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    Frankly, it's amazing to see how many conservative Americans hate America.
    Frankly its amazing how many liberals don't understand that many conservatives love their country for the values it upholds, rather than simply because they were born in it. Is the left in favor of blind patriotism these days? Is "My country right or wrong" now a popular idea among liberals?

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    Frankly, it's amazing to see how many conservative Americans hate America.
    It's not America anymore, America died this is some sort of zombie

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    Frankly, it's amazing to see how many conservative Americans hate America.
    National loyalty is overrated. Especially when you consider we can go invade some country just so some Jew CEO can profit from it with the lives of thousands of soldiers. Why should I care if Halliburton's special interests are at stake? Who gives a ?

    My motto is protect your family and your property and that's it.

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    Liberals really really hate the preamble to the declaration of independence.
    LOL... You mean this part?

    "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes..."
    So is Texas in a state of "absolute despostism" that the preamble cites as cause for throwing off the government?

    ...or is it just because Obama is president?

    And your "established law" argument gives you no moral high ground. Dred Scott anyone?
    Unity is the essence of the Cons ution. Nothing is more fundamental to its existence. The very first line reads "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union.... do ordain and establish this Cons ution for the United States of America."

    And just for the record, Dred Scott was effectively invalidated BY the cons ution. Specifically, the 14th amendment (one of the three reconstruction amendments) passed as a result of the civil war.

    Frankly, its amazing how so many "peace and tolerant loving" liberals can sound so genocidal when it comes to dealing with people who disagree with them.
    Genocidal? Hyperbole, not facts... the hallmark of a repug.

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    Frankly its amazing how many liberals don't understand that many conservatives love their country for the values it upholds, rather than simply because they were born in it. Is the left in favor of blind patriotism these days? Is "My country right or wrong" now a popular idea among liberals?

    ter McGee
    It's not America anymore, America died this is some sort of zombie
    National loyalty is overrated. Especially when you consider we can go invade some country just so some Jew CEO can profit from it with the lives of thousands of soldiers. Why should I care if Halliburton's special interests are at stake? Who gives a ?

    My motto is protect your family and your property and that's it.
    lol

    Why do you guys still live in the US?

    Laziness?

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    So is Texas in a state of "absolute despostism" that the preamble cites as cause for throwing off the government?
    Certainly moreso than the absolute "despotism" that pissed off the people who wrote that little thing.
    ...or is it just because Obama is president?
    Sure that is part of the reason some idiots want to succeed. You here this every time a democrat is in office, just like you read about liberals saying they are moving to Canada when a republican is in office. It is stupid. But I thought you were willing to discuss the concept of succession as a moral act.

    If you would actually ing read what I said you would see that I don't support actual succession, but rather the ability to do so.

    Unity is the essence of the Cons ution. Nothing is more fundamental to its existence. The very first line reads "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union.... do ordain and establish this Cons ution for the United States of America."
    Locke, and individual and property rights. government restraint. The cons ution is about Unity. Do you just make this up?

    And just for the record, Dred Scott was effectively invalidated BY the cons ution. Specifically, the 14th amendment (one of the three reconstruction amendments) passed as a result of the civil war.
    That in no way invalidates my argument that the law in and of itself provides no moral justification for preventing secession. But I am glad you recognize that Supreme Court decision should be based off of the original intent of the words written and is in no way a living do ent.

    Genocidal? Hyperbole, not facts... the hallmark of a repug.
    a repug? wow boutons is really rubbing off on you. He is making you liberals dumber by the day.

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    Why do you guys still live in the US?
    Because I have a well paying job here.

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    Certainly moreso than the absolute "despotism" that pissed off the people who wrote that little thing.
    Oh really, more than the "absolute despotism" of the people who wrote the preamble?

    The nature of absolute is that you can't be "more" absolute... not that Texas is under any state of despotism to begin with. You have representation in congress, you have a say in who is elected president and this state is allowed to pass state laws within the scope of the cons ution that it agreed to when it joined the union.

    If you would actually ing read what I said you would see that I don't support actual succession, but rather the ability to do so.
    Still wrong... and you were the one who brought up the preamble to the Declaration of Independence.

    The premise of preamble is that the conditions (it cites) should exist to legitimize overthrowing the government.

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    Because I have a well paying job here.
    A man of principle

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    thanks

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    This place is terrible! I'm never leaving!

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    This place is terrible! I'm never leaving!
    I said it's terrible? Where did I say that?

    How long do you want to keep this going? All night? This could be fun!

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    I was mocking generally. I can customize one for you.

    National loyalty is overrated. Especially when you consider we can go invade some country just so some Jew CEO can profit from it with the lives of thousands of soldiers. Why should I care if Halliburton's special interests are at stake? Who gives a ? I'm never leaving! .

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    How's the weather where you're at? It got up to 101 here today.

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    How's the weather where you're at? It got up to 101 here today.
    I seceded, so everything is in Kelvin here.

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    They can say whatever they want but it doesn't make it legitimate, what are they going to do attack us? They have no moral right.
    Just like the BS you spew doesn't make it legitimate. What are you going to do attack me? You have no moral right.

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    Just like the BS you spew doesn't make it legitimate. What are you going to do attack me? You have no moral right.
    Hi shlomo

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    lol

    Why do you guys still live in the US?

    Laziness?
    because I can, I have more right than all these s and coons

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    because I can, I have more right than all these s and coons
    No you don't. This is the system you chose.

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    I would love to see the lib s cry when Texas thrives on their own while their liberal hole states continue to suffer from high income inequality and unaffordable housing.

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    No you don't. This is the system you chose.
    I didn't choose , this was never the will of the people. Sieg heil.

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    I would love to see the lib s cry when Texas thrives on their own while their liberal hole states continue to suffer from high income inequality and unaffordable housing.
    This State that I have spent my whole life in would not thrive on its own.
    It would not be funny watching this state spend every bit of the taxpayers money on barricading the border.

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    This State that I have spent my whole life in would not thrive on its own.
    It would not be funny watching this state spend every bit of the taxpayers money on barricading the border.
    If it's so bad then they'd just leave problem solved

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    If it's so bad then they'd just leave problem solved
    Who would leave?

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    I didn't choose , this was never the will of the people. Sieg heil.
    If it's so bad then you'd just leave problem solved

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