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    Imagine if the Clips beat us, face the Rockets in the 2nd round, and both coaches employ the "hack" strategy liberally. It'd be 4 hours of a bad free throw shooting contest for six or seven games. Silver would have a heart attack

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    Shut it down... the race for 2015 Defensive Poster of the Year is over. This got gets butthurt about pretty much everything.
    It's butthurt to think someone is unfunny? Ok

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    Hack a Jordan should be utilized from the start until Doc pulls him.

    Excellent tactic to make the Clippers lose rhythm

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    I totally do not get the opposition to this strategy.

    It apparently is taken as a given this occurs because of the coach who orders it, not the coach who orders the gorilla on the floor who can't perform a basketball basic therebye GIFTING the opposition a weapon.

    You want shorter games...
    Take away the fouling at the end of games allowing for a 3 for 2 trade off "catch up tactic " as well.
    5 personal fouls and your out. I'm sure the league can think of many others...
    Last edited by pgardn; 04-17-2015 at 02:16 PM.

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    I'm not quite sure how low a FT% needs to be for the Hack-a-Shaq strategy to be effective, especially once you factor in things like flow, crowd energy, and improved FT shooting from frequency. For what it's worth, Jordan shot 39% at the line this year. In comparison, Shaquille O'Neal had a career FT% of 53%, while his absolute worst season was 42%. Until Jordan proves he can handle the pressure and develop some FT shooting rhythm, I would think it's worth the risk.

    The other element to consider is Tiago's questionable health. If he's not quite right (and we can't guard Blake Griffin), we might as well hack during the first couple games in LA to undermine their offense as much as possible.

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    The more you foul (ad infinitum), the less clippers have to work on offense (less tired), the less they have to use their apalling bench.
    The hack a Jordan will take the air out of the Clips high flying offense by not letting them into the air. Boring but serviceable.

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    Nuggets did hack a Jordan in their recent Clippers matchup and Jordan's stroke at the FT line actually looked pretty good.
    and yet he still went 4-10 from the line.

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    Why would you not hack Jordan? And taking this out of the game, I didn't anyone in the national media crying for Splitter in the 2012 WCF or Bowen in the 2003 WCF.
    This

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    The hack a Jordan will take the air out of the Clips high flying offense by not letting them into the air. Boring but serviceable.
    Takes the crowd out, too

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    From everything I've ever heard about jordan he just can't hit them in games and is actually fairly competent at them in practice. Just mentally weak.

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    From everything I've ever heard about jordan he just can't hit them in games and is actually fairly competent at them in practice. Just mentally weak.
    Then it is the coaches duty to get him off the floor.
    You can't make a 3 foot putt, get off the PGA tour.
    FT shooting is a part of the game.

    Dont need a rule change, simple.

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    I think Adam Silver will take a serious look at the hack-a-player strategy and do something about it in the next year or two. It's not good for the game, and no one enjoys watching it. I'm a Pop fan and a San Antonio fan, and it still makes me cringe when it's used. I think at some point the league is just gonna say that if a foul is clearly intentional, then it should be called an intentional foul, which would eliminate the effectiveness of the strategy. What could be more "intentional" than a foul away from the ball on a player who's 20 feet behind the play? Just call it what it actually is, and that would put an end to it.
    Going to be looked at and going to be nothing really done about it.

    Hit your free throws at 60% clip and no team will implement the strategy. Its the NBA, making a ing free throw at some decent rate should be tantamont to being an NBA player.

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    Going to be looked at and going to be nothing really done about it.

    Hit your free throws at 60% clip and no team will implement the strategy. Its the NBA, making a ing free throw at some decent rate should be tantamont to being an NBA player.
    We'll see...

    I recently re-watched one of the ESPN 30 for 30 do entaries-- the one about the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons, and my thought was that I'm really glad the NBA doesn't allow that kind of play anymore. Laimbeer and Mahorn were genuinely dirty players who really weren't against intentionally hurting somebody to get them out of a game. Back in the day, some people would say, "well, if you're not tough enough to take hard fouls, then you shouldn't be in the NBA," but I think there's a big difference between a legitimate foul and a clear intention to hurt somebody. It's the NBA, not the NFL. The league is better now that it doesn't allow cheap shots, clotheslines, etc... I understand fouling a poor free throw shooter involved in the play, but fouling someone without the ball who's 50 feet from the basket is just not basketball. Even Pop admits he's doesn't like it, but employs it because he can.

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    We'll see...

    I recently re-watched one of the ESPN 30 for 30 do entaries-- the one about the Bad Boy Detroit Pistons, and my thought was that I'm really glad the NBA doesn't allow that kind of play anymore. Laimbeer and Mahorn were genuinely dirty players who really weren't against intentionally hurting somebody to get them out of a game. Back in the day, some people would say, "well, if you're not tough enough to take hard fouls, then you shouldn't be in the NBA," but I think there's a big difference between a legitimate foul and a clear intention to hurt somebody. It's the NBA, not the NFL. The league is better now that it doesn't allow cheap shots, clotheslines, etc... I understand fouling a poor free throw shooter involved in the play, but fouling someone without the ball who's 50 feet from the basket is just not basketball. Even Pop admits he's doesn't like it, but employs it because he can.
    Pop admits he does not like it because if he stated he thought the strategy was legit if the opposing coach was stupid enough to put a non basketball player on the floor this would totally go against his credo of not criticizing opponents. The Spurs spend so much time on fundamentals I don't believe for a second he really thinks what he has said.

    The truth is if you want a rule change you opt for putting gorillas on the floor instead of basketball players. I'm personally tired of watching athletes who can't play the game.

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    Let's don't forget about Bonner tbh....
    Bonner can shoot a three if necessary, what is Reggie known for?

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    Bonner can shoot a three if necessary, what is Reggie known for?
    Beaverfuzz....my .

    You obviously haven't spent enough time in the Rectory of Reggie Williams.....here you go. You're welcome in advance....

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...eggie+williams

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    We'll hack whom we wish, when we wish.

    I hope we do it the first Clips possession, tbh.

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    Beaverfuzz....my .

    You obviously haven't spent enough time in the Rectory of Reggie Williams.....here you go. You're welcome in advance....

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...eggie+williams
    The Rectum of Reggie Williams? Ok,

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    We'll hack whom we wish, when we wish.

    I hope we do it the first Clips possession, tbh.
    +1

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    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..
    Hack-a-Jordan is going to be essential in this series, tbh..I hope Pop does it all game, every game..

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    what's great about this strategy is the more bs fould the clips get, the closer they get to bonus

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    The Spurs used it extensively against Shaq in smashing Phoenix in the 2008 first round.

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    Puting a heavy flopping team into the bonus just doesn't seem like a great idea to me.

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    So you think letting the Clippers run their offense of 1.1 pts per possession is better than fouling DJ and his .8 pts per 2 FTs huh
    Yeah but at least the Clippers will be tired.

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