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  1. #51
    Sleeping With The Original Axis of Evil hussker's Avatar
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    First mistake in any business is to make it UNCONDITIONAL which means under ANY CONDITION. Not a smart business move, especially when dealing with huge business franchises. Remember, as much as we may be sports fans, the business aspect could not care less. Have to agree with that one.

  2. #52
    I highly doubt Austin would support a San Antonio team.

    The problem with San Antonio getting an NFL team is that the city will have to give away practically the farm to lure a franchise here, a huge financial committment that currently San Antonio does not have. Plus, San Antonio has done little to attract the NFL's attention.

    Forget fan support and tickets sold, cause if those two were the only factors in having an NFL team, then the Raiders would have never left Oakland, the Colts would still be in Baltimore and the Browns would have never left Cleveland.

    What I would like to know is what has the city of San Antonio has done to get the NFLs attention?

    Fan support for past preseason games? Fan support for previous S.A. football teams? Is there anything in our favor that we can present to the NFL based on fact and not theory?

    I would leave the Cowboys out of this argument cause generally the Cowboys have a huge following in the U.S.

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    I highly doubt Austin would support a San Antonio team.

    The problem with San Antonio getting an NFL team is that the city will have to give away practically the farm to lure a franchise here, a huge financial committment that currently San Antonio does not have. Plus, San Antonio has done little to attract the NFL's attention.

    Forget fan support and tickets sold, cause if those two were the only factors in having an NFL team, then the Raiders would have never left Oakland, the Colts would still be in Baltimore and the Browns would have never left Cleveland.

    What I would like to know is what has the city of San Antonio has done to get the NFLs attention?

    Fan support for past preseason games? Fan support for previous S.A. football teams? Is there anything in our favor that we can present to the NFL based on fact and not theory?

    I would leave the Cowboys out of this argument cause generally the Cowboys have a huge following in the U.S.
    Thanks...perhaps I was not verbose enough!

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    And as I recall, the Spurs screwed us out of the Los Angeles Rams because San Antonio was Georgia Frontiere's first choice to move to, but Red wouldn't give up concessions and parking revenues, so they went to St. Louise instead.

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    And as I recall, the Spurs screwed us out of the Los Angeles Rams because San Antonio was Georgia Frontiere's first choice to move to, but Red wouldn't give up concessions and parking revenues, so they went to St. Louise instead.
    Seriously. WTF!

    Also, a SA NFL team would draw from Corpus and the RGV.

  6. #56
    And as I recall, the Spurs screwed us out of the Los Angeles Rams because San Antonio was Georgia Frontiere's first choice to move to, but Red wouldn't give up concessions and parking revenues, so they went to St. Louise instead.
    Now the concession deal with McCombs probably screwed S.A. out of a possible NFL expansion (we were chosen over Jacksonville!) but talks about moving the Rams to San Antonio were not serious.

    St. Louis is a higher TV market, a finalist in the NFL expansion, and fought harder than San Antonio to land a team.

    I'd like to know where it states that San Antonio was first choice cause in the mid-90s four teams relocated and none chose San Antonio and it's ready-built stadium.

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    Which would take us back to the owner situation. I read somewhere that Ms Frontiere loved SA and wanted to move here.

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    Which would take us back to the owner situation. I read somewhere that Ms Frontiere loved SA and wanted to move here.
    Well, for all we know she may have wanted to live in the city or using us as a bargaining chip but I do remember an article on the Rams-San Antonio and nothing was serious. Had talks been serious, there definitely would have been a firestorm but St. Louis pretty much had it locked.

    You also have to remember that any mention of San Antonio and the NFL is almost reported with some sort of glee. I remember KSAT going giddy when supposively Seahawks reps were taking a look at the Alamodome.

    If people love the idea of San Antonio and the NFL, I haven't heard it.

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    Why in the wouldn't Austin support an SA team? San Marcos and NB, too. NFL football would be an hour's drive away.

  10. #60
    Why in the wouldn't Austin support an SA team? San Marcos and NB, too. NFL football would be an hour's drive away.
    For Austin, it would be the Longhorns first before supporting San Antonio.

    But I'm still trying to figure out, what has San Antonio done to get the NFLs attention?

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    SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- The New Orleans Saints said Sunday they are considering three options where to play their home games this season: LSU's Tiger Stadium, the Alamodome in San Antonio or at the stadiums of all their opponents.

    Speaking at a news conference in San Antonio, where the team has moved its day-to-day operations after the Superdome and most of New Orleans was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina, general manager Mickey Loomis and coach Jim Haslett made it clear that going to Baton Rouge, La., is their first choice. They said that being a permanent road team was the last option.

    ``We want to play in the Superdome, but obviously that's not possible,'' Loomis said. ``We would like to play our games in Baton Rouge. Obviously, the league has a lot of say. They'll be involved in the decision. We're trying to explore every possibility.''

    The Saints open Sunday at Carolina. Their second game, which was supposed to be their home opener, already has been moved to Giants Stadium, home of their foe, the New York Giants, but the date has not been announced.

    They play at Minnesota the next week, so the first game still in flux is Oct. 2 against Buffalo.

    Haslett said NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue ``put us behind the eight ball'' with the decision to play at the Meadowlands in Week 2.

    He called LSU the first option because, ``I would like our fans to have the opportunity to see us play.''

    Club officials and players are living in a hotel across the interstate from the Alamodome and will be practicing at high school fields in the area.
    Isn't this what they have been saying so far. The way they were playing up on news promos I thought had decided on the Alamodome.

    For some reason I have a feeling Jerry Jones is influencing the decision so his fan base will still exist. I think the NFL just hates San Antonio.

    For Austin, it would be the Longhorns first before supporting San Antonio.
    And Baton Rouge would be LSU Tigers first plus it is a much smaller market.
    Why then does Houston back the Texas when they have Rice, Houston Cpugars, etc.

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    Reports this morning on ESPN radio are Benson is just not thinking of playing some games this year in SA but SERIOUSLY moving the team to SA for GOOD

    I found this...

    New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson is leaning strongly toward moving the Saints permanently to San Antonio following the devastation to the city and the Superdome by Hurricane Katrina, a state senator who has spoken with a top team official said Saturday. Sen. Mike Michot, R-Lafayette, said he spoke with Saints’ chief of administration Arnold Fielkow by phone Friday morning about Benson’s potential plans.

    Team officials could not be reached Saturday. The team had previously announced it was looking for a new home for the current season, and San Antonio was one of the options.

    Michot said he was told that Benson has not made a final decision, but the owner is serious about moving once and for all to San Antonio. “We may lose them permanently,” Michot said.
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    http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakin...09.html#076625

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    LSU might be a small market NOW. but alot of people from NO will be moving to batin rouge , suddenly it could become the hugest city in LA

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    alot of people from NO will be moving to batin rouge
    Well, alot are moving here too....

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    I'd rather have no NFL team then a team thats gonna bring shame like the sAints. Their fans wear bags over their heads for a reason...

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    I'd rather have no NFL team then a team thats gonna bring shame like the sAints. Their fans wear bags over their heads for a reason...
    That is a long time ago......you do relize that since Benson bought the team they have been competetive and have even been in the playoffs.

    Maybe you need a bag over you head.

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    Well, alot are moving here too....
    Yes....either way San Antonio is about 4x the size of Baton Rouge.
    And if you include Austin.....there will be fans from Austin too....which makes even that much more attractive than Baton Rouge

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    It kind of remains to be seen if Austin could really be included. It certainly helps that home games are only once a week. We'll have to see what kind of corporate money would be rolling in from Austin if the Saints play here this season.

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    People drive in from Austin to go to Silver Stars games and some of you guys don't think they'd go to NFL football?

    Please.

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    I do think fans will go -- I'm thinking more of the corporations, which would be a lynchpin for keeping a team here long-term. If Benson can get suite purchases and sponsorships from the likes of Dell, Samsung, AMD, Freescale, et.al., the NFL could work here.

    I think if the team later decides the dome isn't suitable, they'll be looking for a new home somewhere further up I-35N to better facilitate this.

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    WTF you mean there are people that actual go to silver star games LMAO

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    If the Saints "want" or "need" upgrades to the Dome, I'm sure the city would vote YES in a heartbeat.

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    If the Saints "want" or "need" upgrades to the Dome, I'm sure the city would vote YES in a heartbeat.
    Sure, but most likely the voters would have to approve.

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    Sure, but most likely the voters would have to approve.
    That's what I'm saying. The city (people) would vote yes in a heartbeat.

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    Don't forget Laredo and Corpus. And the Valley is crawling with Spurs Fans...I'm sure plenty of them would make the 4 hour drive to SA for NFL games like many San Antonians make the 4 hour drive to Dallas for the Cowboys.

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