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    Well I'm in the camp that it was mostly injury related and not a decline. He looked much better to start the year before the first injury and then never recovered at all (got worse outside of one late stretch). If it was injury and he's in better shape this year, I think he is a positive player.

    If I'm wrong and it was decline and/or the start of him always being injured, then ya, it will be bad. He's smart enough though to change things up and find a way.

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    The Grizz now have their own version (an older version though) of Leonard and Green to defend Curry and Thompson. Tony Allen and Matt Barnes will make it tougher on those guys to score (then there's also Conley they can put on Curry at times). Same can be said if they play the Thunder, guarding Durant and Westbrook. The Grizz will be one of the best defensive teams in the league again this year on the perimeter.

    Just gives the Spurs an easier road to the Finals if the Grizz and Warriors/Thunder meet up in the 2nd round; Grizz might just do us a favor.

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    ^^ Barnes and Allen are poor offensive players, though(and Barnes is just a slightly above average defender)..the Warriors were guarding Allen with Bogut in the playoffs..

    Having good defensive players that can't play offense doesn't really work in today's league, tbh..

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    Awww nawww naww, Tom ziller up and done it. This guy is talking out of his ass. We need to trout boban out in those tight spandex shorts so when grizz guards drive to the hole their staring at his junk. He will alter more shots that way than trying to go vertical.

    It's the woody harrelson theory but with a gay twist. No urban kid from the u.s. is gonna rub up on a big ugly giants junk. Players will go out of their way to avoid physical contact. Beat that grizz.

    Screw Memphis. Can't go to a playoff game and then cruise down Beale Street after dark without feeling like your going to get shot. Cesspool of a city for the most part. Food is legit though. But once again, I can get good ribs without getting shot so its not worth it.
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    Brandan Wright being worth 6.5 wins backing up their two best players

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    Brandan Wright being worth 6.5 wins backing up their two best players
    It's amazing that so many people still wonder why Brandan Wright only plays like 15 MPG, tbh..there's a reason his role is always relatively limited..

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    Their FO getting hyped up (i assume the Hollinger factor) despite some few misses: going after washed-up Carter; Green trade etc..Still haven't solved their abysmal shooting woes and are a Conley's ankle twist from drifting away in the West standings ..

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    Win shares must be the stat NBA video games use when they accept 10x scrub for superstar trades. There's no true evaluation.

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    It's amazing that so many people still wonder why Brandan Wright only plays like 15 MPG, tbh..there's a reason his role is always relatively limited..
    He's almost like Ed Davis's twin from a different mother.

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    the spurs rating is dragged down by mulitunov and lalanne, neither of whom will likely be on the roster. they combine for -5.4. tack on reggie williams and that's -8.7 from 3 guys who wont be on the roster
    Even Bonner is -2.7, and RC has already said he won't be back next season.

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    "advanced metrics"

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    The real question is did the Grizzlies sign someone that can make a jumpshot?

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    I've never seen a team force-fed into contender status like Memphis (though the Bulls are close). That team's still living off its 2011 upset.
    Totally true, in the 2013 Western Conference Finals (the Spurs swept Memphis) while down 0-3, there were posts all over one of their message boards still arguing that Memphis was marketable better than San Antonio and (pick your alternate reality excuse) was the reason why they were down in the series.

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    not a good article, hmmmmp

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    No.


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    Stop all this advanced stats ... but everybody who thinks we will just sweep the Grizzlies out of the way is crazy as well.
    This is still a very good team ... close games between them and the Spurs are more probable than the Spurs wiping the floor with them.

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    They got kawhislayer tbh. That's something

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    Brandan Wright being worth 6.5 wins backing up their two best players


    The same guy who Carlisle had to bench for Dejuan Blair in 2014

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    The people bashing "advanced metrics" because of Win Shares are being silly, tbh..it's just 1 number that nobody uses as the staple of their argument..

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    Grizzlies

    Don't see the reason for Spurs fans to fear them, even though Tiago is no longer a Spur. Even last year, the Grizzlies barely got by a shorthanded Spurs team twice and were blown out twice when everyone was healthy.

    Grizzlies are good, but they aren't gonna be anything more than a WCF team at best.

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    The CBS Eye On Basketball hipster writers last week on their podcast (Monday or Tuesday show) also didn't like the spurs moves, in fact Matt Moore said the only reason he had the spurs listed among the top 5 "winners" of free agency in his column was because he didn't want to be given a hard time on twitter. But admitted that if not for that, they would not be winners.

    Also, he had the Sacramento Kings as a winner.

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