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    "But I was jumping for all kinds of joy when my Manu said he was just chilling this summer."
    Isn't Argentina already pre-qualified for the next olympics because they won gold? Manu doesn't have to play. You can bet that if they needed him to qualify for the olympics he would be on the floor.

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    I tend to make an exception for the Olympics. The Olympics has been around long before the NBA.
    Basketball EC is played from 1935

    And we do appreciate the improved players that the NBA is returning to us for international compe ion - except for Rasho; Pop totally ruined his shot
    Don't forget Milic - he was totaly messed up when he came back from NBA and still can't hit a jumper

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    I'm getting really tired of this International Game hate. If you as Spurs fans don't like it, then ask the team owner or the front office to stop hiring international players, because most of the players won't quit on their home nations.

    As Slomo said, most of this players have developed their game with taxpayer money, but even if that wasn't the case, they still should feel honoured by representing their country, and if the NBA doesn't like it, they can get (not-so overpaid) contracts in Europe.

    Exactly? Isnt that the way most International players are noticed in the first place?
    Some do, others don't. European club basketball is constantly scouted by the NBA, but other compe ions like Asia or Africa, players don't have a big name until they play with their National Team. What International Game does provide, is how well that player is built for the big stage.

    Isn't Argentina already pre-qualified for the next olympics because they won gold? Manu doesn't have to play. You can bet that if they needed him to qualify for the olympics he would be on the floor.
    Exactly.

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    Bah Tony needs the Gold medal in 08... in case Eva dumps him..

    Because of course he can never find a hot chick without oh. nm. BLEEEM..

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    So after we trained these guys through our amateur club system (that is financed with taxpayer money btw) and contribute to making them capable of playing in the NBA (for which we received no compensation financial or otherwise) now it's hands off????

    You're obviously concerned for Holt's money, well you shouldn't be since they have extra insurance coverage when they play abroad.

    Representing your country is an honor and a privilege. US players have that opportunity, why not others?
    I could care less about Holt's money (except when Marcus wants to foolishly spend it on 3rd string players). If these players get injured, then they can't contribute to the Spurs and that is my main concern.

    Sure, you train the guys and then they move on the the best league in the world to play for a very handsome salary. The players should then be loyal to those that are paying their salary and not risk injury and fatigue playing during the summer.

    This includes USA players. This is not just something against Slovenia or Argentina - all countries need to use amateurs.

    You foreigners have a air of en lement that you bring to the board and it gets old. We are all Spurs fans first and foremost and therefore couldn't give a if Tony or Rasho not playing causes France or Slovenia to lose a Euro game. Deal with it.

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    You foreigners have a air of en lement that you bring to the board and it gets old. We are all Spurs fans first and foremost and therefore couldn't give a if Tony or Rasho not playing causes France or Slovenia to lose a Euro game. Deal with it.
    Ur take has also gotten old as this thread grew. The intenational players will still be representing their country if they feel like it whether u like it or not. deal w/it

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    I completely agree with 50. It must be sad that the hopes of a country gotta sit on the back of rasho. Just shows how good ur little international teams are if rasho is the frickin best player out there. Blow it out your ass and watch the spurs win a real le again this year while your mvp rides the bench. Later es.

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    I completely agree with 50. It must be sad that the hopes of a country gotta sit on the back of rasho. Just shows how good ur little international teams are if rasho is the frickin best player out there. Blow it out your ass and watch the spurs win a real le again this year while your mvp rides the bench. Later es.
    Later Hoe

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    He he he like u hold weight punk!!!

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    I want to see the Spurs doing their upmost to win NBA championships and that includes guys resting in the offseason as well as not fooslishly losing qualitytalent over chump change.

    If you aren't about that, stop your whining.

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    I want to see the Spurs doing their upmost to win NBA championships and that includes guys resting in the offseason as well as not fooslishly losing qualitytalent over chump change.

    If you aren't about that, stop your whining.
    Tony has the right to play in the olympics just like everyone else on the Spurs roster...

    Stop skirting around the reason he is in France....

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    I want to see the Spurs doing their upmost to win NBA championships and that includes guys resting in the offseason as well as not fooslishly losing qualitytalent over chump change.

    If you aren't about that, stop your whining.


    Exactly, now im not saying that i dont want our foreign players to be succesful in all aspects of the game but my priority is the spurs. Ur priority can be your country, and i completely understand that, cause i love to see the U.S. do well. But at some point u have got to draw a line and figure out which is more important. Spurs/nba or national play. To me its the Spurs, and i dont enjoy watching the players that should be resting beating the out of each other. Ginobili and tim might have one last year but, at what expense. As i recall timmy was pretty damn worn out and thats not good.

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    by one i mean won sorry

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    Tony has the right to play in the olympics just like everyone else on the Spurs roster...

    Stop skirting around the reason he is in France....

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    Thats cool u stand on ur side of the line ill stand on mine. NBA is important to me National play is important to u, just dont get all bent out of shape when the NBA fans worry about their players.

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    Tony has the right to play in the olympics just like everyone else on the Spurs roster...

    Stop skirting around the reason he is in France....
    Amen

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    I could care less about Holt's money (except when Marcus wants to foolishly spend it on 3rd string players). If these players get injured, then they can't contribute to the Spurs and that is my main concern.

    Sure, you train the guys and then they move on the the best league in the world to play for a very handsome salary. The players should then be loyal to those that are paying their salary and not risk injury and fatigue playing during the summer.

    This includes USA players. This is not just something against Slovenia or Argentina - all countries need to use amateurs.

    You foreigners have a air of en lement that you bring to the board and it gets old. We are all Spurs fans first and foremost and therefore couldn't give a if Tony or Rasho not playing causes France or Slovenia to lose a Euro game. Deal with it.
    This is a lot different than your first two posts. If loyalty is dictated only by money then their loyalty can not be only to the Spurs (or any other pro club) because their current contract is not the only reason for their financial well being.

    If your point is that you want amateur in international compe ion then make it, without the "we pay you - we own you" theory.

    "Air of en lement"????
    "You foreigners"????

    You obviously have a problem with us, but let me tell what I think you must do now. You must provide me with an explanation of what my (our) "air" is - together with a sample post illustrating it. Not because I'm en led to it, but because it's the only way you can prove you actually know what it means.

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    Parker learning the hardway = 1) Tony blowing off Coach Pop and going to play for France against his advice, 2) learning that he isn't the player that he thought he was when surrounded by inferior talent. 3) trying to make excuses for ty play by blaming his poor 23 year old body (that any grown man can tell you only takes about 3 hours to recover from damn near anything.)

    I swear. For the life of me I'll never understand why so many Spurs fans idolize this guy.
    duncan PLAYED FOR THE USA

    SO IS HE A IDIOT TO ICE
    IT EFFECTED HIS GAME
    ALSO MANU DID AND IT EFFECTED HIS NBA GAMES

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    Here's the post showing you the air of en lement that a lot of international posters around here post with. Like this is the Slovenian message board or something and that we should be more concerned with the Spurs players representing their national teams. Well, this is a Spurs message board and we care first and foremost about the Spurs well being and having OUR contracted players healthy and rested come November regardless of how it affected the EC or Olympics.

    Now, you may feel as though I'm insensitive, but so be it. I'm selfish and I want the Spurs at 100% come regular season.

    I don't want Duncan playing for the US, Manu for Argentina, or Tony for France.

    (PS - I really don't care if Rasho does or not because it's almost impossible to wear out a towel boy).

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    Here's the post showing you the air of en lement that a lot of international posters around here post with. Like this is the Slovenian message board or something and that we should be more concerned with the Spurs players representing their national teams. Well, this is a Spurs message board and we care first and foremost about the Spurs well being and having OUR contracted players healthy and rested come November regardless of how it affected the EC or Olympics.

    Now, you may feel as though I'm insensitive, but so be it. I'm selfish and I want the Spurs at 100% come regular season.

    I don't want Duncan playing for the US, Manu for Argentina, or Tony for France.

    (PS - I really don't care if Rasho does or not because it's almost impossible to wear out a towel boy).
    Screw France, Slovenia, Argentina, the USA, and any other country. Go find some amateurs and leave the NBA players alone.
    Don't on my country and I will stop posting

    Untill then

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    Once again i pretty much completely agree with 50.

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    I wish the Spurs would put something in player's contracts that banned them from playing basketball for the national teams. The Spurs pay for the contracts and they need to stay focused on playing for the team that writes their paychecks. I can't go work in the evenings for another company in the same industry as my current job because it's a conflict of interest.

    Screw France, Slovenia, Argentina, the USA, and any other country. Go find some amateurs and leave the NBA players alone.
    And this is your post preceeding the one you quoted. Anyway someone telling you to STFU is hardly an example of an "air of en lement" (or do you feel you are en led to not being told to STFU?). Thank you for proving my point.

    Now, you may feel as though I'm insensitive, but so be it. I'm selfish and I want the Spurs at 100% come regular season.

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    50 cent =

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    And this is your post preceeding the one you quoted. Anyway someone telling you to STFU is hardly an example of an "air of en lement" (or do you feel you are en led to not being told to STFU?). Thank you for proving my point.
    I think it's basically human decency to not tell someone to STFU when you are guests in their forum. Obviously, you are not a Spurs fan - just a fan of a player from your country that happens to play for the Spurs.

    You guys remind me of Taruky - the Hedo buttlicker. If Rasho got traded, you would all of a sudden have no interest in the Spurs. Just posin' as a Spurs fan for the time being.

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