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    Just reminds me of how great Dave was and how different his legacy would have been had he had a supporting cast to help bear the burden.

    Greatful Tim came along when he did. But, damn... Dave had some of the tiest supporting casts and coaches of any superstar I can remember.
    Blame Red McCombs' leadership group. Never really had any interest in basketball - always wanting to use it to get a football team here. Until Holt came along, no one was willing to pay for talent.

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    Arguing what Parker should have done in '03 to close out that series is mindful of 2013's (or even this year's) Kawhi experience. In 2001 Tony was 20-21 years old, less than two full year's experience in the country, much less the league, and was not a clutch performer.

    Kawhi, in 2013, was only two years into the league, and was not a clutch performer. Folks like FkLA excuse Kawhi for inexperience but repeatedly crucify Parker for a similar performance at the same age.

    But I watched virtually every game that Avery played and he was just horrid. And Avery's "preachiness" so incensed TD that he wouldn't have stayed here if Avery was a coach, or even an intern. Robinson could handle Avery because they were both so religious. Duncan and Pop - not so much. THAT was real team dissension.


    Avery should never have had his number retired here.
    i would also add that point guard is the hardest position to learn, and Tony was coming into the league as an 18 year old with no jump shot. He has worked his way to becoming an all star. I love Kawhi's game as well, so I'm not bashing him, but Parker's work ethic and growth during his career was exceptional. It will be interesting to see if Dante Exum can do the same. He's a similar player to Parker in terms of skill set coming into the league.

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    i would also add that point guard is the hardest position to learn, and Tony was coming into the league as an 18 year old with no jump shot. He has worked his way to becoming an all star. I love Kawhi's game as well, so I'm not bashing him, but Parker's work ethic and growth during his career was exceptional. It will be interesting to see if Dante Exum can do the same. He's a similar player to Parker in terms of skill set coming into the league.


    He never developed a consistent 3 PT shot. Even his 'automatic' midrange shot was always in the high 30s/low 40s percentage. Was an average FT shooter with poor courtvision/passing. All things that take skill and repe ion. The speed and quickness he was simply blessed with. Hard worker my ass, if he had developed other skills he'd have something to fall back on now that his speed is gone.

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    He never developed a consistent 3 PT shot. Even his 'automatic' midrange shot was always in the high 30s/low 40s percentage. Was an average FT shooter with poor courtvision/passing. All things that take skill and repe ion. The speed and quickness he was simply blessed with. Hard worker my ass, if he had developed other skills he'd have something to fall back on now that his speed is gone.
    Never said he was a great three point shooter, but he developed an excellent mid range game and combined it with the pick and roll with Tim and it was a weapon. Of course, I'm not going to bother debating with your revisionist history. Your troll-like hate for Parker erodes any of your objectivity and your prism of of negativity jades your reality. Parker was a raw player when he came into the league as an 18 year old with hyper-drive speed and no midrange or ability to finish. He became one of the highest field goal percentage scorers in the league, including bigs. He worked to become a finisher and threat from midrange. True, he never developed the three, but he didn't need to. His ability to get into the paint made him a play maker. He wasn't a traditional point guard with great court vision, but his drive and kick was just as devastating as Chris Paul's court vision.

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    Yes, Spur fan has felt the love and cruelty of the basketball gods. I will say, though, winning in 2014 was one of the greatest sports/redemption stories of all time. I think it made a lot of people that hated the Spurs become Spur fans.
    It did lol, at bars around here in VA I heard alot of cheers for SA. My friend who did not like them because of me suddenly rooted hard for them two years in a row. They broke up the evil empire and heads loved it. 2014 was special.

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    Naw man that was after, he helped win in 05 and 07 here, hardly the dark 09-11 years of .

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    I hated these mother ers

    Sidney Green

    David Greenwood

    Paul Pressey

    Dwayne the bed tuz (aka the steal of the draft)

    Terry mings....that ty reverse lay up he'd do and miss all the ing time

    Greg sutton

    Tark what a en joke that was!!!!

    dale Ellis

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    Corey Alexander

    Carl Herrera

    Greg anderson

    Charles Smith

    Monty Williams



    what a en list!!!!




    Just reminds me of how great Dave was and how different his legacy would have been had he had a supporting cast to help bear the burden.

    Greatful Tim came along when he did. But, damn... Dave had some of the tiest supporting casts and coaches of any superstar I can remember.

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    Never said he was a great three point shooter, but he developed an excellent mid range game and combined it with the pick and roll with Tim and it was a weapon. Of course, I'm not going to bother debating with your revisionist history. Your troll-like hate for Parker erodes any of your objectivity and your prism of of negativity jades your reality. Parker was a raw player when he came into the league as an 18 year old with hyper-drive speed and no midrange or ability to finish. He became one of the highest field goal percentage scorers in the league, including bigs. He worked to become a finisher and threat from midrange. True, he never developed the three, but he didn't need to. His ability to get into the paint made him a play maker. He wasn't a traditional point guard with great court vision, but his drive and kick was just as devastating as Chris Paul's court vision.
    Best point guard this franchise has ever had. I dread the days when we go back to having a PG like Cory Joseph, Jacque Vaughn or George Hill at the helm.

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    He never developed a consistent 3 PT shot. Even his 'automatic' midrange shot was always in the high 30s/low 40s percentage. Was an average FT shooter with poor courtvision/passing. All things that take skill and repe ion. The speed and quickness he was simply blessed with. Hard worker my ass, if he had developed other skills he'd have something to fall back on now that his speed is gone.
    Parker's increased his 3P% every year for the past 4 years now. He shot frieking 43% this year, including leading the league until he got injured. What the does he have to do, shoot 50% from 3?

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    Never said he was a great three point shooter, but he developed an excellent mid range game and combined it with the pick and roll with Tim and it was a weapon. Of course, I'm not going to bother debating with your revisionist history. Your troll-like hate for Parker erodes any of your objectivity and your prism of of negativity jades your reality. Parker was a raw player when he came into the league as an 18 year old with hyper-drive speed and no midrange or ability to finish. He became one of the highest field goal percentage scorers in the league, including bigs. He worked to become a finisher and threat from midrange. True, he never developed the three, but he didn't need to. His ability to get into the paint made him a play maker. He wasn't a traditional point guard with great court vision, but his drive and kick was just as devastating as Chris Paul's court vision.
    His drive and kick was reliant on his speed, not skill. The only thing he did was learn the playbook to know where the shooters are at. His midrange was always high 30/llow40%...I wouldn't call that excellent. I also wouldn't call someone who doesn't develop his game 'bc he doesn't need to' a hard worker. A hard worker goes above and beyond and if he had he would've had something to fall back on this year.
    Parker's increased his 3P% every year for the past 4 years now. He shot frieking 43% this year, including leading the league until he got injured. What the does he have to do, shoot 50% from 3?
    You're an imbecile. He made like 40 total threes this year. He had a somewhat high percentage bc he's selective not bc he's actually a good shooter. If he was he'd have attempted more and he wouldn't have shot 0% from 3 and like 10% from midrange in the Clippers series.

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    What did AJ average for his career? Like 5 PPG?

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