This game is an example of of why I've been an advocate of Tony this season.

[SpursFan86]

Pretty sure no one is advocating for Leonard to take 7 shots a game.

[100%duncan]

I think I get your point but Im not sure this game is the perfect example imho. First of all, you cant expect Tony dropping 31 every game in the playoffs, let alone against the dubs defense, and even last year, he looked ty against the Clippers( to be fair to him, he was injured.) Second, do you seriously expect to win in the playoffs against the elite teams when your best player just drops 7? Sure you might eek out a game or two but no, this won't win you more than a game against a good team on May.

For those too re ed to understand. My post is more on Kawhi's needed consistency more than anything else. I agree with Mid that we need Parker to be an elite or decent playmaker, but I dont agree with his example since it's rather unrealistic and not a winning formula against real contenders.

[PopTheGOAT]

"Gib the bawl to Kiwi "

I lol'd tbh. But who ing cares if the other teams have a better 1-2 punch? Spurs are better at everything else. Like 10 players that can score lol. I lol when people say GS has a better bench

[ChumpDumper]

First of all, you cant expect Tony dropping 31 every game in the playoffs, let alone against the dubs defense

Who is expecting this?

[YGWHI]

I think I get your point but Im not sure this game is the perfect example imho. First of all, you cant expect Tony dropping 31 every game in the playoffs, let alone against the dubs defense, and even last year, he looked ty against the Clippers( to be fair to him, he was injured.) Second, do you seriously expect to win in the playoffs against the elite teams when your best player just drops 7? Sure you might eek out a game or two but no, this won't win you more than a game against a good team on May.

For those too re ed to understand. My post is more on Kawhi's needed consistency more than anything else. I agree with Mid that we need Parker to be an elite or decent playmaker, but I dont agree with his example since it's rather unrealistic and not a winning formula against real contenders.

You should know that the Spurs won a ring in 2007 with Tim taking less than 14 FGA and Parker dropping 30 points...

[PopTheGOAT]

Who is expecting this?

Interpreted: If Parker can average more than 8-9 a game, it helps the team. Perhaps, 12-13 a game. And I agree. Don't like the 1-2 punch argument tho

[Xevious]

I think Tony has been doing exactly what the Spurs need of him this year (no complaints, he's been great). It's nice that he can have a throwback game here and there, but this game is a L had we been playing a Western conference playoff team.

[midnightpulp]

Kawhi averages less FGA than Parker per minute on the court this season and that isn't related to Parker's PG spot.

He's getting the touches, though. Not Parker nor anyone else's fault if he doesnt shoot. That actually speaks to Kawhi's bball iq.

[midnightpulp]

I know, people troll Apa and dabom for their bad threads but what's the difference with this thread?

OP makes a thread to celebrate that the best player on the team will be reduced to the corner three and less than 10 FGA per game...This board is ridiculous.

I didn't suggest that all. I think I made it pretty clear that Parker should be the 3rd option in most cases (in certain match ups, Duncan is the better 3rd option).

[midnightpulp]

It's obvious that 31 years old Tim didn't need to develop his offense like Kawhi. Also, I disagree with you about the 10 FGA.
You can't help a player like Kawhi to take the next level in his game with less than 10 FGA per game treating him like he's just in his 3rd season...Sorry, but that sounds stupid.

Kawhi is averaging about 15 shots per game.

This just sounds like more "gib bawl to Kiwi" whining.

[midnightpulp]

I lol'd tbh. But who ing cares if the other teams have a better 1-2 punch? Spurs are better at everything else. Like 10 players that can score lol. I lol when people say GS has a better bench

Role players are typically inconsistent in the playoffs. The beautiful game team ball heights the Spurs reached in 2014 is not typical. My argument is that since teams have a better 1-2 punch, we need to have a better 1-4 punch, and with Parker playing the way he is, I believe our top 4 guys are better than the top 4 guys of other contenders. Removing parker from that equation by giving patty more minutes or turning him into derek fisher is counterproductive.

[100%duncan]

Who is expecting this?

? can you read my whole post? Mid used an example of a very unrealistic game. Do I need to explain much?

[ChumpDumper]

? can you read my whole post? Mid used an example of a very unrealistic game. Do I need to explain much?

Did you read his whole post? He neither expected nor called for this to be the norm.

[YGWHI]

I think Tony has been doing exactly what the Spurs need of him this year (no complaints, he's been great). It's nice that he can have a throwback game here and there, but this game is a L had we been playing a Western conference playoff team.

Parker scoring 30 ppg is a well-proven and successful formula for winning a le, the Spurs did it 8 years ago.

Also, Parker looked so good this season against Beverley, Westbrook, and the rest of playoffs teams in the West. On other hand Kawhi was horrible averaging just 21 points vs Rockets and scoring 32 vs Thunder.

The Spurs just need that kid to score only 7 ppg and let Parker get his 31 and we'll win every game.

[Aztecfan03]

Did you read his whole post? He neither expected nor called for this to be the norm.

I am really wondering if him and others did read it.

[ChumpDumper]

The Spurs just need that kid to score only 7 ppg and let Parker get his 31 and we'll win every game.

Seriously, who do you think is actually saying this?

[100%duncan]

Did you read his whole post? He neither expected nor called for this to be the norm.

Yes I did. He didn't comment on how this game is unrealistic and that this level of Parker is not sustainable. And yet, his le uses it as his example. Don't worry as I said, this ain't no slight on Parker.

[YGWHI]

He's getting the touches, though. Not Parker nor anyone else's fault if he doesnt shoot. That actually speaks to Kawhi's bball iq.

He isn't getting the touches in the last games, like loveforthegame said he doesn't even touch the ball for 5 or 6 minutes in a quarter.

[YGWHI]

I didn't suggest that all. I think I made it pretty clear that Parker should be the 3rd option in most cases (in certain match ups, Duncan is the better 3rd option).

Since you're using this game as example of the way that Parker should be used, and he doubled Kawhi's FGA...I'm not sure how he's the 3rd option in your mind.

In fact, he isn't the 3rd option since he takes more attempts than Kawhi in less minutes in the last games.

[DenialTwist]

He isn't getting the touches in the last games, like loveforthegame said he doesn't even touch the ball for 5 or 6 minutes in a quarter.

I remember last season when Sean ****** even talked about that. Particularly, the Rockets at Spurs game when Parker took a lot of shots and Kawhi was basically iced out of the offense. This is not a good sign. It's not just KL but LMA shouldn't go for long stretches without touching the ball. In the Knicks game, Manu even talked about it and said they should have let LMA take more shots in the 4th quarter. Just like I saw on r/nba, sometimes you just have to say ball movement (when it's not working) and let your best players do their thing and score.

[midnightpulp]

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[steeledl]

Since you're using this game as example of the way that Parker should be used, and he doubled Kawhi's FGA...I'm not sure how he's be the 3rd option in your mind.

In fact, he isn't the 3rd option since he takes more attempts than Kawhi in less minutes in the last games.

The reason Kawhi gets iced out of the offense at times is because he is really just a jump shooter/post up player. He can't create for others in the way that Tony or Manu can when they have the ball in their hands. Sure we could go down and throw it into Kawhi in the post every time but in the long run we will be worse for it and the offense would be stagnant. He has to get his shots in the flow of the game and that means the occasional post ups for him and taking open jumpers created by others.

The biggest parts of his game that he needs to improve this off season if he wants to take that next step is becoming a better ball handler and creator.... then you would see more offense ran through him.

[loveforthegame]

He's getting the touches, though. Not Parker nor anyone else's fault if he doesnt shoot. That actually speaks to Kawhi's bball iq.

I have to disagree here a bit. Sure Leonard has passed up some shots (who hasn't) he should have taken but no way is he involved the way he was say a month ago. I think it's the same argument we had early in the season when Aldridge was not involved.

They're making an effort to get Aldridge going early and often. He's doing crazy work too. It's hard to complain. But I am concerned with Leonard being parked at the 3 point line. Most nights it's not an issue because Leonard's shown he can get hot at any time. But it's a glaring problem when he's struggling. A bad habit even when he's on. What plays do they run for him? The alley oop. His post ups are almost non existent recently as well.

How many teams plant their best player at the 3 point line? It's absolutely frustrating.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes I did. He didn't comment on how this game is unrealistic and that this level of Parker is not sustainable. And yet, his le uses it as his example. Don't worry as I said, this ain't no slight on Parker.

So he didn't say it was realistic or sustainable at all.

[dabom]

These porker gots still in here holding that loss.

Thread was over after I shat all over OP and catcrew.