Kawhi/LMA combo not as effective as Kobe/Shaq???

[Horse]

That's reasonable. The lakers beat ALL former champions or future champions in the 80s. Plus the teams they beat were not as great as the lakers, but "jokes?". Dallas in the 80s with blackmon, perkins, harper, and aguire were jokes? jazz??? portland? So none of those teams would have survived in the 2000s west during the lakers run? And we can argue that the lakers were gifted 3 finals appearances. 2000 portland. Portland up big in the 4th then the refs just swallow their whistles and the Lakers make the miraculous comeback as people rewrite history in forgetting what really happened(same thing happened to Boston in the 2010 finals in the 4th). 2002 vs the kings in game 6(no explanation needed. if I need to explain, you're too young to remember. Google it). And that takes us to the 2004 second round game 5 in which Derek Fisher's ass was allowed to catch a basketball, turn around and fade away in .4 seconds on our home court. It was obvious the winner of that series were gonna kick the out of the timberwolves. So yes, Kobe and Shaq has benefitted from ty officiating in their years. , They damn near let iverson take 3 games against them. They won 4-1, but 2 of those other games could have gone either way. Plus Mutombo's dumb ass requested to play shaq 1 on 1 . hahahaha. That didn't help

And let's not forget how many of those games/series started with Tony and Manu getting go the rim at will only for these games/series to turn dramatically after phil started ing and moaning.

[daslicer]

And let's not forget how many of those games/series started with Tony and Manu getting go the rim at will only for these games/series to turn dramatically after phil started ing and moaning.

That always drove me nuts whenever the Lakers would lose a playoff game Phil would about the refs and suddenly the Lakers got a bunch of phantom calls the next game. That was one of the biggest reasons I hated Spur-Lakers playoff series because I knew the spurs would have to overcome some bs refereeing. If you take away Phil's ability to influence refs than he becomes a lot less effective. On a sidenote it was also annoying when Laker players would about the refs after losses than scrubs like Fox would criticizing other teams for calling out the refs by saying "They need to shut up and stop whining." I have never seen a team that whined and complained so much about the refs along from benefiting from them like the Shaq-Kobe-Jackson era Lakers.

[Sean Cagney]

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