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    My son learned to love the Spurs from going to the games with me. One of the things about being a father I can point to with pride. He returned the favor in 2013 and 2014 by flying in from Las Vegas and taking me to a home Finals game. The game in 2014 was the championship game.

    Going to a finals game with your son: $850 ticket Spurs winning the championship at the game: Priceless
    That's awesome. I was able to go to the game 1 2014 WCF against OKC with my family. My one (and only) playoff game. Pretty cool too. My son wears a Tiago Splitter jersey we bought at that game all the time.

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    I think Stan got crosswise with Managing General Partner Angelo Drossos (not the first time that happened to a coach). Stan was a fine coach in the early 80's.

    Does anyone remember Morris McHone? The Spurs had a bad start in 1983 (11-20) and Bob Bass fired him and took the job. This was the start of the only truly bad stretch of basketball for the Spurs over several years. Seems like an eternity ago.

    I looked on Wiki and found Mo McHone had a job with the Austin Toros in the last 4-5 years.
    I seem to remember McHone got into a fight with Allen Bristow the assistant coach (back then teams had only one- now the Spurs have 20+).

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    The years from 1983-1990 were the pits for Spurs fans. We had become used to having teams that won over 50 games and had some really exciting players. We were spoiled and thought our team was going to win all the time.

    All of a sudden, our first group of super stars, Gervin and Silas and Larry Kenon, were gone and although we had some stars like Artis Gilmore and Alvin Robertson, the team just didn't have enough quality players--and maybe coaching--to deliver the success we had become used to. That's when you learn to love the effort put out by lesser players in regular season games and cheer for the wins like never before because they were so hard to come by.

    It's the true test of a fan base, my friends. And we will be very very lucky to avoid a down phase here when the Big 3 leave. Sure the FO is trying to replace them, but they are irreplaceable. You just don't have 3 Hall of Famers on one team for so many years any more. The continuity as much as their individual skills has been a significant part of the unbelievable run of 16 Fifty-plus Win seasons. Most NBA coaches and players believe that is a record that will probably never be equaled. So we are spoiled rotten--and probably don't appreciate what we have had over this long period of time. I'm gonna wring every last drop of the juice out of this experience and so should all of us.

    No other team's fans have had this wonderful run of success--or will ever have it again.
    I gotta say I'm glad I started following the Spurs in those really down years, it helps you appreciate how amazing things have been. 85-86 was when I first started following the team and it may have been the worst year in franchise history in retrospect with Ice being traded before the season started, Johnny Moore getting sick, drafting Alfrederick the Great, Hemisfair Arena being at like 40% capacity unless the Lakers or Celtics were in town, and Cotton Fitzsimmons coaching the team. But it was still fun as going to the games, and Alvin Robertson, Artis Gilmore, Mike Mitc , David Greenwood, all these guys were great with their fans. It still pisses me off all the Alvin got into because we ing loved him, all anyone could talk about after winning the lottery was how devastating Alvin + DRob were going to be together.

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    I gotta say I'm glad I started following the Spurs in those really down years, it helps you appreciate how amazing things have been. 85-86 was when I first started following the team and it may have been the worst year in franchise history in retrospect with Ice being traded before the season started, Johnny Moore getting sick, drafting Alfrederick the Great, Hemisfair Arena being at like 40% capacity unless the Lakers or Celtics were in town, and Cotton Fitzsimmons coaching the team. But it was still fun as going to the games, and Alvin Robertson, Artis Gilmore, Mike Mitc , David Greenwood, all these guys were great with their fans. It still pisses me off all the Alvin got into because we ing loved him, all anyone could talk about after winning the lottery was how devastating Alvin + DRob were going to be together.
    I never get tired of reading your posts, especially about those old Spurs teams.

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    1985 - 1989 = -4

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    My parents bought courtside floor seats for me in '79 when I was a kid and they were $9. Different times.
    One of the nice things about the Spurs dry run in the post-Gervin era was you could sneak down to the courtside seats in the fourth quarter. One of those times my dad took this great pic of Charles Barkley doing a two hand jam and then gave him a big print of it the next year when Philly was in town.

    Still, my best seat ever was when my dad got me picked to be the honorary ball boy one night, and I got to sit in that birdcage basket support. The game is so unbelievably physical when you're watching from a couple of feet behind the paint.

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    One of the best things about those years at Hemisfair Arena was you could buy a cheapo ticket and after the first quarter move right down to the empty deluxorama seats, the few ushers that were there were cool. Oh yeah, Volver at the end of the third quarter!

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    One of the nice things about the Spurs dry run in the post-Gervin era was you could sneak down to the courtside seats in the fourth quarter. One of those times my dad took this great pic of Charles Barkley doing a two hand jam and then gave him a big print of it the next year when Philly was in town.

    Still, my best seat ever was when my dad got me picked to be the honorary ball boy one night, and I got to sit in that birdcage basket support. The game is so unbelievably physical when you're watching from a couple of feet behind the paint.
    One of the best things about those years at Hemisfair Arena was you could buy a cheapo ticket and after the first quarter move right down to the empty deluxorama seats, the few ushers that were there were cool. Oh yeah, Volver at the end of the third quarter!
    That sounded like fun.....too bad I wouldn't have been old enough to remember any of it......at least before 1988.

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    One of the best things about those years at Hemisfair Arena was you could buy a cheapo ticket and after the first quarter move right down to the empty deluxorama seats, the few ushers that were there were cool. Oh yeah, Volver at the end of the third quarter!
    I tried doing that at Staples Center one time when the section below me was 90% empty at a Spurs-Clippers game in 2000 and the ushers there were having no part of it.

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    I tried doing that at Staples Center one time when the section below me was 90% empty at a Spurs-Clippers game in 2000 and the ushers there were having no part of it.
    Times have definitely changed.

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    One of the nice things about the Spurs dry run in the post-Gervin era was you could sneak down to the courtside seats in the fourth quarter. One of those times my dad took this great pic of Charles Barkley doing a two hand jam and then gave him a big print of it the next year when Philly was in town.

    Still, my best seat ever was when my dad got me picked to be the honorary ball boy one night, and I got to sit in that birdcage basket support. The game is so unbelievably physical when you're watching from a couple of feet behind the paint.
    I think Alvin with David would have been lethal in 1989, but Terry mings was really good and Willie Anderson was a fine player as well at the 2 guard.

    I had fun watching things turn so quickly with D Rob on the floor. It was also fun (living in Dallas after college) to watch the Robinson team wipe out the Mavericks on a regular basis in the early 1990s - tickets were not hard to come by then in Dallas.

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    I don't know if it's just me, but I see it's hard to find info on the Spurs from 1985 to 1989. You really have to hunt for it, and the stuff that you do find, it's not a whole lot. I know the Spurs made the playoffs with losing records in 2 of those years. I also know that Alvin Robertson was the team's best player.

    My earliest memories of the Spurs are from the 88-89 season, when I was 9 years old. I remember that team having Robertson, Vernon Maxwell, Willie Anderson, and Johnny Dawkins on it. That was the year I became a Spurs fan, and since I was living in Cleveland at that time, I only got to see them on TV twice that season when they played the Cavs. I also remember them losing both games. In doing research I noticed one other thing.............the Spurs suited up 22 players that season.

    Can anybody that was old enough to remember those Spurs teams elaborate on the bad years for me? Thanks in advance!!
    Oh how I hated depending on the tv schedule to see the Spurs. I became a fan around 91-92. Speaking of Cleveland don't know what yr but do you remember the game Drob stole the inbounds and threw one down basically at the buzzer for the win?

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    Oh how I hated depending on the tv schedule to see the Spurs. I became a fan around 91-92. Speaking of Cleveland don't know what yr but do you remember the game Drob stole the inbounds and threw one down basically at the buzzer for the win?
    I definitely remember that.....I believe it was 1992.

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    how did bird get drafted in 78 but play in 79 for his college team?

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    Bird played for Indiana St. in the 78-79 season......

    I cannot believe you guys don't recall the Michigan St. vs. Indiana St. 1979 Championship game.....I don't mean actually watching it, but hearing about it all throughout the careers of both players. I mean it has been discussed so many times for the last 3 decades even.

    Both players were drafted in the 79 draft and were rookies in the 79-80 season....the one where Magic won Finals MVP.
    Bird was drafted in the 1978 draft. Back then there was a loophole in the draft that allowed you to take someone a year early as long as you got him signed to a contract before the next year's draft took place, which is exactly what Red Auerbach did to steal Bird with the #6 pick in the 1978 draft. That loophole was closed the next year. Brilliant move by Auerbach to land the best player in the country with a mid lotto pick. That probably has to be the greatest pick in the history of the league, Bird was an obvious franchise player with how great he made Indiana State.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1978.html

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    Bird was drafted in the 1978 draft. Back then there was a loophole in the draft that allowed you to take someone a year early as long as you got him signed to a contract before the next year's draft took place, which is exactly what Red Auerbach did to steal Bird with the #6 pick in the 1978 draft. That loophole was closed the next year. Brilliant move by Auerbach to land the best player in the country with a mid lotto pick.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1978.html
    yeah after I posted and I went back and looked it up.....that is a weird loophole......imagine if it were around today, maybe it is.

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    yeah after I posted and I went back and looked it up.....that is a weird loophole......imagine if it were around today, maybe it is.
    Can you imagine how pissed the GMs of the first five teams to pick must have been when they saw Boston pick Bird?

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    Well I was looking at the 79 draft, and we could have had Laimbeer....he went 2 picks after us in the 3rd.

    Also, when we picked Hughes, we could have had Joe Dumars. Imagine a backcourt of Dumars and Robertson.

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    Well I was looking at the 79 draft, and we could have had Laimbeer....he went 2 picks after us in the 3rd.

    Also, when we picked Hughes, we could have had Joe Dumars. Imagine a backcourt of Dumars and Robertson.
    Bob Bass and Doug Moe knew nothing about drafting players. That's why the Spurs could not get past the Bullets or the Lakers back then.

    The Spurs drafted Wiley Peck in the first round in 1979 - a hands of stone no talent.

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    Bob Bass and Doug Moe knew nothing about drafting players. That's why the Spurs could not get past the Bullets or the Lakers back then.

    The Spurs drafted Wiley Peck in the first round in 1979 - a hands of stone no talent.
    You can say that again!!

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    None of that seems that long ago. I laugh at these new Spurs fans who don't recall missing the playoffs. Still 16 years a fan is a long time, but back in them days it was rough.

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    None of that seems that long ago. I laugh at these new Spurs fans who don't recall missing the playoffs. Still 16 years a fan is a long time, but back in them days it was rough.
    When I was a kid and getting into Spurs basketball, I was grateful for playoff appearances, but serious contention was not really what was going on. It would take a lot of luck and another team screwing up - often times it was the LA Lakers with their illegitimately loaded teams from the 1980's. As as result, the Spurs never really seriously threatened getting to the finals until David and Tim played together. The Spurs only had one series where they could have gone to the finals with one win and that was in 1979 against the Bullets. They coughed up a 3-1 lead (I think) and did not win the EASTERN Conference. Those Spurs teams simply ignored defense and had to outscore opponents - not well rounded teams. The 1995 Playoffs against Houston was the other heartbreaker, but the Spurs never got to an elimination game (they lost the 6th game and the series). Houston has won maybe 2-3 Playoff series since then while the Spurs have won so many series I can't even keep an accurate count (35-40 series)?

    The Spurs shifted to the West in 1980 or 1981. The Spurs next game in the Conference Finals with a chance to take the conference was in 1999 (LOB #1).
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    None of that seems that long ago. I laugh at these new Spurs fans who don't recall missing the playoffs. Still 16 years a fan is a long time, but back in them days it was rough.
    I don't go as far back as a lot of fans on this board. Since I wasn't born until 1979, the only 2 seasons of missing the playoffs I remember are the 88-89 season (when I became a Spurs fan) and of course the 96-97 season.

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    Well I was looking at the 79 draft, and we could have had Laimbeer....he went 2 picks after us in the 3rd.

    Also, when we picked Hughes, we could have had Joe Dumars. Imagine a backcourt of Dumars and Robertson.
    SMH

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    blazers are still only team in the league with reg season winning records vs spurs though
    Expect the Spurs to remedy that this season. The Blazers are going to be old time Clippers bad.

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