Parker Makes this Team Go!

[daslicer]

Yup, and that was crazy. But he's a good passer not that great.

I disagree for their positions they are great passers.

[Kawhitstorm]

PG is too inefficient. KD isn't really a playmaker. LeBron is really the only SF that can be both a scorer and playmaker but he's a once in a generation player.

KD was a pretty darn good playmaker when he played w/o Westbrook & won the MVP. Paul George plays in a ty offensive system w/ ty players, put him on the Spurs & he would be much more efficient. David West/Hibbert were his wingmen

[Kawhitstorm]

Agree. Blake is the best PF in the league right now. Too bad the Clippers ran up against the Warriors and that derailed them. They will be fine though going forward. I remember when it wasn't even a comparison - LMA over Blake no question. Now it's clearly Blake over LMA.

Blake passed LMA in 2013-14.

[YGWHI]

put him on the Spurs & he would be much more efficient

Well, people said the same about LMA and still...









Just kidding. He'll be fine, Kawhi'll be fine, the Spurs will be fine.

[Kawhitstorm]

Nope. Disgaree with the idea that he has to run an offense in a team where Parker and Ginobili plays. Does not work like that tbh. The team sure dont operate like that.

Hes a 20ppg scorer-best defender in the league. Not even sure if you can name me a player that was 20ppg and best defender in the league and wasnt considered top 5.

No one in their right mind, unless you are a bulls fan would rate butler over kawhi...Butler is not even top 10 let alone 12...so you want to trade a top 7 player at worst for a top 15. Sounds stupid to me.

Butler is the best SG in the game over wack ass Harden.

[apalisoc_9]

Butler is the best SG in the game over wack ass Harden.

You are a smart dude man. Dont let emotions get through you bro..I wont be able to name 6 players that could have led last year rockets to a 2nd seed and wcf...

Harden will eventually play at his superstar level.

Even the most delusioanl of bulls fan would rate harden over butler.

[Calispursfan11]

Butler is the best SG in the game over wack ass Harden.

Absolutely. Harden is garbage, inefficient and can't/or doesn't play a lick of defense.

[apalisoc_9]

I hate the beard but seriously name me players that could have done what harden did last year to houston..

[100%duncan]

Op must be kiddi g. These takes tbh

[Kawhitstorm]

I hate the beard but seriously name me players that could have done what harden did last year to houston..

That was LAST season & he was on the bench when his team's season was on the line against the Clippers along w/ going 2-11 & committing 12 TOs when they got eliminated, what a great season he had. When the refs aren't blowing the whistle dude isn't better than Butler, he went 4-18 w/ 4TOs this season against the same Warriors Butler styled on. He has reverted to being the worst defender in the league which is a major issue. His 2014-15 season is looking as flukish as Lance Stephenson's 2013-14 season.

Harden is a better volume scorer but Butler RIGHT NOW is the best all-around shooting guard.

[apalisoc_9]

That was LAST season & he was on the bench when his team's season was on the line against the Clippers along w/ going 2-11 & committing 12 TOs when they got eliminated, what a great season he had. When the refs aren't blowing the whistle dude isn't better than Butler, he went 4-18 w/ 4TOs this season against the same Warriors Butler styled on. He has reverted to being the worst defender in the league which is a major issue. His 2014-15 season is looking as flukish as Lance Stephenson's 2013-14 season.

Harden is a better volume scorer but Butler RIGHT NOW is the best all-around shooting guard.

As a spursfan, you should know no player is in the world is free of bad playoff series. Manu, Tim, kawhi all had their fair share. Jordan couldnt even beat a young Magics team in 95. happens bro.

You still didnt name 7 players that could have done what harden did last year for his team.

I mean Butler is scoring less than Kawhi in significantly more minutes and you expect him to be better than harden?..

Cmon man, he cant even score at kawhi rate or his efficiency

And now you put him over a legit top 7 player in the league. No on in their right mind would rank butler in the 7, not even top 12
l.

[Kawhitstorm]

As a spursfan, you should know no player is in the world is free of bad playoff series. Manu, Tim, kawhi all had their fair share. Jordan couldnt even beat a young Magics team in 95. happens bro.

You still didnt name 7 players that could have done what harden did last year for his team.

I mean Butler is scoring less than Kawhi in significantly more minutes and you expect him to be better than harden?..

Cmon man, he cant even score at kawhi rate or his efficiency

And now you put him over a legit top 7 player in the league. No on in their right mind would rank butler in the 7, not even top 12
l.

Jerry Stackhouse once averaged 29 & led the league in total points scored; there have been All-Star players w/ a lightning in a bottle seasons.

James Harden has had 4 consecutive mediocre playoff series dating back to the 2012:
-2012: Finals
-2013: Shot 39% & averaged 5 TOs against OKC
-2014: Got outplayed by the same Damien Gizzard that Porker took to school
-2015: Already covered it

I'm not sure what you are talking about saying Jimmy Buckets isn't an efficient scorer b/c he plays more minutes when he's basically averaging the same as Kawhi while taking 2 LESS shots.

-James Harden is an overhyped Gilbert Arenas.
-Jimmy Butler is Pippen lite (not as good a playmaker/rebounder)
-Kawhi is a richman's Ron Artest
-Paul George is T-Mac 2.0 (Rockets version)

B/w Kawhi/Butler/George:
-Kawhi is the best rebounder/defender/postup player
-George is the best shooter/scorer/most athletic
-Butler is the best driver
-Butler/George are equivalent playmakers but Kawhi lags behind

[Kawhitstorm]

LOL THE BEST PF ???????????

Anthony Davis is the best PF in the league when he's healthy & playing w/ competent teammates.

[Kawhitstorm]

BANDWAGON FANS,BLAME KAWHI BECAUSE HE PLAY 1 SO FAR SO GD GAME & THE SPURS LOST

FOH, read before you open your pie hole.

[Kawhitstorm]

NO,AD IS OVERRATED & OVERHYPE

RICH MAN ARTEST

Eat & die.

[dabom]

OP is a dumbass. Pop would call you a dumbass.

[TrainOfThought5]

He's not forcing nothing, it's Kawhi/LMA team now.

Do you really want Parker having more shots than them? What a crazy/funny man.

[TrainOfThought5]

Kawhi is a top 5 player in the league..7 at worst. Kawhi wont run the offense, thats going against what the spurs are trying to do.

Thats going to hold us back. With Parker playing Jekel and Hyde and Manu missing half the season, Kawhi needs to improve his ballhandling, vision, and learn to orchestrate the offense and distribute the ball.

[Horse]

Pop is trying to force the Spurs to be Kawhi's and LMA's team. It's only had marginal success so far as we saw tonight. The problem is that we need Tony to get his. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Therefore, he needs at least 15-18 shot attempts per game. It has always been a known fact that Parker is the head of the snake and if he isn't given the opportunity to penetrate and carve up the defense as he is accustomed to doing, then we are at a disadvantage. Sure he was 3-10 tonight, but he's more of a volume shooter like Kobe. Kawhi and LMA can be efficient with under 10 shots per game so I say just let them get their stuff in the flow and allow 10-12 more shots a night for Tony. Then you will see us wreak some havoc. Vive la France!

I'm in no way a Leonard vs. Parker got but did you see what happened last night when Tony tried to take over?

[Horse]

As a spursfan, you should know no player is in the world is free of bad playoff series. Manu, Tim, kawhi all had their fair share. Jordan couldnt even beat a young Magics team in 95. happens bro.

You still didnt name 7 players that could have done what harden did last year for his team.

I mean Butler is scoring less than Kawhi in significantly more minutes and you expect him to be better than harden?..

Cmon man, he cant even score at kawhi rate or his efficiency

And now you put him over a legit top 7 player in the league. No on in their right mind would rank butler in the 7, not even top 12
l.

Harden had a ton of help and I don't mean his teammates

[Calispursfan11]

Thats going to hold us back. With Parker playing Jekel and Hyde and Manu missing half the season, Kawhi needs to improve his ballhandling, vision, and learn to orchestrate the offense and distribute the ball.

True that Kawhi needs to improve his ballhandling. But he will never have better handles than Tony or Jimmy Butler, tbh so he'll be incapable of running the offense even for short stretches. He has a lot of facets to his game but poor ballhandling and passing are what's going to hold him back from true superstar Kobe/Lebron and soon Jimmy Butler level. Kawhi is simply not very good at these things and I don't see that aspect of his game growing much at this point.

If you guys are unhappy with Parker at the point, then think of a viable alternative to run the offense. There is none on this team. Manu is great this year but he's gonna play 20 mins a game and sit every other game. Patty is a lightsout instant offense but garbage as a playmaker. McCallumand Kyle are too green and Kyle definitely needs a couple more stints in the D League before being put back in an NBA uniform. He's bad.

[Calispursfan11]

OP is a dumbass. Pop would call you a dumbass.

You can't handle the truth is all and you are acting out.

[Calispursfan11]

I'm in no way a Leonard vs. Parker got but did you see what happened last night when Tony tried to take over?

Spurs need to have the mentality that Tony takes over from the getgo and let him dominate the ball starting in the first quarter, not waiting to see if everyone else is meh, then and only then letting Tony go to work. He needs to get his throughout. That's how we can punish teams. If you look at the way he's playing this year, his capabilities are really still at a high level. Pop's conscious effort to treat him like a second stringer role player will not work.

[apalisoc_9]

Jerry Stackhouse once averaged 29 & led the league in total points scored; there have been All-Star players w/ a lightning in a bottle seasons.

James Harden has had 4 consecutive mediocre playoff series dating back to the 2012:
-2012: Finals
-2013: Shot 39% & averaged 5 TOs against OKC
-2014: Got outplayed by the same Damien Gizzard that Porker took to school
-2015: Already covered it

I'm not sure what you are talking about saying Jimmy Buckets isn't an efficient scorer b/c he plays more minutes when he's basically averaging the same as Kawhi while taking 2 LESS shots.

-James Harden is an overhyped Gilbert Arenas.
-Jimmy Butler is Pippen lite (not as good a playmaker/rebounder)
-Kawhi is a richman's Ron Artest
-Paul George is T-Mac 2.0 (Rockets version)

B/w Kawhi/Butler/George:
-Kawhi is the best rebounder/defender/postup player
-George is the best shooter/scorer/most athletic
-Butler is the best driver
-Butler/George are equivalent playmakers but Kawhi lags behind

You are comparing harden to jerry stockhouse?

[KL2]

KD was a pretty darn good playmaker when he played w/o Westbrook & won the MVP. Paul George plays in a ty offensive system w/ ty players, put him on the Spurs & he would be much more efficient. David West/Hibbert were his wingmen

Paul George gets a ton of leeway with Indiana, he doesn't play championship ball, he doesn't follow a system. He can put up whatever he wants because in the end it doesn't matter, nobody gets up to even play his team. He played on one of the youngest, most athletic teams in the league, and that it's self is a system that a player like Leonard has never had.

Both Butler and George are products of the East. During George's "superstar" year he needed 7 games to get out of 1st against a 38 win Hawks team, and 6 against a 42 win Wizards team. Just last year Butler needed 6 games to get out the 1st against a 41 win Bucks team, I can imagine the flack a player like Leonard would be getting struggling to beat these teams lol.