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    Brendan Haywood played the last of his 13 NBA seasons with David Blatt, LeBron James and the rest of the Cleveland Cavaliers, so he knew the dynamics in the room as Blatt made his way as a rookie NBA head coach in 2014-15.

    Based on that, and what he learned from Cleveland contacts he had maintained inside and outside the organization, the former center was less surprised the news that Blatt was fired Friday by the Cavaliers than by its timing.

    He shared his thoughts on the Cavs’ dramatic move in an interview on Sirius XM’s NBA Today channel.

    “From what I was hearing, David Blatt kind of lost the team,” Haywood told hosts Justine Termine and former NBA player Eddie Johnson. “Then there were differences about what guys should be playing and what guys weren’t playing, from a management-coaching standpoint".

    “When you throw in those type of things combined with the fact that Tyronn Lue already had a lot of power in the organization, had a lot of traction, and a lot of people that were there already viewed him as the coach, these type of things happen.”

    Lue, 38, the Cavs’ associate coach was promoted to Blatt’s position Friday, agreeing to a new multi-year deal. There had been reports last season that Cleveland players heeded Lue’s instructions, confided in him and leaned more on his advice than on Blatt’s.

    Haywood, 36, spent most of his career with Washington, won an NBA championship with Dallas in 2011 and was with Charlotte for one season before arriving in Cleveland in July 2014 in a trade that also delivered shooter Mike Miller. He mostly served as an insurance policy, logging 119 minutes in 22 appearances, but was a witness to the team’s business from within.

    “It’s unfortunate because David Blatt’s a good guy,” the 7-footer said. “He was in first place. I’ve never seen a coach in first place fired. And on top of that, they’re in first place and their second-best player [Kyrie Irving] didn’t play most of the first part of the season.”

    But there were legitimate reasons for the change that Haywood specified in the satellite radio interview. Among his charges: Blatt had a double standard toward James that other Cavaliers players resented.

    “Coach Blatt was very hesitant to challenge LeBron James,” Haywood said. “It was one of those situations where, being a rookie coach, and LeBron being bigger than life, it was a little too much for him. I remember we had James Jones [talk] to Coach about how, ‘Hey, you can’t just skip over when LeBron James makes a mistake in the film room.’ Because we all see it".

    “And we’re like, ‘Hey, you didn’t say anything about that. You’re going to correct when Matthew Dellavedova‘s not in the right spot. You’re going to say something when Tristan Thompson‘s not in the right spot. Well, we see a fast break and LeBron didn’t get back on defense or there’s a rotation and he’s supposed to be there, and you just keep rolling the film and the whole room is quiet.’ We see that as players. That’s when … as a player, you start to lose respect for a coach.

    “Slowly but surely, that respect started chipping away where he would kind of be scared to correct LeBron in film sessions. When he would call every foul for LeBron in practice. Those type of things add up. Guys are like, ‘C’mon man, are you scared of him?’ ”

    Blatt did not meet with reporters Friday, instead releasing a statement through his agents. It read in part: “I’d like to thank [owner] Dan Gilbert and [general manager] David Griffin for giving me this opportunity and am honored to have worked with an amazing group of players from LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love through our entire roster.”

    The flashpoints that marked Blatt’s first season in Cleveland – his attempt to call a timeout that the Cavaliers didn’t have left late in a playoff game against Chicago, drawing up a crunch-time play against the Bulls that James vetoed because it didn’t put the ball in his hands, assorted incidents of bad body language by the Cavs superstar relative to his coach – were largely missing this season.

    But according to Haywood, they weren’t replaced by the positives needed from the head coach of an NBA championship contender. That’s why he considered Cleveland management’s move Friday to be fair.

    “I remember last year telling somebody on the team, ‘I love David Blatt. But if we’re in a close game, he can’t help us,’ ” Haywood said on Sirius XM. “That’s not a shot at Blatt. But … David Blatt can’t come to a huddle and draw up a play that would get us a good shot. David Blatt doesn’t understand sometimes subs ution patterns.

    “The mistake he made against the Bulls when he didn’t have the ball in LeBron’s hands at the end of the game… There were obvious mistakes he was making, and you start to see it as a player, where ‘We’re going to have to win this on our own, because he can’t do for us what Gregg Popovich can do for the Spurs. He can’t take advantage of a mismatch the way Steve Kerr did in the NBA Finals – Steve Kerr made it so it was hard for us to play James Jones. They attacked him every time he was in the game.”

    Actually, every coach in the NBA would attack James Jones with whomever he was guarding, but Haywood was on a roll.

    “Blatt didn’t feel the game like that, and those mistakes can get you beat. When the goal is championship or bust and you don’t think that coach can get you to a championship or help you win a championship, then that’s what has to be done.


    “I honestly think they’re a better team. I have no ill will toward David, I hope he gets another job. But as a guy who was there last year, I think Tyronn Lue will do a better job.”

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    maybe referring to ohio state.
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    Fat Horse reporting that the firing took Lebron as a surprise.


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    Tough situation for Blatt

    How can you run the team and hold Lebron accountable if Dan Gilbert and the rest of the organization are Lebron's es?

    Funniest thing in the world is the Cavs GM saying that he fired Blatt because he felt that he was underachieving (30-11 and 1st seed in the East) LOL. Guess what, the team was underachieving with Lue as an assistant coach too.

    So you fire a coach for underachieving and hire a member of his crew of underachievers. Makes sense

    This franchise is a ing joke seriously.

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    Sorry. Did I leave my racist somewhere?

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    Since when has Cincinatti ever won anything? (Don't think anywhere else in the state has a major pro sports team)
    75,76, 90s reds dip

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    Brendan Haywood played the last of his 13 NBA seasons with David Blatt, LeBron James and the rest of the Cleveland Cavaliers, so he knew the dynamics in the room as Blatt made his way as a rookie NBA head coach in 2014-15.

    Based on that, and what he learned from Cleveland contacts he had maintained inside and outside the organization, the former center was less surprised the news that Blatt was fired Friday by the Cavaliers than by its timing.

    He shared his thoughts on the Cavs’ dramatic move in an interview on Sirius XM’s NBA Today channel.

    “From what I was hearing, David Blatt kind of lost the team,” Haywood told hosts Justine Termine and former NBA player Eddie Johnson. “Then there were differences about what guys should be playing and what guys weren’t playing, from a management-coaching standpoint".

    “When you throw in those type of things combined with the fact that Tyronn Lue already had a lot of power in the organization, had a lot of traction, and a lot of people that were there already viewed him as the coach, these type of things happen.”

    Lue, 38, the Cavs’ associate coach was promoted to Blatt’s position Friday, agreeing to a new multi-year deal. There had been reports last season that Cleveland players heeded Lue’s instructions, confided in him and leaned more on his advice than on Blatt’s.

    Haywood, 36, spent most of his career with Washington, won an NBA championship with Dallas in 2011 and was with Charlotte for one season before arriving in Cleveland in July 2014 in a trade that also delivered shooter Mike Miller. He mostly served as an insurance policy, logging 119 minutes in 22 appearances, but was a witness to the team’s business from within.

    “It’s unfortunate because David Blatt’s a good guy,” the 7-footer said. “He was in first place. I’ve never seen a coach in first place fired. And on top of that, they’re in first place and their second-best player [Kyrie Irving] didn’t play most of the first part of the season.”

    But there were legitimate reasons for the change that Haywood specified in the satellite radio interview. Among his charges: Blatt had a double standard toward James that other Cavaliers players resented.

    “Coach Blatt was very hesitant to challenge LeBron James,” Haywood said. “It was one of those situations where, being a rookie coach, and LeBron being bigger than life, it was a little too much for him. I remember we had James Jones [talk] to Coach about how, ‘Hey, you can’t just skip over when LeBron James makes a mistake in the film room.’ Because we all see it".

    “And we’re like, ‘Hey, you didn’t say anything about that. You’re going to correct when Matthew Dellavedova‘s not in the right spot. You’re going to say something when Tristan Thompson‘s not in the right spot. Well, we see a fast break and LeBron didn’t get back on defense or there’s a rotation and he’s supposed to be there, and you just keep rolling the film and the whole room is quiet.’ We see that as players. That’s when … as a player, you start to lose respect for a coach.

    “Slowly but surely, that respect started chipping away where he would kind of be scared to correct LeBron in film sessions. When he would call every foul for LeBron in practice. Those type of things add up. Guys are like, ‘C’mon man, are you scared of him?’ ”

    Blatt did not meet with reporters Friday, instead releasing a statement through his agents. It read in part: “I’d like to thank [owner] Dan Gilbert and [general manager] David Griffin for giving me this opportunity and am honored to have worked with an amazing group of players from LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love through our entire roster.”

    The flashpoints that marked Blatt’s first season in Cleveland – his attempt to call a timeout that the Cavaliers didn’t have left late in a playoff game against Chicago, drawing up a crunch-time play against the Bulls that James vetoed because it didn’t put the ball in his hands, assorted incidents of bad body language by the Cavs superstar relative to his coach – were largely missing this season.

    But according to Haywood, they weren’t replaced by the positives needed from the head coach of an NBA championship contender. That’s why he considered Cleveland management’s move Friday to be fair.

    “I remember last year telling somebody on the team, ‘I love David Blatt. But if we’re in a close game, he can’t help us,’ ” Haywood said on Sirius XM. “That’s not a shot at Blatt. But … David Blatt can’t come to a huddle and draw up a play that would get us a good shot. David Blatt doesn’t understand sometimes subs ution patterns.

    “The mistake he made against the Bulls when he didn’t have the ball in LeBron’s hands at the end of the game… There were obvious mistakes he was making, and you start to see it as a player, where ‘We’re going to have to win this on our own, because he can’t do for us what Gregg Popovich can do for the Spurs. He can’t take advantage of a mismatch the way Steve Kerr did in the NBA Finals – Steve Kerr made it so it was hard for us to play James Jones. They attacked him every time he was in the game.”

    Actually, every coach in the NBA would attack James Jones with whomever he was guarding, but Haywood was on a roll.

    “Blatt didn’t feel the game like that, and those mistakes can get you beat. When the goal is championship or bust and you don’t think that coach can get you to a championship or help you win a championship, then that’s what has to be done.


    “I honestly think they’re a better team. I have no ill will toward David, I hope he gets another job. But as a guy who was there last year, I think Tyronn Lue will do a better job.”
    Nice read. THanks for posting.

    It shows how great Tim was for "letting" Pop coach him.

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    Cleveland should boycott all sports.

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    So whos gonna coach the All Star game?

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    Well that just Blatt out sucks for him. I'll be here all week folks.

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    Blatt was not a good coach. The Cavs made it to the finals last year because of two reasons: (1) LeBron and (2) they played in the east.

    He still hadn't figured out how to use Love on offense and looked pretty lost when the pressure was on.

    I doubt Cleveland suffers a dropoff with Lue leading the team, but I guess we'll see.

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    Blatt was not a good coach. The Cavs made it to the finals last year because of two reasons: (1) LeBron and (2) they played in the east.

    He still hadn't figured out how to use Love on offense and looked pretty lost when the pressure was on.

    I doubt Cleveland suffers a dropoff with Lue leading the team, but I guess we'll see.
    Dude took two games from the Warriors with two of their top three players out and a superstar that hasn't liked him. He was in a fail situation, but you can't say he didn't do everything anyone could have done with the opportunity.

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    I wonder if even Pop or Phil Jackson could reign in LBJ? I mean he even eventually chafed under Riley in Miami. LeBron wants his entourage to have free run of things (among other issues)...
    Im pretty sure those two have the pedigree to tame Lebron, and If he feels presured... will leave the team like a crying girl.

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    Blatt was not a good coach. The Cavs made it to the finals last year because of two reasons: (1) LeBron and (2) they played in the east.

    He still hadn't figured out how to use Love on offense and looked pretty lost when the pressure was on.

    I doubt Cleveland suffers a dropoff with Lue leading the team, but I guess we'll see.
    Agreed Blatt couldnt traslate his Euro game to the NBA but in my opinion Love is worthless too.

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    It doesn't matter who holds the coaching badge on this team. Blatt certainly has made mistakes, but he's not the problem there simply because his position within the organization is not as important as it normally should be. They'll neither suffer or get better with Lue or some other coach they might hire, outside of a few names, that won't go there anyway. No one can coach there without having the authority, backing and power to put their foot on LeBron's neck.

    And the comment that Griffin didn't consult with GM LeBron about sacking Blatt was laughable. At least shut up and don't mention it ffs.

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    And the comment that Griffin didn't consult with GM LeBron about sacking Blatt was laughable. At least shut up and don't mention it ffs.
    That was going to be the first question anyway.

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    That was going to be the first question anyway.
    Well of course it would be. However, an experienced business man should be able to handle the press and easily dodge it.

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    If you're Lebron's coach you're likely to look like an incompetent pushover.
    Blatt probably would have preferred to coach the rebuilding version.

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    So does Lou get credit if they make the finals and lose? Then what if the have a 30-11 start next year? Will he be praised as a great coach?

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    For a guy that has never been a HC at any level..

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    They should have hired Luke Walton

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    Lebron never really gave the man a chance. Blatt really wasn't "allowed" to coach them. GM and Coach Lebron will destroy player Lebron's chances IMO.

    If I was a solid East team, I start looking at trades and such to improve. Several teams, like Raptors and Boston are one guy away of making a leap big enough to take down the Cavs. This might be one of those years, that any solid even if not spectacular team can come out of the East.

    Spurs vs. Warriors is the real showdown. I like our chances this season. Kawhi, keep beasting boy!
    Pretty much this. Not saying he was your guy, but continuity is very important. When you run guys in and out the door and have a player or owner pulling the real strings, you get what we call The Cowboys.

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    From a Yahoo article...

    "...Players respected Lue as a former player..."

    Pop's former NBA playing experience has sure helped us. Snarkiness aside. This is weighted too heavily, often, I'm sure. Lue's playing experience probably isn't going to save him. I think this won't end well.

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    From a Yahoo article...

    "...Players respected Lue as a former player..."

    Pop's former NBA playing experience has sure helped us. Snarkiness aside. This is weighted too heavily, often, I'm sure. Lue's playing experience probably isn't going to save him. I think this won't end well.
    I agree with this. Just because two jobs are in the same industry, doesn't mean that you automatically will be better at one if you did the other. There are Doctors that make terrible hospital administrators. There are construction workers who can build a great building, but would be terrible trying to run a constriction company. It's more about skill set, less about the fact that you just were in the industry.

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    Well, the first game post Blatt went well.

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