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    Obviously they've been the dominant team in the NBA this year, but how can anyone call G-State "historically great" when they haven't won the le yet? Do they even have a guy on their roster that has played in the Finals?

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    Yes. The East had teams with losing records make the playoffs dude.

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    Obviously they've been the dominant team in the NBA this year, but how can anyone call G-State "historically great" when they haven't won the le yet? Do they even have a guy on their roster that has played in the Finals?
    Kerr.

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    GS is going to destroy CLE's defense. CLE"s defense has been better than normal, but a lot of that is melting down from ATL. GS will shred an average defense.

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    BTW, a Cavaliers-Warriors Finals with both teams at full strength would be a toss-up at least, imo, and the Cavaliers would have the best player on the floor.

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    Obviously they've been the dominant team in the NBA this year, but how can anyone call G-State "historically great" when they haven't won the le yet? Do they even have a guy on their roster that has played in the Finals?
    LMAO Cavaliers fan. We are going to send you and your bums packing when the time comes.

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    The Finals will be the same as last year, though..limited team vs. historically great team, Warriors win in 5, vanilla, cliche-using fans criticise LeBron for losing with a team that wouldn't have sniffed the Finals if you had replaced him with any other player in the league..
    You always expose yourself with agendas like a total idiot.
    Last year's Heat team was legit. They just got punked by an amazingly better team. Doesn't make them limited, the Heat were steam rolling teams last year.
    Additionally, the finals argument only works with the 2007 Cavs team and the 2015 Cavs teamPERIOD

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    Have Jr Smith and Shumpert not been great for Bron these playoffs?

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    You always expose yourself with agendas like a total idiot.
    Last year's Heat team was legit. They just got punked by an amazingly better team. Doesn't make them limited, the Heat were steam rolling teams last year.
    Additionally, the finals argument only works with the 2007 Cavs team and the 2015 Cavs teamPERIOD
    It was both. A lot of the players that Bron had dragged along for so long just didn't have any juice and weren't playing well outside of moments.

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    Lebron going into the finals 5 straight times and playing in the 2012 olympics.

    Why didn't he suffered the mental fatigue that the Spurs had when Spurs only had a WCF and 2 Finals appearance...

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    Have Jr Smith and Shumpert not been great for Bron these playoffs?
    Great? No. Had some good moments? Yes. It's the Lebron effect. Don't confuse them winning and looking better than they ever have before with some quantum leap in their games. It's Lebron.

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    They were the exact seed they finished as at the allstar break when Bosh shut it down for the season.
    They were 7th at the break.

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    Lebron going into the finals 5 straight times and playing in the 2012 olympics.

    Why didn't he suffered the mental fatigue that the Spurs had when Spurs only had a WCF and 2 Finals appearance...
    LeBron's not fat, lazy, washed-up, or a choke artist like Porker, tbh.

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    Great? No. Had some good moments? Yes. It's the Lebron effect. Don't confuse them winning and looking better than they ever have before with some quantum leap in their games. It's Lebron.
    Thompson has also been fantastic for the Cavs.

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    It was both. A lot of the players that Bron had dragged along for so long just didn't have any juice and weren't playing well outside of moments.
    That argument is legit but it works both ways.

    This Heat roster with a Wade who has sucked since 2007, a Chris Bosh who arguably was never even that good, and aging players....Could LeBron have actually even brought this year's 2015 Heat roster, as it was constructed to the finals? I don't think even he could have done that.

    He moved to a better, fresher roster.
    Yeah the Cavs are injured and falling apart, but so are other teams in the East. The cavs roster as it is, is far superior to the Heat.
    LeBron is underrated for how shrewd he is. He jumped ship at the perfect time. Twice. Within the same teams. THAT is something I never seen. Truth.

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    The argument will always come down to this

    1) Could LeBron do this in the West? Answer clearly no

    2) Has the East compe ion been even worse than it was when Shaq called it the Leastern Conference back in 2003? Yes it has.

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    Thompson has also been fantastic for the Cavs.
    Cavs have some good role players, Thompson and Smith have been great, Shumpert has been pretty good, etc, but when did the standards change for supporting casts? Is it just a LeBron thing?

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    Defiantly the best Cleveland team Bron has been on and with arguably better role players than the Heat le teams.

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    That argument is legit but it works both ways.

    This Heat roster with a Wade who has sucked since 2007, a Chris Bosh who arguably was never even that good, and aging players....Could LeBron have actually even brought this year's 2015 Heat roster, as it was constructed to the finals? I don't think even he could have done that.

    He moved to a better, fresher roster.
    Yeah the Cavs are injured and falling apart, but so are other teams in the East. The cavs roster as it is, is far superior to the Heat.
    LeBron is underrated for how shrewd he is. He jumped ship at the perfect time. Twice. Within the same teams. THAT is something I never seen. Truth.
    This current Cavs roster without Love and Irving is far superior to last year's Heat roster?

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    That argument is legit but it works both ways.

    This Heat roster with a Wade who has sucked since 2007, a Chris Bosh who arguably was never even that good, and aging players....Could LeBron have actually even brought this year's 2015 Heat roster, as it was constructed to the finals? I don't think even he could have done that.

    He moved to a better, fresher roster.
    Yeah the Cavs are injured and falling apart, but so are other teams in the East. The cavs roster as it is, is far superior to the Heat.
    LeBron is underrated for how shrewd he is. He jumped ship at the perfect time. Twice. Within the same teams. THAT is something I never seen. Truth.
    If you mean no Love and hobbled Kyrie vs the Heat with no Bosh, but Dragic, Wade, Deng & Whiteside? I absolutely think Lebron takes the Heat to the finals. 100%

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    Knowing Kerr's mentality, I don't see Golden State shrinking at all. Kerr has been great for them. I see Kidd being similar or the Bucks as he progresses and the team progresses.

    Golden's Offense in comparison to anyone team in the east is beyond reliable. They have a bench and they have major players at each position. I would say the least major player they have is Bogut but they mask it well. The Warriors should be able to put on a clinic.

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    Cavs have some good role players, Thompson and Smith have been great, Shumpert has been pretty good, etc, but when did the standards change for supporting casts? Is it just a LeBron thing?
    It's a Bron thing, Mozgov is probably the best center LeBron has ever had too, lol.

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    Christ, the thought of Friend Killer and beard head ringing is nauseating.

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    Defiantly the best Cleveland team Bron has been on and with arguably better role players than the Heat le teams.
    Wowsa. JR Smith & Shumpert suck. Thompson literally only tries for offensive rebounds and can't shoot, hit a ft or play that good of defense. The role players on the Heat were very solid until the Heat cheaped out and they started breaking down.

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    Cavs have some good role players, Thompson and Smith have been great, Shumpert has been pretty good, etc, but when did the standards change for supporting casts? Is it just a LeBron thing?
    Pre-Lebron all the "good role players" sucked. There is a difference in playing well next to Lebron and being good.

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