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    Dont forget a prime Kobe owns a prime Duncan..in fact its Kobe 4 Duncan 2...

    If you remove the 1999 locked out season its Kobe 4 Duncan 1

    If you remove achilles season it would then be Kobe 5 Duncan 1 there really are no pathways for you to elevate sexuality tbh
    If you remove every single time Kobe lost to Duncan, Kobe is undefeated against Duncan.

    In fact, if you remove all the losses Kobe ever had, Kobe is undefeated, ever, and has won every single NBA championship.

    Also, Duncan never played for the Bulls.

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    Wont defend Kobe. But what this type of foolish scenarios you are assuming the best of each player. one could argue that Pippen would because of a diminished role or have migraines or Rodman would get ejected or Rose would blow a knee that all defeats the purpose of the exercise. Assuming players got along etc. who would you take? If you cant do that then why bother posting in here?
    The kobe would chuck, or Kareem would be frustrated with Shaq or Kobe or MJ would meantally destroy rose stuff is just casual fan crap no one cares about.
    No, Pippen complained once, Rodman getting ejected isn't constant, and Rose is oft injured (therefore I am not having him on the team). Kobe chucks all the time. If you want the 2001 ultimate side-kick version of Kobe, then I'd just go with West, who's a better play maker and clutch shooter at the guard position. A team with Kareem, Wilt and Worthy with be mighty crowded inside, and you would want shooters instead of slashers. West would be a better fit in this scenario.

    That said, the fact that you can argue which of the top 15 player you want to put at SG, when the Lakers have always been a big man team speaks to how incredibly great the Lakers were, historically,

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    No, Pippen complained once, Rodman getting ejected isn't constant, and Rose is oft injured (therefore I am not having him on the team). Kobe chucks all the time. If you want the 2001 ultimate side-kick version of Kobe, then I'd just go with West, who's a better play maker and clutch shooter at the guard position. A team with Kareem, Wilt and Worthy with be mighty crowded inside, and you would want shooters instead of slashers. West would be a better fit in this scenario.

    That said, the fact that you can argue which of the top 15 player you want to put at SG, when the Lakers have always been a big man team speaks to how incredibly great the Lakers were, historically,
    Pippen complained more than once... that was just the one that was public. Rodman was a flopper and if you play by current rules some his tricks would be exposed. Anyway I dont even care all that much about this I think Lakers could win so could Bulls. My issue is posters realize that we are talking all-time players in their prime but point to Rose's injury etc.

    now your point about spacing makes sense, focus on that instead of the rest of the bull . you are much better when you post with solid basketball reasoning instead of the extra stuff that has nothing to do with hoops.

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    Laker fan grasping at straws now

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    Yep. Give him the Tony Allen treatment.

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    Pippen complained more than once... that was just the one that was public. Rodman was a flopper and if you play by current rules some his tricks would be exposed. Anyway I dont even care all that much about this I think Lakers could win so could Bulls. My issue is posters realize that we are talking all-time players in their prime but point to Rose's injury etc.

    now your point about spacing makes sense, focus on that instead of the rest of the bull . you are much better when you post with solid basketball reasoning instead of the extra stuff that has nothing to do with hoops.
    How would you know Pippen complained if it wasn't public? He hated Kukoc, along with Jordan, spurred by Jackson as Jackson was creating this us vs. management mentality. Detroit Rodman was great, Bulls Rodman not so much. I personally would still like Grant over him.

    At the end, I may have a crazy big lineup with Pippen at point, Jordan at SG, Bob Love at SF, Grant at PF (or maybe Chet Walker at SF and Bob Love at PF), and then Artis Gilmore at C.

    It could match up decently well with Magic (Pippen guards him), West (Jordan guards him, and likely would eat him alive), Bob Love and Chet Walker would be slightly worse, or maybe even break even with Worthy, Gilmore will match up against Wilt in a contest of strengths, and Grant will have a very difficult time guarding Kareem, likely with frequent doubles from Jordan or Pippen. That said, I am counting Lakers Kareem, not the Bucks Kareem (75 to 81 version, which I consider his best Laker years individually).

    Lakers have the clear advantage, but Bulls can pull off a few games.

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    ^Pippen caught Media by certain surprise there (refusal to take the floor when a white man's number was called). That had to be handled delicately by Media and they handled it precisely that way.

    No muss. No fuss. Like it never happened. Like a ghost.

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    ^Pippen caught Media by certain surprise there (refusal to take the floor when a white man's number was called). That had to be handled delicately by Media and they handled it precisely that way.

    No muss. No fuss. Like it never happened. Like a ghost.
    That clip was played ad nauseum back in the day. I even have it on VCR in the highlights. It was the biggest NBA news that year other than Jordan's retirement, bigger than the Rockets winning the championship, bigger than anything else.

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    That clip was played ad nauseum back in the day. I even have it on VCR in the highlights. It was the biggest NBA news that year other than Jordan's retirement, bigger than the Rockets winning the championship, bigger than anything else.
    The visual, sure, but, there was nary indictment handed up. [Mum] was the word, and that word was obeyed.

    Find me one verbal condemnation. Not any verbiage where the Media member says he's going to condemn him, then proceeds to not condemn him, plenty of that . I want a plain condemnation.

    Chop/chop.

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    The visual, sure, but, there was nary indictment handed up. [Mum] was the word, and that word was obeyed.

    Find me one verbal condemnation. Not any verbiage where the Media member says he's going to condemn him, then proceeds to not condemn him, plenty of that . I want a plain condemnation.

    Chop/chop.
    Moving the goal post again. Going from "No muss. No fuss. Like it never happened. Like a ghost." to "verbal condemnation".

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    Moving the goal post again. Going from "No muss. No fuss. Like it never happened. Like a ghost." to "verbal condemnation".
    No. See, this is why I'm out of my in' mind to get caught getting ed by you. I know better.

    me.

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    What other Spurs PG is on the list then? Avery? No..... Johnny Moore? He didn't have a long enough prime IMO, good PG but all times? I had to put Tony on there like it or not man, that is their best PG they have had believe it or not. In his prime as well Tony was an excellent player, hate aside he was an all star. Who is your all Time Spurs PG? I know it's not Avery.
    Strickland. It's not even close.

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    Or move Robertson to the PG. He'd be the best defensive choice to cover Magic. He ran point at times.

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    No. See, this is why I'm out of my in' mind to get caught getting ed by you. I know better.

    me.
    You would have been fine if you didn't go around making things up and actually stuck to your own "rules".

    But you didn't.

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    You would have been fine if you didn't go around making things up and actually stuck to your own "rules".

    But you didn't.
    No. You'd a ed me no matter what. That's what you do here.

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    No. You'd a ed me no matter what. That's what you do here.
    Not true, I have no interest in that.

    You brought it upon yourself.

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    Not true, I have no interest in that.

    You brought it upon yourself.
    No. I'm right. You like to people, amb. That's your thing.

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    Skip Clueless was saying that if the bulls team was jordan/pippen/rodman/Tyson chandler/artis gilmore would beat those 5 from the lakers.

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    Dont forget a prime Kobe owns a prime Duncan..in fact its Kobe 4 Duncan 2...

    If you remove the 1999 locked out season its Kobe 4 Duncan 1

    If you remove achilles season it would then be Kobe 5 Duncan 1 there really are no pathways for you to elevate sexuality tbh
    you deserve to be pinked again for such a ty take.

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    Skip Clueless was saying that if the bulls team was jordan/pippen/rodman/Tyson chandler/artis gilmore would beat those 5 from the lakers.
    insanity.

    I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with that lineup.

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    Strickland. It's not even close.
    How many years did he play in SA? He is not on an all time Spurs team man.

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    i shift turnoboli down to play pg....spurs dont have any good pg, but they do have an abundance of perimeter players

    spurs only need to have a guy play pg, spread the floor, play defense and setup plays...enrique does none of that....


    enrique imo was never really a ALLSTAR or mvp candidate type of player, dude benefited playing on the spurs coatriding to best team records when the ASG weekend came along spurs had to have a few players to represent the spurs for that weekend due to best team record, do you really think he deserve being there? dude had no business attending any activities that weekend...just to pr himself he participated in these compe ions during the allstar weekend...dude is nothing more than a bonafide scrub looking for attention...
    Parker in his prime was a good PG, not a typical passing guard but honestly he is miles ahead of anyone after him especially Avery Johnson. I agree all times their PG's are pretty weak. Manu is a SG but runs the point sometimes as a backup, that's why I put him at SG on their all time list. Enrique was great in 013 and top 5 MVP candidate, after that he fell off the map pretty much I agree. He might have gotten in the ASG as well one or two times based on team record I agree. One or two times though he did deserve it, 013 and in 08-09 when he was at his peak he was an all star.

    Or move Robertson to the PG. He'd be the best defensive choice to cover Magic. He ran point at times.
    I can see him but as you said he is a SG.

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    Parker in his prime was a good PG, not a typical passing guard but honestly he is miles ahead of anyone after him especially Avery Johnson. I agree all times their PG's are pretty weak. Manu is a SG but runs the point sometimes as a backup, that's why I put him at SG on their all time list. Enrique was great in 013 and top 5 MVP candidate, after that he fell off the map pretty much I agree. He might have gotten in the ASG as well one or two times based on team record I agree. One or two times though he did deserve it, 013 and in 08-09 when he was at his peak he was an all star.


    I can see him but as you said he is a SG.
    he played some point.

    besides, someone up there has Shaq as a PF.

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    he played some point.

    besides, someone up there has Shaq as a PF.
    Well if we can just shift guys to a position that is not naturally theirs then sure, but the majority of his career he was a SG so that is why I did not put him up there as a starter. I would definitely have him on the bench though at SG, dude was nice.

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    So Shaq thinks he's better than Wilt Chamberlain?
    Shaq was absolutely better than Wilt.

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