How much of a threat are the Dubs

[ElNono]

Yeah, the Spurs folded like a cheap lawn chair in the WCF's But, I have to ask, did you actually watch the Finals in 2012? The no call on Durant by Lebron in the closing seconds of game 2 completely flipped that series around. With the exception of game 5, all the games were close.

But, we didn't. It was a closely contested 6 game series. The Finals was a gentleman's sweep. No 5 game series is decided in one play. It's ridiculous.

The Spurs, similarly, didn't lose the WCF in one play.

[Hoops Czar]

But, we didn't. It was a closely contested 6 game series. The Finals was a gentleman's sweep. No 5 game series is decided in one play. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, coming into game 3 of the WCF's with a 22 game win streak and getting backdoor swept is folding like a cheap lawn chair. Not much of a difference between a 5 or 6 game series. The Finals was closely contested too and it wasn't decided in one play. However, the NBA Finals in 2012 was under the 2-3-2 format. If OKC takes game two, they're guaranteed a return trip to OKC where they were nearly unbeatable in the postseason. One play CAN turn a series around. Granted, OKC had other opportunities in the series but, you could say the same about any losing team in the history of the NBA. Had "this" or "that" happened, the outcome might have been different.

[Beaverfuzz]

Sorry, I don't speak gibberish. I don't know what this is suppose to mean. If you're trying to say GSW hasn't proven they can win in the postseason, OKC was unproven, inexperienced and owned by the Spurs and couldn't win a big playoff series against a smart savvy veteran laden team in the postseason until they did. See: 2012 Oklahoma City Thunder. You're still stuck in 2013.

3rd in points in the paint
4th offensive efficiency
1st Effective fg%
1st true shooting %
1st in assists
4th assist/turnover ratio
2nd in assists per fg (Atlanta #1)
1st opponents shooting %
1st opp. effective fg%
3rd opp. 3-point fg%
1st opp. true shooting %

All of this with a rookie head coach and an ineffective, injury-plagued big man.


Overrated!

Jesus, pick a stance on GSW and stick with it! I'm not saying that GSW hasn't proven they can win in the post-season. Please download Hooked on Phonics, listen to it, practice it, master it, and then get back with us.

[Beaverfuzz]

OKC also folded like a cheap lawn chair in the Finals... Right now I have the Dubs ceiling at WCF...

The playoffs are all about matchups. There's little you can draw from the regular season outside of who's a good/bad team.

NOOOOOOO, playoffs are all about matchups?

[Beaverfuzz]

Yeah, coming into game 3 of the WCF's with a 22 game win streak and getting backdoor swept is folding like a cheap lawn chair. Not much of a difference between a 5 or 6 game series. The Finals was closely contested too and it wasn't decided in one play. However, the NBA Finals in 2012 was under the 2-3-2 format. If OKC takes game two, they're guaranteed a return trip to OKC where they were nearly unbeatable in the postseason. One play CAN turn a series around. Granted, OKC had other opportunities in the series but, you could say the same about any losing team in the history of the NBA. Had "this" or "that" happened, the outcome might have been different.

You're acting like the 2-3-2 was brand new for that series. Head back to pre-school please, do not pass Go! Do not collect $200.

[ElNono]

Yeah, coming into game 3 of the WCF's with a 22 game win streak and getting backdoor swept is folding like a cheap lawn chair. Not much of a difference between a 5 or 6 game series. The Finals was closely contested too and it wasn't decided in one play. However, the NBA Finals in 2012 was under the 2-3-2 format. If OKC takes game two, they're guaranteed a return trip to OKC where they were nearly unbeatable in the postseason. One play CAN turn a series around. Granted, OKC had other opportunities in the series but, you could say the same about any losing team in the history of the NBA. Had "this" or "that" happened, the outcome might have been different.

They lost in 5 games... it was not really compe ive, period. Coulda, shoulda, woulda doesn't work. If the Spurs win game 5 at home in the WCF, maybe they're in the Finals. If Abaka doesn't shoot 12-12, maybe the Spurs are in the Finals, etc. Playing that game is too easy, but makes no sense.

Any of the top 3-4 teams in each conference can beat each other. But, there's certainly some teams more likely than others to win certain series (due to matchups).

I feel, from what I've seen so far, that GSW's ceiling is WCF, simply because I have 3 other teams that can realistically reach that stage: Spurs, OKC and Memphis. And I think any of those 3 can beat the Dubs. I could be wrong.

[pgardn]

GS has one home loss?

Wonder who beat them?

[itzsoweezee]

They're playing historically well and have a stacked lineup. I don't know how anyone could consider them anything other than a serious threat.

[Hoops Czar]

Jesus, pick a stance on GSW and stick with it! I'm not saying that GSW hasn't proven they can win in the post-season. Please download Hooked on Phonics, listen to it, practice it, master it, and then get back with us.

I don't need hooked on phonic, I need algebraic code. You've quoted me three times and I still don't know what you're talking about. The NBA isn't a round robin tournament. Thanks for sharing. You're the one calling GS overrated which every statistical measure proves otherwise, and that's your reply? They'll be overrated when they flame out in the playoffs but, using a mark Jackson coached 2013
squad with it's best player playing on a bum ankle and comparing it to this year's squad is pretty absurd.

[apalisoc_9]

GSW is not overrated but they are not beating the spurs..

Thank God Hoops thinks highly of them..that's a good sign.

Hoops czar has never made a right prediction in his whole Spurtalk career....so really good sign.

[ElNono]

They're absolutely better than last season. There's no way they could've sniffed the WCF last season.

[pgardn]

They're playing historically well and have a stacked lineup. I don't know how anyone could consider them anything other than a serious threat.

What is a serious threat?

Vegas future odds 9/2... the favorite.
No way I take that.
Dallas 12-1
Memphis 12-1

Spurs now at 13/2 took a rise with the return of Leonard methinks.

To win the west.

[Hoops Czar]

They lost in 5 games... it was not really compe ive, period. Coulda, shoulda, woulda doesn't work. If the Spurs win game 5 at home in the WCF, maybe they're in the Finals. If Abaka doesn't shoot 12-12, maybe the Spurs are in the Finals, etc. Playing that game is too easy, but makes no sense.

Any of the top 3-4 teams in each conference can beat each other. But, there's certainly some teams more likely than others to win certain series (due to matchups).

I feel, from what I've seen so far, that GSW's ceiling is WCF, simply because I have 3 other teams that can realistically reach that stage: Spurs, OKC and Memphis. And I think any of those 3 can beat the Dubs. I could be wrong.

So, you didn't watch the series.

Game 1: W by 11
Game 2: L by 4
Game 3: L by 6
Game 4: L by 6

There are posters here who thought the 2008 WCF's was compe ive too. Do you want to break it to them?


Well, a clear foul is a clear foul, not called. Allowing a guy to shoot 11-11 because your failed defensive philosophy is to let Ibaka shoot wide open jump shots isn't. However, that's not my point. I was merely showing the compe iveness of the series. I'm reserving final judgement on GS when the playoffs arrive. However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated. Even if GS reaches the WCF's, that's still pretty impressive with a first year head coach.

[Hoops Czar]

GSW is not overrated but they are not beating the spurs..

Thank God Hoops thinks highly of them..that's a good sign.

Hoops czar has never made a right prediction in his whole Spurtalk career....so really good sign.

You said it! Did you know I was just going to come here to post the same thing and you beat me to it. Damn, you're fast.

[Beaverfuzz]

The NBA isn't a round robin tournament.

The regular season is, the post-season most definitely is not. Back to the kiddie pool Czar, you need your floaties.

[Beaverfuzz]

I'm reserving final judgement on GS when the playoffs arrive.

So why are you whining like a little girl when someone disagrees with you, you Nancy?

[Hoops Czar]

The regular season is, the post-season most definitely is not. Back to the kiddie pool Czar, you need your floaties.

The regular season isn't a tournament at all. That's four times you replied to me and I still have no idea what you're talking about.

[ElNono]

So, you didn't watch the series.

Game 1: W by 11
Game 2: L by 4
Game 3: L by 6
Game 4: L by 6

There are posters here who thought the 2008 WCF's was compe ive too. Do you want to break it to them?

I watched the series. It wasn't compe ive. Harden the bed. Abaka was poor aswell. Bad matchup, it happens.

Well, a clear foul is a clear foul, not called. Allowing a guy to shoot 11-11 because your failed defensive philosophy is to let Ibaka shoot wide open jump shots isn't. However, that's not my point. I was merely showing the compe iveness of the series. I'm reserving final judgement on GS when the playoffs arrive. However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated. Even if GS reaches the WCF's, that's still pretty impressive with a first year head coach.

Well, we all are. I'm speaking at this point in time with what I've seen so far, and considering the scenario that I think it's more likely (that they'll face the Spurs/OKC/Memphis). Any/all of that could change.

And I could certainly be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

I mean, Atlanta has a great record too, and that includes a lot of wins against West opponents. Are they a serious treat too? I don't think they are, tbh...

[Hoops Czar]

So why are you whining like a little girl when someone disagrees with you, you Nancy?

"However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated."

[ViceCity86]

Can they beat the Thunder in 1st round?

Likely matchup

[ducks]

Tp

[Hoops Czar]

I watched the series. It wasn't compe ive. Harden the bed. Abaka was poor aswell. Bad matchup, it happens.

I watched the Spurs (particularly Parker) the bed vs OKC in the latter half of the series, particularly the all important, must win game 5.. Lebron the bed in 2010 vs the Mavs but, the series was still compe ive. You and I have a different interpretation of the word compe ive. If (cliche disclaimer engaged) Harden doesn't the bed, OKC probably wins.

Well, we all are. I'm speaking at this point in time with what I've seen so far, and considering the scenario that I think it's more likely (that they'll face the Spurs/OKC/Memphis). Any/all of that could change.

And I could certainly be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

I mean, Atlanta has a great record too, and that includes a lot of wins against West opponents. Are they a serious treat too? I don't think they are, tbh...

Oh, come on Nono, don't be so modest. Speaking of Atlanta, they are playing in a historically weak EC. They're one of three team that could easily come out of the East but, they wouldn't stand much of a chance in a seven games series vs west opponents. Their defense would be good enough to keep them in games but, the offense isn't good enough for them to win many games. Got to admire the job coach Bud has done this year. They are massively overachieving.

[ElNono]

I watched the Spurs (particularly Parker) the bed vs OKC in the latter half of the series, particularly the all important, must win game 5.. Lebron the bed in 2010 vs the Mavs but, the series was still compe ive. You and I have a different interpretation of the word compe ive. If (cliche disclaimer engaged) Harden doesn't the bed, OKC probably wins.

I think over a 7 game series, the best team almost always wins (the only time I would make an exception would be the 2013 Finals, which was way, way too close for comfort). It applies when the Spurs have lost series too. I think in that series, Harden screwed up but Miami also did what they needed to do to slow him down.

Oh, come on Nono, don't be so modest. Speaking of Atlanta, they are playing in a historically weak EC. They're one of three team that could easily come out of the East but, they wouldn't stand much of a chance in a seven games series vs west opponents. Their defense would be good enough to keep them in games but, the offense isn't good enough for them to win many games. Got to admire the job coach Bud has done this year. They are massively overachieving.

IIRC, they're like 14-2 against the West overall, and without looking, I suspect they have a pretty good record against the West playoff teams. But I agree they probably have no shot against the likely teams that could come out of the West (except maybe Memphis).

[Beaverfuzz]

The regular season isn't a tournament at all. That's four times you replied to me and I still have no idea what you're talking about.

It's not a tournament? It's just for s and giggles?

[Beaverfuzz]

"However, a team, playing in a stacked WC starts off 33-6 and leads in most of the important offensive and defensive categories is hardly overrated even if they fall short in the playoffs. There can only be one winner. That doesn't make the rest of the league overrated."

So the Spurs who lost to Memphis in the first round (1/8) were one of the best teams ever?