Gallup Refuses To Run Poll Asking Americans If Bush Should Be Impeached

[Trainwreck2100]

so what good is having a President like this? He shifts blame for everything!
he shifts blame for the 2000 crash,he shifts blame for 09/11,he shifts blame for the increasing gas prices,he shifts blame for his lack of leadership in EVERYTHING!

As I have said before,it's better not to have anyone in the OVAL office.
The US Government is on freaking cruise control! No sail for this boat!

Shifting blame gives you plausable deniability, it's an easy tactic. He was lied to so that lead him to lie to us. The election was the opportunity to get rid of Bush even with all the stuff he did, he was voted in because the Demos threw out a crappy canidate. Even if he does somehow get impeached, it would be cheney as pres anyway.

[mouse]

It's not. But lying under oath is.

Then Bush lied when he said he would protect and serve Americans.

[MiNuS]

Shifting blame gives you plausable deniability, it's an easy tactic. He was lied to so that lead him to lie to us. The election was the opportunity to get rid of Bush even with all the stuff he did, he was voted in because the Demos threw out a crappy canidate. Even if he does somehow get impeached, it would be cheney as pres anyway.

I agree.The Democrats threw a "stick" for candidate and of bunch of yahoos. The American people are really getting robbed in these presidential elections!

[Trainwreck2100]

Then Bush lied when he said he would protect and serve Americans.

See, that's a broad term though, he easily protecting and serving himself and his family, they are Americans, so technically he is protecting and serving Americans.

[Useruser666]

Since when is a blow-job, or any "sexual relatons", between consulting adults a "criminal offense"?

Personally, I never cared about the sexual relations aspect of what was going on. The only thing that bothered me about that, was it reflected poorly upon Clinton's sense of judgment at the time. It cast doubt for me on how someone could do something so stupid at the same time they are running the country.

The legal issues of lying under oath are what instigated legal and impeachment issues comming to light. If he would have just told the truth in the first place it would have taken all the air out of his critic that were calling for his head in an instant. All that would have been left were the moral issues.

Now it's easy to say Bush lied about the WMD. Maybe he did. But do you have any proof? Has he come out on TV and said he lied about that? No? I tend to think that WMD issue was just one of many reasons for the war. Going there doesn't stand on that issue alone, atleast for me. Even if the threat was exaggerated or intelligence was faulty, I still do not count that as irrefutable evidence of lying. But coming out on TV, giving a speech, and telling the american people that you lied to them, that's proof.

[Trainwreck2100]

Personally, I never cared about the sexual relations aspect of what was going on. The only thing that bothered me about that, was it reflected poorly upon Clinton's sense of judgment at the time. It cast doubt for me on how someone could do something so stupid at the same time they are running the country.

I don't know what the Clinton was thinking, I'd lie too if I had relations with a whale like Monica.

[cecil collins]

Now it's easy to say Bush lied about the WMD. Maybe he did. But do you have any proof? Has he come out on TV and said he lied about that? No? I tend to think that WMD issue was just one of many reasons for the war. Going there doesn't stand on that issue alone, atleast for me. Even if the threat was exaggerated or intelligence was faulty, I still do not count that as irrefutable evidence of lying. But coming out on TV, giving a speech, and telling the american people that you lied to them, that's proof.

That's a high in' standard to be able to call someone a liar. Do we have proof that Saddam Hussein is not the new coming of Jesus. I have never heard him say that he was not Jesus, so he may be Jesus. You'll never get that kind of proof, but it's a nice security blanket for the powers that be.

[Nbadan]

That's a high in' standard to be able to call someone a liar. Do we have proof that Saddam Hussein is not the new coming of Jesus. I have never heard him say that he was not Jesus, so he may be Jesus. You'll never get that kind of proof, but it's a nice security blanket for the powers that be.

Nice, but some Republicans and critical thinking don't mix well. It's much easier for them to just shift responsibility to the CIA, or some other agency that can't publicly defend itself, and then when a ex-CIA official dares to speak out and contradict the 'new and improved' official story, they call him a liberal traitor.

[jochhejaam]

Nice, but some Republicans and critical thinking don't mix well. It's much easier for them to just shift responsibility to the CIA, or some other agency that can't publicly defend itself,

Dan, you wouldn't know critical thinking if it bit you in the butt.
Don't confuse being an insatiable critic with critical thinking.

and then when a ex-CIA official dares to speak out and contradict the 'new and improved' official story, they call him a liberal traitor.

Which may very well be the case.

[jochhejaam]

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Originally Posted by Useruser666
Now it's easy to say Bush lied about the WMD. Maybe he did. But do you have any proof?

That's a high in' standard to be able to call someone a liar.

An accusation of that magnitude had better carry a high burden of proof!

There certainly has to be a lot more than "oh, he knew".

[cecil collins]

I guess that's your logic, but it is very convenient for the administration. You are rarely gonna pin down the proof you guys want, so I guess all their misdoings will be excused as an accident.