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    Bynum nor Gasol could really deal with Yao's ability to shoot. And no it wasn't Yao who got in McGrady's way most of the time. They had a really ty supporting cast until around 2008. When they both broke down at the same time.
    That team seemed to function really well with Dikembe starting. The defense and rebounding was better overall and TMac was the main guy. But even with a healthy Yao, they wouldn't have beaten Boston in 2008. They could have made a run in 2009 but I still think the Lakers would have won in a Game 7 with a healthy Yao.

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    McGrady showed who he truly was when he publicly picked the Lakers to win that series while it was still going on with his own team. , Yao got out of the first round without him

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    You have it in reverse, if he stays healthy in '08 or '09, the Rockets likely win it all.
    Not against the Celtics, no.

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    Yao in the HoF is a lock. Purely because of his impact on east Asia.
    Basketball HOF attendance will increase by 10% or more as rich Chinese add it to their schedules. Heck, if the Chinese can come within a few thousand votes of making Bruce Bowen a starting forward in the ASG then NBA is going do everything it can ride the e in Chinese interest.

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    You have it in reverse, if he stays healthy in '08 or '09, the Rockets likely win it all.

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    Yao belongs in there considering they are NBA players who have gotten in the Hall of Fame who have had less accolades than Yao. Yao gets a lot of hate because he didn't live up to the hype of being a great big in the mold of Shaq,Wilt,Duncan,Jabbar. If you look at Yao's career objectively you can see a player who was a perennial all-star and a guy who made multiple all-nba teams that in itself is HOF worthy. I have a link posted below that shows all the players who have been inducted in the hall of fame. You will see some guys on that list who did not have as good of a career as Yao.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...l_Hall_of_Fame
    Yao got a lot of hate because he's Chinese. Americans are doing this to yellows and Browns what they did to blacks in the 60s, just less not as overtly because of the pc police.

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    This thread has convinced me Yao will be put in the HOF. If that's over-rated, then maybe. But like I said, they put a lot of ass clowns in the HOF these days; so....

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    Yao got a lot of hate because he's Chinese. Americans are doing this to yellows and Browns what they did to blacks in the 60s, just less not as overtly because of the pc police.
    Yeah I pretty much agree with you on that. To me the ing and complaining about him being in the HOF does not make any sense. They keep on bringing up race as the reason why he's in but when you look at his accolades they are better than some of the current HOFers.

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    Yao got a lot of hate because he's Chinese. Americans are doing this to yellows and Browns what they did to blacks in the 60s, just less not as overtly because of the pc police.

    yao took a lot of beatings in the league, that's for sure.

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    Top 3 player in his super short peak peak... ty body though.
    Fanboy

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    The great yellow hope. Of course he was overrated. He's a Chris Webber at best
    That was Linsanity, tbh. Asians suddenly thought they could ball with him. Yao was just a freak of nature.

    The great yellow hope. Of course he was overrated. He's a Chris Webber at best
    Webber was the sh**, especially on the right team like the Kings. And the Magic royally f'd up by not taking Webber. Shaq/Webber would've ringed; and he might not've jetted to LA.

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    Bynum nor Gasol could really deal with Yao's ability to shoot. And no it wasn't Yao who got in McGrady's way most of the time. They had a really ty supporting cast until around 2008. When they both broke down at the same time. They won 22 in a row because of Adelman and McGrady.
    The Rockets were really snowballing. They did a good job picking up the slack as Yao went down with an injury but with him, they likely win the top seed and cruise until the WCF. There, I'd take them in 7 over the Lakers and lose a 7 game thriller to the Celtics.

    It's not a laughing matter. Look how good they played without Yao. The reason the Celtics so thoroughly dominated the Rockets to end the 22-game winning streak is because they focused on shutting down T-Mac, who was the only primary scorer left, especially with a general lineup that composed of players like Carl Landry (undersized), Chuck Hayes (extremely undersized) and Shane Battier. Raefer Alston was the only one left that had to be respected off the dribble and he wasn't a primary scorer.

    With Yao, you couldn't focus solely on cutting off T-Mac's perimeter action, you'd have to focus on shutting down him down as well, which was not only hard but also opened up T-Mac as well as the 3-point line for Battier and Novak when he was in the game.

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    The Rockets were really snowballing. They did a good job picking up the slack as Yao went down with an injury but with them, they likely win the top seed and cruise until the WCF. There, I'd take them in 7 over the Lakers and lose a 7 game thriller to the Celtics.



    It's not a laughing matter. Look how good they played without Yao. The reason the Celtics so thoroughly dominated the Rockets to end the 22-game winning streak is because they focused on shutting down T-Mac, who was the only primary scorer left, especially with a general lineup that composed of players like Carl Landry (undersized), Chuck Hayes (extremely undersized) and Shane Battier. Raefer Alston was the only one left that had to be respected off the dribble and he wasn't a primary scorer.

    With Yao, you couldn't focus solely on cutting off T-Mac's perimeter action, you'd have to focus on shutting down him down as well, which was not only hard but also opened up T-Mac as well as the 3-point line for Battier and Novak when he was in the game.

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    ^

    Yep, just yuck it up. You didn't even respond, just laughed.

    I will say if they put Yao in there, they definitely should have put Rudy T. in by now.

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    Yep, just yuck it up. You didn't even respond, just laughed.

    I will say if they put Yao in there, they definitely should have put Rudy T. in by now.
    It's hilarious. The 96 Spurs had a big winning streak too, but no way I'd claim they were le material. Rocket fans love overrating the out of their players, I remember how they all called Francis a franchise player.

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    Yep, just yuck it up. You didn't even respond, just laughed.

    I will say if they put Yao in there, they definitely should have put Rudy T. in by now.
    I believe you man, people forgot how that Celtics almost got regulated by the Atlanta hawks that rockets team was grittier with more talent than the hawks and they were better coached too. they could def match the Celtics

    oh and that rockets team gave the lakers a real hard time in 08 iirc.

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    The Rockets never played the Lakers without Yao except win no. 22 in the streak, a virtual blowout. It'd have been interesting but I'd take the Rockets. The Rockets and Celtics would have been an all-time classic with a healthy Yao but I think the C's prevail.

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    As much as I dislike that dude I have to admit that dude was one of the few players who could've brought a change to the game. The fact that he only had a short prime before falling into injury vulnerability was due mainly to him being misused by the bald got JVG imho. Dude was a freakier version of today's Porzingod as a freshman back then, who could shoot long range, having a solid low-post game as well as defensive game that was well above average. It was JVG who was convinced that Yao would be better off if converted to a O'Neal type of role, so you could rarely see Yao shooting a mid or long range jumper since JVG took charge, and as a result Yao's attributes of a skillful big man (like Pau Gasol) mostly regressed like his atrophied Asian . Gaining more weight/muscle is good/necessary for an easier life at the low post but at the same time it increases the load on his knees, which became a serious issue considering his 7'6 size and which was the main culprit that killed his career when he was still relatively young. International games should also be partly blamed, though.

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    Yep, he had a short prime because he was extraordinarily tall and played year round thanks to the Chinese National Team. If he wasn't playing in international compe ion so much, I bet it adds at least 5 years to his career. He needed to bulk up, did you see how much he got pushed around as a young player? You simply won't last in the NBA without some muscle unless you're the quickest, smartest guard around and even then it doesn't hurt.

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    It's hilarious. The 96 Spurs had a big winning streak too, but no way I'd claim they were le material. Rocket fans love overrating the out of their players, I remember how they all called Francis a franchise player.
    The only reason he was called Stevie Franchise was because the word -franchise- flowed with his name, Steve Francis was not a franchise player and anyone who watched him knew despite his potential.

    And I say again, look how good the '08 team was without Yao. With a break here or there, they may have beaten the Jazz without Yao, possibly including 2 wins in Salt Lake, which was arguably the hardest place to win at in the NBA.

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    I think the best player model for the rookie Yao should've been a skillful/soft big rather than a beefy one. He was arguably one of the best big shooters (with the higest FT% of his team) but unfortunately his shooting skills were basically abandoned due to JVG's desired play style. For example, Pau Gasol has never been strong by any means but there's no doubt that he is one of the best bigs to ever play in the league, who's still playing at a very high level even at age 36. Porzingod should be thankful that he isn't playing under JVG or a similarly re ed coach, tbh.

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    damn where the is rogue

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