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    I actually do believe that he's injured, all jokes, aside, but it was expected..he's a 6" tall, formerly skinny PG that spent a decade playing mostly inside the paint where his body took a ton of abuse..it's similar to what the Heat are experiencing with Wade, he's never going to be healthy again..
    Nice straw-man, but here's my match: Parker's health issues are NOWHERE as severe as Wade's. DWhistle had cartilage removed in college, and has had a knee that is bone on bone for like 3-4 years. That will NEVER heal or get better. Parker's issues have all been soft tissue: hammys, achilles, and assorted bumps and bruises. If he would EVER stop playing for that ing French NT and let himself heal and rest, he could be 90-95% of the 2013 TP9.

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    IIRC, TP looked really solid to begin the year before the hammy injury no?

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    So, he is intentionally not playing up to his abilities? Why? What's your theory on this, Rob?
    He's obviously trying to get Pop to trade Kawhi.

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    And for the third time. If the spurs want free agents they MUST treat their contracts with respect. If we could magically sit Parker and get the 2014 offense back I'll cut his legs off myself.

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    So, he is intentionally not playing up to his abilities? Why? What's your theory on this, Rob?
    Yeah, no. He just sucks. He sucked when he was healthy this season and he sucks now that he's "injured".

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    Kicking him while he's down or not, TP has clearly hurt the Spurs - whether it's injury related (my best guess) or legit decline. Either way, the end result is the same and it's concerning. Hopefully he can find creative ways to contribute and/or Pop can make the proper call on playing him (which is so tough considering Manu's decline and Mills/Cory's shortcomings as players).
    Exactly. What can you do? It's been a bad year and and half for TP. Manu has been terrible lately. Mills (when he not hitting 3's) and Cojo (if he's not guarding a scrub) are barely adequate. I, personally, am rooting for Parker to have a renaissance like Duncan has... I don't understand why a Spurs fan wouldn't want that.

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    The notion was that if no free agents came to SA which is usually the case. Aldridge and Gasol stay put, Monroe goes to New York, etc. I know Wallace isn't even close to being the next best thing, just trying to discuss the pick, since we got Kawhi with 15. I'm not even sure when they pick though, tbh.
    Boston has their own pick & Clippers pick this year. However, they have a ton of picks in 2016+ that they can package.

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    IIRC, TP looked really solid to begin the year before the hammy injury no?
    i thought so, but Roberto says no.

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    Exactly. What can you do? It's been a bad year and and half for TP. Manu has been terrible lately. Mills (when he not hitting 3's) and Cojo (if he's not guarding a scrub) are barely adequate. I, personally, am rooting for Parker to have a renaissance like Duncan has... I don't understand why a Spurs fan wouldn't want that.
    I think they do want that, but they are so upset with his current level of play (their analysis of how bad he's been is correct, kicking him while he's down is not) that it doesn't seem that way. I believe everyone wants him to be better, but he's been so bad this playoffs/year that it seems unlikely.

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    Parker had some decent games but the problem is that he literally doesn't make anyone on the court better. There are stats to back that up.

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    Parker had some decent games but the problem is that he literally doesn't make anyone on the court better. There are stats to back that up.
    That's post-injury. The fact pre-injury that he played really well & that even post-injury the starting lineup was still wildly effective bodes well.

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    That's post-injury. The fact pre-injury that he played really well & that even post-injury the starting lineup was still wildly effective bodes well.
    Sure, the starting lineup played well but not because of Parker.

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    Well, I realize that there is a fair amount of trolling of "homers" happening here and I do have a history of defending Spurs even when they are ty, but I feel bad for TP... as much as I feel can feel bad for a millionaire on my favorite sports team. Keeping things in context for Harlem and whatnot.

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    Sure, the starting lineup played well but not because of Parker.
    It's not about it being because of TP. It's about the fact that in no way did Parker tank the SL. He has in the playoffs, but Danny & Tiago have both been bad too so hard to pin on just TP.

    If TP can get healthy, there is reason to believe he will be ok.

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    Exactly. What can you do? It's been a bad year and and half for TP. Manu has been terrible lately. Mills (when he not hitting 3's) and Cojo (if he's not guarding a scrub) are barely adequate. I, personally, am rooting for Parker to have a renaissance like Duncan has... I don't understand why a Spurs fan wouldn't want that.
    Nobody wants Parker to fail but he's at an age where he should have developed other skills to compensate for his drop off athletically. He doesn't have a strong outside presence which allows defenders to play with a cushion. He hides behind screens because he can't beat guards off dribble that much anymore. He always looks to score first over passing. Parker has to come to terms that he is not the go to right now, the team iden y has changed to sharing the ball while Leonard develops his offensive skills.

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    Sure, we all feel bad about it. It's sad in a way but why would he play better next season? He's only getting older. He still isn't changing his game. Sure, he may say this is Kawhis team but at the end of they day he's taking as many shots as Kawhi per game. (usually)

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    Everybody was saying the same about Duncan a few years ago... just not quite as mean spirited.

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    who the is "celebrating" Parker's demise? The only reason people think the "shtick" was about celebrating Parker's decline is due to the number of threads that were created about him..the abundance of those threads was due to the denial of most of the forum that Parker hasn't been a star since 2013, and is now a terrible player..

    Nobody is celebrating it, why would anybody want to see a player killing their favorite team?
    Certainly seems like (from a non-player fan perspective) a few people are "celebrating" his demise....I very well may be wrong or misinformed. I'm just calling it like I see it. It's got to the point now where people who say ONE nice thing about Parker...are automatically considered to be "Kawhi haters". This is just getting laughable...

    Yes, Harlem.....we all know TP is not or "hasn't been a star since 2013, and is now a terrible player.." We all know. We all watch the games. The only people who argue this fact are Pro Parker " Player Fans". Which there are about 5 of them tbh...

    So....why don't you and your minions create another 10,000 threads to tell us all about how much Parker blows. You might actually convince 2 people who didn't already know this.

    Tony Parker ing sucks.....you've won Harlem. You and the Krew are victorious. Now take the W and act like you've been there before. Let's just knock off the 5 anti-parker threads a day. How about 1 a day? Is that not a fair compromise?

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    Everybody was saying the same about Duncan a few years ago... just not quite as mean spirited.
    Yeah, this is the Parker/Manu stuff back with a vengeance. I can't argue with people who say that Parker is awful right now, because he is. But to be so bitter about it, you'd think he slept with their wives/gfs too.

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    Duncan is a GOAT player. Duncan can adapt. Duncan can evolve. Parker has always played the same.

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    Weird I don't feel bad about Parker. I don't hate him either. I'm a dying human being. We all are. That's something to feel bad about. worrying about a game played by rich athletic dudes.

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    About the actual topic, the rumor I read only says that Boston would be willing to part with one of the firsts that they have stockpiled, not necessarily their own pick this year, which isn't even in the lottery.

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    What's weird, Parker showed his range before the injury. He dud adapt. But then he got more injuries. So robs premise is wrong. Par.

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    Duncan is a GOAT player. Duncan can adapt. Duncan can evolve. Parker has always played the same.
    I'm not putting TP on Duncan's level and they are different players with different skill sets, but everyone was saying Duncan was done a few years ago.

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    Sure, we all feel bad about it. It's sad in a way but why would he play better next season? He's only getting older. He still isn't changing his game. Sure, he may say this is Kawhis team but at the end of they day he's taking as many shots as Kawhi per game. (usually)
    The "elite" level point guards at some point came to a realization that they were not the big ticket and decided to help make there team better. They became facilitators who could read the floor and get the ball to open shooters and take the ball and make something happen when they have to. Parker is still in that score first mode with declining skills that made him good.

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