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    Nobody said ANYTHING about killing the girl, Chump. C'mon now...why go there?
    Why not? All bets are off once she kind of tried to backhand him.

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    Really? Really? Now I'm to blame?

    Yes or No question to you........if the girl just did what the cop asked her to do.....none of this would have happened? I'm not taking up for the cop...if he gets fired and sued....that's A O.K. with me.

    Why are you so quick to defend "Defiance"?
    Yes. You're now part of the problem. You clearly don't get it. The job of the officer is to defuse the situation and serve the public's best interest. Instead he escalated a situation that wasn't life threatening because someone "didn't listen". The fact that the situation could have been avoided if the girl simply listened is irrelevant.

    What is relevant is the job of the officer and how he handles the situation. The officer was the one who proactively took the event to another level, physically no less. When his job is to do the exact opposite. Then to make matters worse he endangered everyone else around him the moment he acted against protocol.

    ...and actually one of the first things he should have thought of was protecting the safety and best interest of the minor who was refusing to move. Not how to physically make them move. Until you understand that...then you're just as bad as the officer who assaulted the girl. Sorry.

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    Under no cir stance should a man put his hands on a woman, let alone a child, like the coward in that vid. From all the statements from students and faculty at the school, that child posed no threat. All the victim blaming here leads me to believe yall are woman/child beaters.
    I don't have a problem with hardy, at all. Love his aggression and passion. Special teams coach needed that. Dan Bailey is the only reason that guy still has a job.

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    your just stupid...she was in the wrong and she had many chances to change what happened...also
    your a racist ...
    Who cares that she was in the wrong. This is what people like you don't understand. The officer is paid for by the public and his job is to protect and serve the public. Especially the best interest of a minor.

    When people like you demand that we are to stand down and automatically obey the ones we give the authority to protect us...its no wonder they abuse that power.

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    He was obviously a strong dude, should have just picked her disobedient ass up desk and all and walked her out.

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    Her dad should kick that punks ass. If he can't do it hire it done.

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    Her dad should kick that punks ass. If he can't do it hire it done.
    Tough to pull off from jail.

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    Horrible reach. Try again.

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    The child was Hardheaded but did not deserve all the thrashing. What he should have done was lifted the desk and took her out of the room. What would she do? She would surely get of the desk then. That would be a more non violent way to deescalate the situation. She would have been outsmarted, out of the class, and pissed.

    I'm sure all you guys grew up with hardheaded class mates who couldn't follow directions at all costs. When you became an adult, you realized these kids had most likely, horrible upbringings.

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    Horrible reach. Try again.
    It was a softball from avante relax. And learn how to use "reach" better next time when dealing with statistics.

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    The child was Hardheaded but did not deserve all the thrashing. What he should have done was lifted the desk and took her out of the room. What would she do? She would surely get of the desk then. That would be a more non violent way to deescalate the situation. She would have been outsmarted, out of the class, and pissed.

    I'm sure all you guys grew up with hardheaded class mates who couldn't follow directions at all costs. When you became an adult, you realized these kids had most likely, horrible upbringings.
    Same thoughts here. Carrying her and the desk out would have humiliated her for being the brat she was.

    Did just read another video shows her hit the cop, haven't seen it yet. Still doesn't change my thoughts on the lift and carry out tactic.

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    Then why were the police called? I guess that cop just decided to profile that girl today. "Her classroom conduct" is the beginning of it all.....
    Actually I'm not even sure what she did was grounds for expulsion much less anything more than a few days of suspension.

    Not even sure why a policeman was necessary. If the girl was 6 didn't want to leave her desk, would they have called the cops just the same?

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    Actually I'm not even sure what she did was grounds for expulsion much less anything more than a few days of suspension.

    Not even sure why a policeman was necessary. If the girl was 6 didn't want to leave her desk, would they have called the cops just the same?
    Be thankful you'll never have to worry about this with your children at the private Christian school you are paying for.

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    It was a softball from avante relax. And learn how to use "reach" better next time when dealing with statistics.
    Wasn't talking about your race bait. I meant to quote the lame who quoted me.

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    I would have tried to talk some sense into the kid. If I saw that just wasn't going to work then I would have dragged her and her desk out the door. If she's kicking and punching I'm pretty sure I could handle it.

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    I would have tried to talk some sense into the kid. If I saw that just wasn't going to work then I would have dragged her and her desk out the door. If she's kicking and punching I'm pretty sure I could handle it.
    At what age would you have chosen this path over your previous interactions?

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    The failure is on the teacher and then the principal who were unable to dissolve the situation. Their inablity to do much of anything should be of greater concern. An officer using excessive force is really nothing new, and not going to change anytime soon. The age and/or sex of the offender are superficial in the eyes of the law.

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    The failure is on the teacher and then the principal who were unable to dissolve the situation. Their inablity to do much of anything should be of greater concern. An officer using excessive force is really nothing new, and not going to change anytime soon. The age and/or sex of the offender are superficial in the eyes of the law.
    normally i agree with your posts but I think the blame starts with the sheboon for being an unruly . anytime a cop goes ballistic though people should be concerned.

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    normally i agree with your posts but I think the blame starts with the sheboon for being an unruly . anytime a cop goes ballistic though people should be concerned.
    Absolutely it's the kids fault, even moreso if her parent(s) condone that type of behavior. That is certainly not normal, and she kind of got what was coming to her IMO

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    Typical "it's because she was black" response from the media/usual suspects.

    When a police officer has been called to the classroom to remove you, it's abundantly clear YOU, the student, are disrupting the flow of activity, AKA LEARNING, in the classroom. Clearing the room is not the solution. You need to follow the teacher's instructions to relinquish your phone and go to detention/principal's office/etc. If YOU have let the situation reach the point where a cop is forced to remove you physically, that's on you. Regardless of your race, creed, color of skin, whatever.

    Calling it some kind of hate crime/hate motivated arrest is ing absurd. GTFO of the classroom with your disruptive diva bull . At the same time, was it excessive? Perhaps. But it is ENTIRELY on the student for escalating the situation to the point that the school cop was even called into the classroom.

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    I'm all for teaching kids to not put themselves in a position to where a police officer can rationalize hurting or killing you. I've said that many times here. But this is just silly. The dude Donkey Konged her for what? He must have seen too many cop movies where the police abuse the out of their suspects and cover it up with witty catch-phrase and a sarcastic at ude (that gets results). Doesn't work that way in the real world. He's going to learn that the hard way.

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    Under no cir stance should a man put his hands on a woman, let alone a child, like the coward in that vid.
    I abhor this sexist line of reasoning. A person should never use violence as anything but a last resort against anyone. And whenever violence is absolutely necessary, it should have no discrimination.

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    I abhor this sexist line of reasoning. A person should never use violence as anything but a last resort against anyone. And whenever violence is absolutely necessary, it should have no discrimination.
    Yeah...that's a pretty dumb statement.

    I've always told people I work restraints with that there are two things you always remember...first, don't around...go in with conviction and get the takedown done for the safety of everyone involved(after other non-physical measures have been exhausted, of course)...second, never underestimate the women...they can be a lot stronger than you think and they typically scratch, bite and go for the nuts.

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    Be thankful you'll never have to worry about this with your children at the private Christian school you are paying for.
    Pretty much. A smaller class with well behaved kids is definitely a big plus of a private school

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    I would have tried to talk some sense into the kid. If I saw that just wasn't going to work then I would have dragged her and her desk out the door.
    That is what I thought…...A 220 lb man could have simply dragged the desk & student out the door….Instead he goes Mike Tyson on the kid & traumatizes the entire class…The Cop also arrested a student who captured the incident on her cell phone when she refused to give the Cop her phone…

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