Well...At Least there is Bi-partisanship...

[tlongII]

You're not getting it. No border wall is racist. Proposing an impractical border wall is an appeal to racist's emotion. And it's working.

But we know, you're not a trump fan

No, it's a mechanism to get the discussion started.

[CosmicCowboy]

Do you agree his proposed wall is impractical?

From an engineering standpoint it could be easily built. Instead of a single 35 foot wall it would be more practical to do a simple double chain link 8' fence 100' apart with concertina and land mines between. Put up a lot of multilingual signs. Might have to have a few manned stations at water gaps out in West Texas but building it would be easy. Anybody dumb enough to try to cross deserves the Darwin exit. I guarantee the ranch owners in Texas on the border would be happy to donate the easement just to get control of their property again.

[Th'Pusher]

So, when they proposed to build the current parts that are 20-ish feet tall, was that also racist?

Likely, but the fact that the wall was actually built indicates it was at least somewhat practical.

[clambake]

land mines?

claymores

[baseline bum]

What kind of border would you consider NOT racist? Should we just outline our border with welcome mats?

I would consider a policy that treated illegal immigration as a two-way street not racist. E.g., putting people in prison for hiring illegals, combating the problem not just at the border but also inside the border. But racist Trump doesn't want that, he'd rather hire illegals and save a few bucks. I would love to see a candidate take illegal immigration seriously but building a wall or putting more border patrol at the river isn't a serious proposal as long as it's fine to employ them. And for agriculture jobs that depend on illegals, allow them to legally come in for the growing season to work those farms and pay taxes just like the rest of us who enjoy the opportunities America provides.

[CosmicCowboy]

land mines?

claymores

I'm OK with that. Bottom line is THIS IS OUR ING BORDER DON'T CROSS IT WITHOUT PERMISSION.

[DMX7]

I'm not angry but watching the entrenched Washington aristocracy scrambling to overturn the will of the voters has been very illuminating.

You're just not catching on to this?

[Mitch]

That Trump is a birther.

Who gives a , tbh? I'm talking about political correctness being a plague in western civilization.

[baseline bum]

Who gives a , tbh? I'm talking about political correctness being a plague in western civilization.

I'm talking about Trump.

[CosmicCowboy]

I would consider a policy that treated illegal immigration as a two-way street not racist. E.g., putting people in prison for hiring illegals, combating the problem not just at the border but also inside the border. But racist Trump doesn't want that, he'd rather hire illegals and save a few bucks. I would love to see a candidate take illegal immigration seriously but building a wall or putting more border patrol at the river isn't a serious proposal as long as it's fine to employ them. And for agriculture jobs that depend on illegals allow them to come in the growing season to work those farms and pay taxes just like the rest of us who enjoy the opportunities America provides.

I have said all along if you are serious about illegal immigration then start putting employers in jail that don't e-verify and hold back taxes due. The underground economy is built on illegals.

[Mitch]

I'm talking about Trump.

I'm not.

[Th'Pusher]

From an engineering standpoint it could be easily built. Instead of a single 35 foot wall it would be more practical to do a simple double chain link 8' fence 100' apart with concertina and land mines between. Put up a lot of multilingual signs. Might have to have a few manned stations at water gaps out in West Texas but building it would be easy. Anybody dumb enough to try to cross deserves the Darwin exit. I guarantee the ranch owners in Texas on the border would be happy to donate the easement just to get control of their property again.

Easily built? Don't make me go sifting through your post history to dig up the post where you talk about the rough terrain in west Texas and how difficult it would be be to build a wall on it.

It's a stupid, impractical appeal to emotion. Just admit it and be done.

[tlongII]

Easily built? Don't make me go sifting through your post history to dig up the post where you talk about the rough terrain in west Texas and how difficult it would be be to build a wall on it.

It's a stupid, impractical appeal to emotion. Just admit it and be done.

The practicality doesn't matter. It gets the discussion started. That's what matters.

[Trill Clinton]

Like the example I responded to.

I've heard people complaining about those examples for a while now. Nobody is stopping people from not being pc.

[baseline bum]

I have said all along if you are serious about illegal immigration then start putting employers in jail that don't e-verify and hold back taxes due. The underground economy is built on illegals.

I agree 100%, gotta cut down the demand for illegals, not just chip away a couple of percent at the supply of them.

[CosmicCowboy]

Easily built? Don't make me go sifting through your post history to dig up the post where you talk about the rough terrain in west Texas and how difficult it would be be to build a wall on it.

It's a stupid, impractical appeal to emotion. Just admit it and be done.

Coming from the got that probably couldn't assemble a simple IKEA product I realize that building a 'do not cross" zone seems to be an insurmountable obstacle. Yeah, the terrain out west is probably too rough to build a solid wall that floods could wash out. That's why I left the caveat that there would be some manned locations on those drainage areas. There are already plenty of Border Patrol and ICE employees to man those areas.

[DarrinS]

I would consider a policy that treated illegal immigration as a two-way street not racist. E.g., putting people in prison for hiring illegals, combating the problem not just at the border but also inside the border. But racist Trump doesn't want that, he'd rather hire illegals and save a few bucks. I would love to see a candidate take illegal immigration seriously but building a wall or putting more border patrol at the river isn't a serious proposal as long as it's fine to employ them. And for agriculture jobs that depend on illegals, allow them to legally come in for the growing season to work those farms and pay taxes just like the rest of us who enjoy the opportunities America provides.

I agree with all that, but border walls aren't inherently racist, nor us the desire to have secure borders.

[tlongII]

I've heard people complaining about those examples for a while now. Nobody is stopping people from not being pc.

What does that even mean?

[Trill Clinton]

What does that even mean?

It means there is no such thing as America being too pc.

[tlongII]

It means there is no such thing as America being too pc.

That's your opinion and you're welcome to it.

[ElNono]

most of the " America is too PC " crowd are basically saying "I want to be openly racist/misogynist/islamophobic/xenophobe without being frowned upon"...

[baseline bum]

most of the " America is too PC " crowd are basically saying "I want to be openly racist/misogynist/islamophobic/xenophobe without being frowned upon"...

I find it offensive when you're offended by me

[DarrinS]

most of the " America is too PC " crowd are basically saying "I want to be openly racist/misogynist/islamophobic/xenophobe without being frowned upon"...

Bill Maher would probably disagree. So would a lot of left-leaning comedians.

[DarrinS]

I'm surprised more people aren't disturbed by what's been going on at universities and the total overreaction to Trump.

[boutons_deux]

no overreaction to Trump, people, even Repugs, see what an amateur, classless, adolescent, racist, sexist pig piece of he is, and how he has dragged the Repug candidate field into the sewer.