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    So when kawhi gets hot and that pos freezes him its ok..
    you don't watch the games obviously

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    You need some toast for all that jelly?

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    aldridge took as many shots as parker did but made 4... and TP assisted 2 of those
    Parker assisted on Aldridge's first 2 baskets in the first 2 minutes of the game. Both 20 foot jumpers. Then Denver changed their defense to contest LAs jumpers and it opened it up for Parker. Something Tim couldn't make them do last year. Exactly what some were saying on this board all summer.

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    First great game of the season. Hopefully he doesn't get a big head and thinks he can do this against good teams. I also don't like how LMA has become an afterthought these last two games.

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    Spurs apparently get better by not letting other good players play (i.e. Ginobili). There are too many scoring threats on the team and it really is an issue of how to EFFICIENTLY score.

    I kind of wonder why Duncan needs to fire off a mid-range jumper or Aldridge needs to post up. Aldridge will always get an open shot if Parker keeps dribbling and waits till he's open.

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    I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

    That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

    Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.

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    Fourteen shot attempts last night. More than anyone except Leonard and Mills.

    What happened last night was what is supposed to happen with our offense. Parker opened the game passing to Aldridge. When the defense starting denying the ball to Aldridge, the offense moved on to another shooter...whoever was open AND had a hot hand.

    You seem to imagine that nothing that goes on out on the court is impacted at all by the way the defense is playing or who has the hot hand. Aldridge only shot 4 of 14 last night. Lots of other guys were shooting much better. Why shouldn't the TEAM pay attention to whomever the defense is allowing to shoot and has the hot hand?

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    Fourteen shot attempts last night. More than anyone except Leonard and Mills.

    What happened last night was what is supposed to happen with our offense. Parker opened the game passing to Aldridge. When the defense starting denying the ball to Aldridge, the offense moved on to another shooter...whoever was open AND had a hot hand.

    You seem to imagine that nothing that goes on out on the court is impacted at all by the way the defense is playing or who has the hot hand. Aldridge only shot 4 of 14 last night. Lots of other guys were shooting much better. Why shouldn't the TEAM pay attention to whomever the defense is allowing to shoot and has the hot hand?
    You are assuming the player-fan-crew actually possess basketball knowledge, general intelligence, logic, observational skills and critical thinking skills. You should know better than that.

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    I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

    That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

    Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.
    Parker is key for the 1st team offense to be effective. Postups by Leonard, Aldridge, Duncan are only useful on a mismatch. Diaw is a master at finding these opportunities.

    BTW... West was shooting at a high percentage. Aldridge needs to step up his focus.

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    Gotta admit that it was weird watching last nights game with Tony looking like MVParker.

    For the good of the team, all that matters. If he has 6pts/3asts next game and the team wins by 10+, I'll be just as happy tbh

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    Parker assisted on Aldridge's first 2 baskets in the first 2 minutes of the game. Both 20 foot jumpers. Then Denver changed their defense to contest LAs jumpers and it opened it up for Parker. Something Tim couldn't make them do last year. Exactly what some were saying on this board all summer.
    yeah and then aldridge missed 10 of his next 12 shots. parker had 4 assists before making a shot himself. but keep reaching. because lol porker, amirite?

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    Tony Parker played well

    We won

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    I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

    That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

    Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.
    Rique doesn't have nor will he ever have Stockton's shooting touch or vision. He has like one three pointer all season and averages some of the lowest APG out of all starting PGs. That's not going to magically change this late in his career.

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    Rique doesn't have nor will he ever have Stockton's shooting touch or vision. He has like one three pointer all season and averages some of the lowest APG out of all starting PGs. That's not going to magically change this late in his career.
    Did you watch the game last night. Parker made some very Stockton like passes last night. I have seen Parker play like a passing PG and he is capable of it. And Parker jumpshot is just as good as Stockton's. Yeah, his 3pt shot isn't, but again, Parker has more speed than Stockton ever possessed.

    Parker has excellent vision. Yeah, it not good as Manu's, Diaw or Stockton, but its a notch below it.

    Big thing about Parker, was he came out looking to pass first last night. It's not that Parker's vision is bad, its that he looking to shoot first. So the passing lanes and angles close before he can take advantage because he presses to score as oppose to pass when the lane is available.

    Prime example last night was the last 3 by Kawhi. Parker is running down the floor. His defender is trailing. Faried is the only guy b/n him and basket. He speeds up and AS SOON AS Faried takes a step back to defend the lane, he shots the pass to Kawhi for the open corner 3. That is something you expect from Manu. Old Parker would have drove it to the basket and once the shot wasn't available pass it to Kawhi.

    Last night game was very promising of the type of player Parker can be if he becomes a pass first type of PG for the remainder of his career.

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    Leonard shutdown Gallo tonight. He had a lot on his plate..Tony has a lot on his plate too, but its mostly during dinner and lunch time tbh
    you aint right ...

    Tony looked good.

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    Playing this way. Spurs had the highest scoring first half of the year. Tony led in points and assists while shooting at a high percentage. I think the Spurs are unstoppable with Tony playing this way. Let's hope he can keep it up. Defense was not great tonight against a not so good offense but that can be improved. I figured this should be created due to all the Tony hate.

    If Parker can continue to take the defensive focus away from all this weapons we have this team can be unstoppable, especially with him dishing the ball like this and shooting at a high percentage. (Also to mention, Tony did not lead in FG attempts).
    As long as they just go with whoever has the mismatch they will be fine. Nobody has to force anything cause one of them is bound to have a big advantage everynight.

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    I have been saying this for over a year, if Parker plays the way he has over the past two games, he still has 3-4 years of playing at a high level. The fact he went out passing first and had like 7 assist by halftime, the Nuggets didn't collapse as much in the 2nd half and he had a ton of open shots.

    That is why Stockton had 40 point games in his late 30's because teams always respected his passing. Stockton shot like 53% for his career because teams always knew if they collapsed him hard, he would pass out of it, which would more than likely lead to an open shot. This is why he had so many open jumpers. Parker has the ability to play like Stockton, at least offensively, he just needs to maintain the mindset.

    Like I said already, the Spurs will be the NBA Champions if he continues to play like this and barring any injuries to key players.
    From memory and doing a quick internet check I dont think Stockton ever scored 40 points. It doesnt even fit in his nature. best I can find with a quick scan is 36 points ...so the above about 40 point games late in his 30's seems false. But I hated Utah so maybe I am wrong and you are right ...
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    Did you watch the game last night. Parker made some very Stockton like passes last night. I have seen Parker play like a passing PG and he is capable of it. And Parker jumpshot is just as good as Stockton's. Yeah, his 3pt shot isn't, but again, Parker has more speed than Stockton ever possessed.

    Parker has excellent vision. Yeah, it not good as Manu's, Diaw or Stockton, but its a notch below it.

    Big thing about Parker, was he came out looking to pass first last night. It's not that Parker's vision is bad, its that he looking to shoot first. So the passing lanes and angles close before he can take advantage because he presses to score as oppose to pass when the lane is available.

    Prime example last night was the last 3 by Kawhi. Parker is running down the floor. His defender is trailing. Faried is the only guy b/n him and basket. He speeds up and AS SOON AS Faried takes a step back to defend the lane, he shots the pass to Kawhi for the open corner 3. That is something you expect from Manu. Old Parker would have drove it to the basket and once the shot wasn't available pass it to Kawhi.

    Last night game was very promising of the type of player Parker can be if he becomes a pass first type of PG for the remainder of his career.
    With guys like Manu, Diaw, Nash, Stockton a good portion of their assists come from their vision/improvisation. Rique doesn't really do that. His way is simpler (penetrate, kick out) and relies more on the spacing the system creates. He's had high assist seasons/games but they're more a testament to his ability to penetrate and break down defenses than they are his vision.

    You also can't compare a guy who's range only extends to midrange to one of the greatest shooters of all-time. That's insane.

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    yeah and then aldridge missed 10 of his next 12 shots. parker had 4 assists before making a shot himself. but keep reaching. because lol porker, amirite?
    That is exactly the point. Parker created, got others involved. Then scored himself when the defense shifted. What else would you want a PG to do? He played a superior game tonight. If you are hating on Parker for last night's game it is not based on reality.

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    From memory and doing a quick internet check I dont think Stockton ever scored 40 points. It doesnt even fit in his nature. best I can find with a quick scan is 36 points ...so the above about 40 point games late in his 30's seems false. But I hated Utah so maybe I am wrong and you are right ...
    It might not have been 40, but he came close. I know one game in the playoffs I watched he had like 38 points.

    Notice how Hakeem and Barkley hardly close out on Stockton drives. WHY??? Because they knew if they came over to early it was going to be a wide open shot for their man. This is how Parker played last night. He came out passing first and Nuggets were collapsing him early on the drive and it led to a lot of open and easy buckets for the Spurs. Nuggets started to play off him on the PnR role and Parker went to town.

    Stockton was 35 year old here.



    And another video at 36 year's old. I watched both games. Notice HOW NOBODY collapsed on Stockton's drive or picks. WHY AGAIN????? Because you just didn't as Stockton would eat you alive with his passing. Parker did that last night and it was a sight for sore eyes.


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    With guys like Manu, Diaw, Nash, Stockton a good portion of their assists come from their vision/improvisation. Rique doesn't really do that. His way is simpler (penetrate, kick out) and relies more on the spacing the system creates. He's had high assist seasons/games but they're more a testament to his ability to penetrate and break down defenses than they are his vision.

    You also can't compare a guy who's range only extends to midrange to one of the greatest shooters of all-time. That's insane.
    Again, if you watched last night's game, he did just that. I am not comparing Parker to Stockton. Stockton is the best fundamental PG of all time and 3rd all time on my list. I am saying he needs to play like Stockton, LOOKING TO PASS FIRST. A lot of his passes came off early in his penetration when the passing lane was open. That behind the back pass to Duncan was awesome and he did it about 16 ft from the basket across the lane. Parker of old hardly took advantage of passes like this.

    But, because he took advantage of it last night, it forced Denver's help defenders to stay on their man when Parker did drive, which allowed him a lot of open shots and uncontested layups and post ups.

    As said this last year, if Parker would just become a pass first PG, he would get a ton of open looks because of it. Last night was the best night Parker has had in a long time as a true PG.

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    A lot of his passes came off early in his penetration when the passing lane was open. That behind the back pass to Duncan was awesome and he did it about 16 ft from the basket across the lane. Parker of old hardly took advantage of passes like this.
    Exactly. It was 'drive then pass', now it's 'pass then drive'. I noticed Parker has added quite a few "fancy" passes to his repertoire. He usually got his assists from rather straightforward "kick-out to the open man" kind of passes, hardly highlight material. But recently he gets at least a couple of assists each game with more "point guard" passes that take the defense by surprise.

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    Krew formula:

    Parker has a good game: "Yah, but it was against a crappy team."
    Parker has a good game against a good team: "Regular season. Let's see what he can do in the playoffs."
    Parker has a good game in the playoffs: "Let's see if he comes through when it matters most."
    Parker has a good game 7 (ex: Mavs): "He should have played better earlier, we shouldn't have gone to 7."
    Parker plays good for a whole series (WCF 2013): "Yah but can he play in the Finals?"
    Parker plays good in the Finals (FMVP): "Boobie Gibson."

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    From memory and doing a quick internet check I dont think Stockton ever scored 40 points. It doesnt even fit in his nature. best I can find with a quick scan is 36 points ...so the above about 40 point games late in his 30's seems false. But I hated Utah so maybe I am wrong and you are right ...
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