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so you don't want parker to take layups if he gets one?
if teams play to our tendencies and give us layups to parker or uncontested mid-range shots to LA in the last 2 minutes, I think our offense is fine.
As i have said multiple times, the spurs offense relies on how teams react to generate movement. And thats how offense in general work.
The problem with the Parker PnRs is that teams arent reacting and just allowing them to go 2 on 2. Its pretty concerning because the team dont use parker as much in the first 3 quarters as they do in the 4th.
From my POV, its just teams taking advantage of Parker tendencies...
so you don't want parker to take layups if he gets one?
if teams play to our tendencies and give us layups to parker or uncontested mid-range shots to LA in the last 2 minutes, I think our offense is fine.
Parker now is 77 all time in scoring
I guess he does he sucks though��
dont bother he will just call you stupid or a or something else lacking in intelligence since he can't handle real debate unless people already agree with him.
So Affalo makes 2 incredible 3 pointers, Kawhi doesn't get the obvious foul call on Anthony and Parker makes 3 out 6 shots down the stretch, assists on another and your take is that Parker the bed and the Spurs are doomed. 4 times out of 5 this is a 6 point win or better. Tonight only a 1 point win against a hot team. The only one ting the bed is you with your straight from your asshole take.
Are you ers really still crying about a reg season game? 32-6 and you know they will improve come March-April as they always do.
I agree that the starters haven't gelled enough to be potent enough in offense. That stats bear this out.
Just look at the game, Spurs are able to build separation when the reserves come in, but when the starters start coming in like at the end of the 4th quarter.
Spurs need more variety in the lineup against good teams. The lineup is too predictable.
You are right about the reacting part.
The problem is that with the starting team, it is only Parker that can generate offense and still somehow get other players involved. LMA is a black hole and I don't have any faith that he can score with a high efficiency. West is so much more accurate from the field.
Leonard hasn't been tested yet in these clutch situations, unfortunately you've got Parker on the floor. The team that created defensive problems was with Green, Simmons and Leonard in the wings. Honestly, Spurs need to give the keys to Leonard in clutch time and have the right personnel to have a stout defense.
Bulls may have figured this out with how they have been recently using Butler to run their offense.
This one sequence he was trying to get the ball to Lamarcus. While his attention was focused on that, someone recovered to Kawhi. He took some time to try to get LMA the ball, including passing to Manu at the top to see if a lob was available. Manu passed right back to Tony (not Kawhi), so you can tell they were focused on going to LMA that play. Yea Tony lacked court vision, and those are things to look at, that Pop also will probably point out. But it wasn't a selfish play per se. AT the point Tony got the ball back from Manu, now Kawhi was covered, there was little time in the shot clock and he blew past Lopez for an easy, easy layup.
The one play you may want to criticize is the one right after, when with 10 secs in the shotclock I believe he attempted and failed on a long 2 over Porzingis. That was a bad shot, and he should have passed out of it and let someone else take a shot. It wasn't also like he was trying to attempt to execute a play like he was here.
Regardless, as someone posted, the problems were defensive. Missing one of 4 shots in the clutch is actually not a terrible execution. Kawhi had chances before those last shots (got fouled and jacked up a shot, no call), by the way in a 2 man game with LMA setting the screen, something we all wanted to see and Kawhi wasn't having his best game offensively either.
All in all its a win.
I commend you. That's exactly what is going on in this sequence. I really didn't see it when I watched the game live..
I wish Tony's court vision were better, but it probably isn't going to improve at this stage of his career. He has never had the vision of Manu, but his own vision has served him and the Spurs pretty well through the years. At the end of THIS game he was the player with the freshest legs for either team. He utilized that advantage well, and we won.
Posters argue about our performance/execution in "the clutch", but tbh how many games have we found ourselves in those kind of situations? We have way more blowouts. IMHO, we really haven't had very many clutch situations in order to gain experience in close game/game end execution. The downside of routinely blowing out opponents - and it probably is not serving our playoff preparation very well.
One last observation: This Knick team is improving steadily. Nobody in the Least is going to look forward to meeting them in the playoffs.
Last edited by sasaint; 01-09-2016 at 06:19 PM.
I suspect our NetRtg in the clutch is based on a smaller sample size than any other team in the league. Part of our problem in close/close-out situations is simply that we don't face them very often. It looks to me like Pop is kind of living in the past when he gave the ball to Manu to get a bucket or get to the line. In a somewhat misguided way he has just shoved Tony into that role. Last night, however, Tony came back into the game late and clearly had the freshest legs on the floor. Consequently he did well.
More time to gel relax
OK does this make sense.......The naked pick and roll allows Parker (and Pop) to control clock to the second and minimize TO.
A complex motion play requires more clock and if you have less than finite clock you can't run it unless you've practiced short clock plays.It can also be interrupted by the defense in less predictable ways than the P/R.
Good point
yes. hence the low turnover rate for pnr, and high scoring rate as i mentioned in another thread.
however, kawhi iso has even lower turnover rate and similar effectiveness...
Because we have had so few close games...
We will lose them in the playoffs. Extrapolating from very FEW REGULAR SEASON games with Pop still scheming.
Bravo.
But as the season goes forward and the schedule gets tougher, we will have more opportunities to test our close game strategy/plays/execution. We will have a lot more experience come playoff time.
Thought the thread needed a bump after the Cavs game.
Our execution late was not great, and in addition several of our top guns were misfiring all game. Nonetheless, at the end of our toughest close game of the season we figured out a way to win. It is a good base to build on.
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