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Thanks bro! Redskins and Raiders are two upcoming teams going back to their old ways. NFL is much better when both teams are good
yeah, kirk cousins should be tier 2. i merely went off the QB's i listed in the OP way back when, before cousins was even considered relevant
Thanks bro! Redskins and Raiders are two upcoming teams going back to their old ways. NFL is much better when both teams are good
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Right now the pro bowlers are...
Tom Brady
Carson Palmer
Aaron Rodgers
Big Ben
then
Russell Wilson
Cam Newton
The only QB in the league under 30 who has won a SB....Russell Wilson.
gonna keep this one alive quarter way through the season... just establishing tiers without specific rankings/orders (and only talking about current starters under 30)
Tier 1: Franchise QB's - Doesn't mean elite QB's, just that these squad's won't be in the QB market for 5+ years
Luck, Wilson, Newton, Carr, Dalton - Carr and Dalton move up to this tier based on what we've seen.
Tier 2: Guys doing well for themselves
Kirk Cousins, Carson Wentz, Dak Prescott, Matt Stafford - it's very early for wentz and dak... but the returns are too good to have them any lower. Stafford had a rough outing against Chicago but otherwise has been surprisingly solid. you could argue stafford fits the description for tier 1... i'd probably have him and cousins in tier 1.5
Tier 3 - Doing well enough to hang around, but needsto show more
Jameis Winston, Sam Bradford, Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, Trevor Siemian - Bradford has played better than anybody here, but he's going to have to sustain it to overcome his track record. Winston has had some disaster games, but was up against the Cards and Broncos secondaries, and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt after an unexpectedly solid rookie season. Had a tough time placing Siemian, but his limited experience, low pedigree, and essentially perfect situation means its too early to have him higher after a 3 game sample size
Tier 4 - QB on really thin ice... on pace to fall out of favor sooner rather than later
Marcus Mariota, Ryan Tannehill - i get that it's early for mariota, but he's looked awful and borderline incompetent
Tier 5 - Team needs a replacement/answer ASAP. Abandon ship.
Case Keenum, Blaine Gabbert - Keenum hasn't been disastrous, but he's barely been squeaking by and it's painfully clear he has no shot at being a long term answer
Raven your boy stafford lighting it up tbh...
Last night we saw some historical comparsions for Russell Wilson. I really don't think most are aware of just how amazing his career has been so far, he really has had the best first five seasons we have ever seen from any QB ever if we take everything into account.
But it's BEAST MODE...hahaha~~~ As we can see...bull ~~~
Wilson has so many...."in history"....it's ridiculous.
Norman's injury ruined that game. And cousins scored too damn early.
Using spurraider's tier system:
Tier 1: Andrew Luck
Tier 2: Kirk Cousins, Carson Wentz, Matt Stafford
Tier 3: Jameis Winston, Dak Prescott, Tyrod Taylor, Derek Carr, Andy Dalton
Tier 4: Blake Bortles, Sam Bradford, Trevor Siemian, Marcus Mariota
Tier 5: Russell "Struggle" Wilson, Cam "Scam" Newton, Case Keenum, Colin Kaepernick, Ryan Tannehill
Who on that list has won a SB....Russell Wilson
Only QB in history to have two 100 QB ranking in first two seasons...Russell Wilson
Who on that list has played in two SB...Russell Wilson
Who on that list has had a 110.1 QB ranking to lead the NFL....Russell Wilson
Who has won the most games...Russell Wilson
Who has won the most playoff games....Russell Wilson
Who has had more 4th quarter comebacks...Russell Wilson
Who has won a playoff game in all his seasons...Russell Wilson
Pro bowl MVP...Russell Wilson
Who is talked about with the old legends....Russell Wilson (as we saw last night)
Dude, do ya just not get it?
wouldn't really call him my boy.. their team is fairly ty tbh, i don't expect much
how the is braford still under 30..
The only under 30 QB to walk right in and by his second season was winning a SB...Russell Wilson.
The winningest QB in his first 5 seasons in history......Russell Wilson.
SB winner/Pro Bowl MVP/Lead the NFL 110.1 QB rating.....Russell Wilson
Interesting stat: Russell Wilson has never finished higher than 18th in pass attempts in a season
Also, Russell Wilson has played with a RB that finished in the top 5 in rushing yards in 3 of his 4 NFL seasons, heading into this year..highest % of any QB in league history..
Wilson has played with a top 5 defense(statistically) in every single season of his career, which is the highest % of any QB in NFL history, too..
I hope we get to see him in a role where he has to carry a team, one day, tbh..a lot of potential, I'd love to see how he would perform in that role..
Flash in the pan. Like so many qb that rely on their legs. He's not even the Tony Parker of the NFL.
Interesting stat: Russell Wilson has never finished higher than 18th in pass attempts in a season
Also, Russell Wilson has played with a RB that finished in the top 5 in rushing yards in 3 of his 4 NFL seasons, heading into this year
Wilson has played with a top 5 defense(statistically) in every single season of his career, which is the highest % of any QB in NFL history, too..
I hope we get to see him in a role where he has to carry a team, one day, tbh..a lot of potential, I'd love to see how he would perform in that role..
Who was that Browns QB when Jim Brown was ruling the NFL, ever heard of Frank Ryan? And didn't HOF QB's...Interesting stat: Russell Wilson has never finished higher than 18th in pass attempts in a season
Also, Russell Wilson has played with a RB that finished in the top 5 in rushing yards in 3 of his 4 NFL seasons, heading into this year
Wilson has played with a top 5 defense(statistically) in every single season of his career, which is the highest % of any QB in NFL history, too..
I hope we get to see him in a role where he has to carry a team, one day, tbh..a lot of potential, I'd love to see how he would perform in that role..
John Unitas have HOFers Ray Berry, John Mackey, Lenny Moore.
Barst Starr...NINE..HOFers.
Terry Bradshaw...NINE...HOFers
Bob Griese...Larry Csonka, The Killer B's
Tom Brady...Bill Belichick
Jim Kelly...Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, a great D.
Joe Montana/Steve Young....Jerry Rice
Troy Aikman...Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin
Dan Marino...the Marks Brothers, Tony Nathan
Peyton Manning....Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne
Dan Fouts...Chuck Muncie, Kellon Winslow, Charlie Joiner, John Jefferson, Wes Chandler
Joe Namath...Don Maynard, Matt Snell, Emerson Boozer
Kenny Stabler...Fred Biletnikoff, Cliff Branch, Dave Casper
Otto Graham...Marion Motley, Dante Levilli, Mac Speedie
Fran Tarkenton...The Purple People Eaters
What great QB wan't surrounded by talent? What GREAT receivers has RW had?
Russell Wilson is the best young QB I've seen and I've seen them all since the early 60's.
Who is this HOF QB that was surrounded by a team and it was all on him, well?
gtfo struggle has ing jimmy graham
And Doug Baldwin. Best slot WR in the league.gtfo struggle has ing jimmy graham
Not to mention the best coaching staff this side of Belichick.
It's not a knock on Wilson at all. He's been blessed with talent around him and has taken advantage of it. He's an elite game manager. Best ever I would even say.
I can see it now....
If we were here in the 60's.
What if he didn't have Ray Berry the best receiver, Lenny Moore the best receiving RB and the great John Mackey at TE, he'd suck.
Talking Johnny Unitas. All of those guys in the HOF.
Russell Wilson walked right in and took off, how could anyone who folows football not get this guys greatness?
I challenge anyone to find any QB with a more impressive video than this one. And he's not throwing to Julio Jones, THE GRONK, Antonio Brown, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss..............
Sometimes I wonder about you people. Here's a guy who set an NCAA passing efficency record his last season at Wisconsin, then set an NFL record for QB ratings, had more wins than anyone in history and by year 4 he'd already played in two SB's. And he has a ton of "historical" numbers. WAKE UP~~~~~~~~
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I'd take Dak over any qb under 30. Seriously, dude is a seriously intelligent young man. He stays in the pocket, reads the defense and doesn't make much mistakes. He doesn't go deep but his intermediate passing game is really good.
Dak is already superior to a player like Derek Carr IMHO
brilliant analysis tbh
Board conservatives always say that.
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