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lol meltdowns
lol mad
lol "end of discussion"
FkLA trying to become an authority figure on this forum, since it's obvious that he still has to do all the chores around his house when his parents tell him to.
OK CHALLENGE TIME
If Parker is not the best Point guard spin me some fan fiction about how the spurs could have traded for or otherwise acquired someone obviously better. Ignore 2003 and 2015 seasons.
I'm just amazed that a guy we scouted, drafted, developed, and coached hard by MF POP, could be this dumb anti baskeball double agent that lives in FKLA's (and others) mind.
lol meltdowns
lol mad
lol "end of discussion"
FkLA trying to become an authority figure on this forum, since it's obvious that he still has to do all the chores around his house when his parents tell him to.
Because he is evil .
Parker haters
Tony Parker doesn't look anything like Enrique Iglesias tbh
Tony was 28th. That's 15 spots lower than Kobe. That means if Kobe was two spots worse at 15th, the difference between him and Tony would have been the same difference between him and the 1st overall.
People who understand the game of basketball already understand these things. You're a player fan, you only understand stats and equate better stats with better player.So 3 additional rings aren't enough to catapult someone over the superior talent but 4 and a FMVP are? Do Bosh's two catapult him over zeros like Barkley and Malone? What's the cut-off? Is age taken into consideration for this? Who makes the rules for this...you?
You're talking about stats again. When you talk about who's a better player, you talk about what they've done, not what you think they might be able to do. CP0 has done nothing. Russell Westbrook has done nothing. Stat watchers are always putting stat s above other players. Stat s know this which is why there's a market for stat s. You probably have a fantasy team.It also seemed to be a consensus that CP3 was the best PG in the league during his prime (and Tony's). Tony was never held in the same regard that Westbrook is currently held either. So what's your point exactly?
Your argument is about Westbrook's metrics vs Tony's metrics. What point guard in the league has won a Finals MVP? The Lakers had Fisher but he was never a focus of the offense. Teams had to plan for Tony, he would murder them otherwise. Tony also knows how to close out games without chucking his team out of it. That last part is pretty important, it's something neither Russ nor Chris seem to have going for them. Both have a knack for being too heroic late in games instead of playing team ball to ensure a win. Both have been in the position to get over the hump, multiple times, and both have the bed multiple times.Well, that's what your argument consists of. Westbrook can have his metric$, Tony will take the 4 rings and FMVP...remember?
But metrics... stats... my fantasy team!
Short bus. They ride it for a reason
"When the other half of your team is gone" (one guy)
What have they won?The Spurs don't win primarily bc of individual talent, the Thunder do.
Odd that both were in last season and they lost, and guess who was injured? Neither of the two "halves" of a 5 man team That UTSA math is a mother er.The Spurs run a well-oiled, one for all system...when one guys strays away from that it's pretty disgusting. It's a little different than the situation in OKC, two guys make up their 'system' and one of them is out.
Simpleton... your best shooter should take the most shots. In OKC's case, KD is not only the best shooter, but he's the 2nd best player on the planet. You don't want your PG taking shots away from your monster scoring machine just so your PG can get his. It matters who has the ball in their hands in crunch time. I'll take KD over Russ.KD is a better player? Not sure what that has to do with number of FGAs. KD shot a lot during his run too, moreso than he would've if Russ was there. Your FGAs will increase when the other half of your 'system' is gone.
You still haven't made any ing sense. You're reaching for a limb but you're way over the cliff on this.Why am I even having to explain this for like a third time? Are you that stupid or just trolling?
btw... Tony Parker's personal stats have suffered because of his unselfishness and want to stay in SA and play with Tim and Manu, be coached by Pop and play within this system.
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FKLA probably thinks Brandon Jennings is a better PG than Parker.
4 rings, 1 Finals MVP, and arguably the greatest PG winner of the last 25 years.
Didn't the Spurs look for Jason Kidd to replace Parker at one point or another?
Ultimately, the whole "best" thing is apparently no longer a barometer of anything. Westbrook is miles away the best PG in the league right now, but if you read here on ST he's the ultimate team cancer and loser...
Yeah, I know the difference between 13 and 28. Thanks for breaking it up though, couldn't have done it without you dropping that knowledge on me.Tony was 28th. That's 15 spots lower than Kobe. That means if Kobe was two spots worse at 15th, the difference between him and Tony would have been the same difference between him and the 1st overall.
I'm not comparing them to each other. Simply looking at how some re ed fans like you use their to rings elevate one and not the other depending on what uniform they were.
Please enlighten me, Mr. I understand the game of basketball. What's the cut-off point? Who makes that rule?People who understand the game of basketball already understand these things. You're a player fan, you only understand stats and equate better stats with better player.
I'm not talking about stats, idiot. I'm talking about perception just like you were with LBJ-Kobe. CP3 was always considered the best PG in the league. The fact that he was a true #1 and didn't win anything doesn't change that. Tony wouldn't have won as a true #1 either.You're talking about stats again. When you talk about who's a better player, you talk about what they've done, not what you think they might be able to do. CP0 has done nothing. Russell Westbrook has done nothing. Stat watchers are always putting stat s above other players. Stat s know this which is why there's a market for stat s. You probably have a fantasy team.
Ah shut the up with that FMVP. It's not like he was the best player on the team that year. He won it bc he exploited an easy match-up. Good for him but it doesn't magically make him a better player than he really is. Manu's '05 Finals were much more impressive against stiffer compe ion and he has no FMVP trophy to show for it.Your argument is about Westbrook's metrics vs Tony's metrics. What point guard in the league has won a Finals MVP? The Lakers had Fisher but he was never a focus of the offense. Teams had to plan for Tony, he would murder them otherwise. Tony also knows how to close out games without chucking his team out of it. That last part is pretty important, it's something neither Russ nor Chris seem to have going for them. Both have a knack for being too heroic late in games instead of playing team ball to ensure a win. Both have been in the position to get over the hump, multiple times, and both have the bed multiple times.
But metrics... stats... my fantasy team!
Actually, I used the word system in quotation marks. Iso KD, Iso Russ that's Brook's idea of a system. When one is out, then yeah the other half will have a higher usage rate. But I get it, you had to fabricate something to take a shot at UTSA...telltale sign that your argument is .
"When the other half of your team is gone" (one guy)
What have they won?
Odd that both were in last season and they lost, and guess who was injured? Neither of the two "halves" of a 5 man team That UTSA math is a mother er.
Pretty sure I've said KD is the better scorer, closer and better player in general. Does that diminish Russ' greatness?Simpleton... your best shooter should take the most shots. In OKC's case, KD is not only the best shooter, but he's the 2nd best player on the planet. You don't want your PG taking shots away from your monster scoring machine just so your PG can get his. It matters who has the ball in their hands in crunch time. I'll take KD over Russ.
You still haven't made any ing sense. You're reaching for a limb but you're way over the cliff on this.
Well you're all over the place, idiot. The argument goes from how Russ stats are empty during his run bc he 'shoots' too much to how now he's taking shots away from KD. In and of itself it's a valid point...KD should get more shots but that wasn't even the subject at hand. He's injured right now.
My bad. You can read that as "replace him as the starting PG". Agree?
Guess what? He's your point guard whether you like it or not. Turn off the tv if you don't like him. Go ahead and follow westbrook, Paul, curry, or ( insert perfect point guard) Tony parker is the guard of this team. That is not changing this season or anytime soon. Man the up and appreciate the TEAM.
Or take a leave of absence...
Yup a permanent one. I should know better not to let trolls get to me, but man parker hate crew is just annoying. It's not even cool. And some people want to try and fit in and egg them on.
Hopefully Tony turned a corner, then I think it will just go away like most played out schticks.
on the bright side, we're less than a month away from SPAM
Except that several members of Spurstalk have outed themselves as having a sub-80 IQ in the process. If Tony ting the bed in meaningless regular season games is all it took to bring them out of hiding, then it might have been worth it to make this site enjoyable again.
bc parker sucks..
Is the site lagging for anybody else? These past 2 days everything is loading soooo slow, I don't think it's my computer
Nah it's not your computer. It was having problems loading earlier.
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