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Agree. There are many factors that play into winning a le, chemistry, injuries, player/coach performances, great opponents...
Oh my Celts. We was going places.
Agree. There are many factors that play into winning a le, chemistry, injuries, player/coach performances, great opponents...
I think some of you underestimate what Tim and Manu bring to the table.
Considering Tim is #4 in mins played on the team at 26.6 and Manu is #7 at 19.7, what they produce is well above most NBA players.
Here is a bit of numbers.
To start with lets go with the most valuable advanced metrics.
PER and WIN share.
Tim is at #47 overall in WS at 2.9 and Manu is #64 with 2.5, NO PLAYER in the league is higher than them in the list with equal or less minutes played than them, top 15 players in WS have at least played over 1000 minutes while tim is at 750 and Manu at 570.
In our team they are #4 and #5 in WS. Kawhi, Tony and LA are the top 3.
Translated into a WS per 48 minutes Tim is at #33, and Manu is at #10 considering players that play at least 15 mins a game.
PER is another stat that is used to measure the level of players and what they bring when they are on court, this season Tim is at 17.1 (5th in the Spurs) and Manu is at 20.0 (2nd on the team).
Now about raw production.
Tim Duncan, 4th on the team in Minutes played at 26.6 is:
5th in scoring at 8.7
3rd in rebounding at 7.8
3rd in assists at 3.0
6th in steals at 0.76
1st in blocks at 1.38
Ginobili #7 in minutes played at 19.7 is:
4th in scoring at 10.1
7thin rebounding at 2.9
2nd in assists at 3.5
2nd in steals at 1.0
13th on blocks at 0.07 (here Manu dropped a lot)
Hope some here use this summary to understand that even when they dont play much, you have two all stars right there waiting to explode in crunch time or when the young guys are overwhelmed by situations. These gus can put you over the top in PO situations and when they are gone the team might be still a contender but will find a lot of trouble getting to the conference finals and nba finals.
Ditty actually mentioned this before but Hill is very interested in returning to the Spurs after his contract is up. Ditty has legit sources too. He called Aldridge to Spurs way before free agency started.
I think with all the talent we have and Simmons bringing that energy to the team we can afford to lose Manu to retirement.
Tim might outlast Tony. I'd probably vote zero based on that.
That's only another 3 years at max. Player option after 2 (Duncan very likely retiring within that timeframe).
So we're lookin at Pop pretty much for sure gone in 3 years, Manu and Duncan definitely gone before then (by end of next year most likely). Possibility of all 3 and Aldridge possibly gone by the end of next season.
When Duncan goes, we will not "continue without skipping a beat". By time they're even remotely recovering Pop will be gone and likely LMA too. There are tons of question marks in the near future so it's best to enjoy what we have now imo.
Championships after Tim Duncan
Prediction: win or lose, 40 year-old TD will be our second best player in this season playoffs..
Championships after Tim Duncan
Prediction: win or lose, 40 year-old TD will be our second best player in this season playoffs..
Umm Manu playing like a turd? The scenario is without Manu too got.
Yall just saw a glimpse..It is all on Timmy, and to lesser extent Manu...
Everything went south when that second knee gave out..
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