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    He is very very slow, so Id doubt he can play the 2. Our best bet is 10-15 spot mins in 3 to give Whi some rest. He has got to develop a reliable 3 pt shot though, if he does that then he'll fit more and maybe cover for the regressing contribution of manu
    The closest player I can think of would be Steven Jackson that could pass. He can't shoot like Jackson though.

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    Stephen Jackson was a career 33% 3-point shooter...I'd hope KA can end up better than that. Jackson was a really solid defender though, whereas KA will be lucky if he ever ends up being an average defender.

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    The closest player I can think of would be Steven Jackson that could pass. He can't shoot like Jackson though.
    Young SJax was atleast athletic tbh. And he drove at will.

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    Stephen Jackson was a career 33% 3-point shooter...I'd hope KA can end up better than that. Jackson was a really solid defender though, whereas KA will be lucky if he ever ends up being an average defender.
    Eh, I think Anderson could be the same type of defender Jackson was. Kyle has the tools to do so, but he lacks the mentality to muddy up the game. He has the length to swallow a player whole in a phonebooth, so if the Spurs can keep him off an island, I think he'll be fine, even at the two.

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    Baby Magic. you heard it here first.

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    I don't think he can learn to be faster. And in this league, I think that is a monster problem.

    The other liability I see is his dribble is too high (or was) - but that is fixable.

    Slowness is the problem, offensively and defensively.

    So - to the question: I don't think it is too early...I just don't see him ever being more than a limited minutes sub. Very limited minutes.

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    I am huge on Kyle Anderson. Plays with great pace, can play four positions, great hands on offense and defense, can make a steal and challenge shots, great passer and decision maker, shows patience on the block and skilled low post moves both facing and back to basket. Anytime you have a player with his height they can put the ball on the floor, make the pass or shoot that puts the defense of its heels. Given enough minutes he can reach double figures in points and still get as many rebounds as assits.
    Dude, I will buy some of what you are on.

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    Tbh, if he can be the Spurs roster rather than Toros, that's a successful season. If Spurs acquire a back up SF, Anderson will not see the light of day. He's a three year project, at a minimum, to get consistent minutes, if he can even get to that level.

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    Too slow, tbh. I doubt he'll ever be a regular rotation player in the NBA.
    Guys like Anderson just seem slow because they're tall and ungainly looking.

    He's makes basketball moves. He's slow like Lamar Odom -- you get points when you get to the rim, not for how you look doing it.

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    i expect something from him too

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    Gervin was slow--but he had a deceptively long stride that could get him to the basket and he could shoot the lights out. Actually, at the time he was a prototype long SG and his extra length helped him on defense so you were willing to give up his speed liabilities on defense.

    But the game has changed. Lots of long SGs with some speed as well. If you thought Bellinelli was a poor defender at SG, wait till the league gets the measure of a slower KA. I haven't heard of a "speed coach" that can teach speed and lateral quickness.

    Lots of folks look at his BBI IQ, and passing, but there are two ends of the court and he'll probably never develop into a shooter whose offense and passing way overbalances his slow movement on defense. It isn't just the fact that he'll get beaten on ISOs or PNRs by speedier players; that liability will breakdown the overall defense as others try to cover for him.

    He's a Spur for now, so I'm in his corner and hope he does better that I foresee.

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    I look doe the Spurs to take advantage of Duncan and LMA defensively by going back to an approach they use to do when they had the twin towers. They would crowd the shooters daring them to go around into the bigs. This often left the shooter with a midrange jump shot that most are not too efficient. While Anderson is not fast enough for a game of one on one, his size is perfect as a perimeter defender in this type of defense.

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    Dude came in with 13.4% body fat. Hoping the Spurs have been working with him diligently to get his body into better shape. Maybe he'll gain some athletic ability,strength, and endurance. I think he can improve in all those areas. I find it promising given the fact that he wasn't in great shape that he played 39.3mpg and still avg 31.1% 3's. If he gets in better shape, plays less mpg, and takes open shots then 3pt% should be a few percentage points higher.

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    Anderson needs to learn to play better defense and develop a reliable outside shot. If he can do those two things this upcoming season, he'll have a solid bench role on this team.

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    Slow players can be successful in the NBA. See Chris Mullin. But you have to be highly skilled. Anderson is no Chris Mullin, but the Spurs do think he can work in their system. If not, they'd get rid of him for the salary cap space. So it's a good sign that they are supporting him, but I would strain to think he would be much of a contributor next season.

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    Kyle Anderson has a got a ton of moves, not only that, he covers a lot of ground in a few steps:


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    His long stride can work to offset his slow foot speed because it throws off the defender's timing and creates separation for his shot. I'm excited to (hopefully) watch him off the bench next season.

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    His long stride can work to offset his slow foot speed because it throws off the defender's timing and creates separation for his shot. I'm excited to (hopefully) watch him off the bench next season.
    He's a different kind of player. It's like a controlled drive where he takes long strides, covers a lot of ground but still surveying opportunities. Hope Spurs may adjustments to his game to make whatever he is doing more effective.

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    Count me among the skeptical. I don't expect him to be a positive contributor, which is not necessarily the same as getting playing time.

    I think he's a bigger Kendall Marshall. Enough skills to play, but so athletically poor that he'll never be a reliable contributor on a contender, because in the playoffs his defense will be abused even more. Marshall has been on 4 teams and waived 4 times. But he had the skills to be a lottery pick, he just couldn't hang athletically. That's Anderson.

    He might be saved the indignity of multiple trades and waives because San Antonio won't have the salary to push around in trades, but he has that bad combination of being slow and lacking hustle. Moving like Mr Burns through jello is one thing, but there were plays in his brief on court time when he sure looked like he was taking defense off or not getting back with the full extent of his limited top speed. Has he gotten over himself enough to recognize that his career is in jeopardy if he doesn't go 100%? He sure seemed en led, going through the whole draft process carrying too much body fat when he know everyone was doubting his speed, talking about how he'll never slip to the spurs, etc.

    Maybe in summer league without having to feature Austin Daye and Jeff Ayres and with a leaner body he'll show proof that he wants to succeed and goes as hard as his body allows. Because if he suffers under the belief that he's so good he doesn't have to lower himself to be a hustle guy every play like so many are forced to be (and caused Green to be cut once), if he thinks that just because he was some big shot at UCLA he deserves the ball in his hands every play like he's Magic, if he isn't willing to do everything at all times then he'll be joining former 2nd round pick Marcus Williams in Europe after being a d-league superstar.

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    Guys like Anderson just seem slow because they're tall and ungainly looking.

    He's makes basketball moves. He's slow like Lamar Odom -- you get points when you get to the rim, not for how you look doing it.
    most do not understand

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    Gervin was slow--but he had a deceptively long stride that could get him to the basket and he could shoot the lights out. Actually, at the time he was a prototype long SG and his extra length helped him on defense so you were willing to give up his speed liabilities on defense.

    But the game has changed. Lots of long SGs with some speed as well. If you thought Bellinelli was a poor defender at SG, wait till the league gets the measure of a slower KA. I haven't heard of a "speed coach" that can teach speed and lateral quickness.

    if teams don't have an athletic trainer to train speed, hire me. looking at tiago they didn't
    Lots of folks look at his BBI IQ, and passing, but there are two ends of the court and he'll probably never develop into a shooter whose offense and passing way overbalances his slow movement on defense. It isn't just the fact that he'll get beaten on ISOs or PNRs by speedier players; that liability will breakdown the overall defense as others try to cover for him.

    He's a Spur for now, so I'm in his corner and hope he does better that I foresee.

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    Count me among the skeptical. I don't expect him to be a positive contributor, which is not necessarily the same as getting playing time.

    I think he's a bigger Kendall Marshall. Enough skills to play, but so athletically poor that he'll never be a reliable contributor on a contender, because in the playoffs his defense will be abused even more. Marshall has been on 4 teams and waived 4 times. But he had the skills to be a lottery pick, he just couldn't hang athletically. That's Anderson.

    He might be saved the indignity of multiple trades and waives because San Antonio won't have the salary to push around in trades, but he has that bad combination of being slow and lacking hustle. Moving like Mr Burns through jello is one thing, but there were plays in his brief on court time when he sure looked like he was taking defense off or not getting back with the full extent of his limited top speed. Has he gotten over himself enough to recognize that his career is in jeopardy if he doesn't go 100%? He sure seemed en led, going through the whole draft process carrying too much body fat when he know everyone was doubting his speed, talking about how he'll never slip to the spurs, etc.

    Maybe in summer league without having to feature Austin Daye and Jeff Ayres and with a leaner body he'll show proof that he wants to succeed and goes as hard as his body allows. Because if he suffers under the belief that he's so good he doesn't have to lower himself to be a hustle guy every play like so many are forced to be (and caused Green to be cut once), if he thinks that just because he was some big shot at UCLA he deserves the ball in his hands every play like he's Magic, if he isn't willing to do everything at all times then he'll be joining former 2nd round pick Marcus Williams in Europe after being a d-league superstar.
    Well-said.

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    Count me among the skeptical. I don't expect him to be a positive contributor, which is not necessarily the same as getting playing time.

    I think he's a bigger Kendall Marshall. Enough skills to play, but so athletically poor that he'll never be a reliable contributor on a contender, because in the playoffs his defense will be abused even more. Marshall has been on 4 teams and waived 4 times. But he had the skills to be a lottery pick, he just couldn't hang athletically. That's Anderson.
    Him being much bigger than him is a significant difference. It opens up the possibility to guard positions other than pg which are extremely quick and skilled. Blocks, rebounding, recovery from behind on defense, shooting over players instead of going by them, his long scoop layups are more difficult to get to, better ability to pass over or around the defense, ect.

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    We'll know a lot after seeing him in summer league. The most logical starting lineup for the Utah would be something like.

    C - Lalanne
    PF - LJC
    SF - Anderson
    SG - Denmon
    PG - Cherry

    with Anderson bringing up the ball a good portion of the time.

    Seems like this is going to be the summer of Anderson. They might run more scoring plays for him than one might expect just to see what he can do.

    Overall, if he can develop one more NBA skill, the guy will stick. Hopefully that skill will be outside shooting.

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    Spursfan are in for a pleasant surprise imo. The dude is really skilled and utilizes his dribble, spins, putting his should into his defender, and length to make up for his slowness.

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