 at the basket.
11. Standard drive and kick, nothing special.
12. Duncan running in the open court, picks off Gooden, TP now knows he has Hughes 1v1 at the rim, scores.
13. Duncan screen leaves an open jumper for TP against LBJ
14. Good pass I guess? Another play created by a Duncan screen, except this time freeing Manu up.
15. Duncan pick and roll, basic pass, the defense was not going to stop Duncan, another assist for TP.

Do I really need to go on?

Just like the other poster said, you could find MORE stuff to knock on Kawhi if you are going down that road. Just stop