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I concur.
I'm going with worse ... shrub is just a synonym of bush, although it is on par with Repug...ie, repugnant.
I concur.
I have no hatred of democrats. But I do despise the fact that they will not give any credit to those deserving it. I despise they fact that they uphold and prase those who have done some terrible things in their life. Teddy Kennedy comes to mind. Barney Frank who, it is said, his male compainion ran a hose out of Barney's home. Or Bill Clinton who had oral sex while talking on the phone with a congressman. Who lied and was found guilty of comtempt of court by the way. I could name more but those are just some of the things I resent. Most of todays Democrats wouldn't hold a candel to the Democrats of old. They were more conservative than I would ever hope to be. I have good reason to despise the Dimm-o-craps of today. They have few morals, are racist, and generally want the U.S. of A. to be totally defeated, unless they get their power back.
If you beleive all Dems are like that, you're in a sad state
Can you show me one who isn't that way, or tell me one. Just one, please. I will be open minded about your reply.If you beleive all Dems are like that, you're in a sad state
Well, I'm a democrat and think I have pretty good morals, but won't push mine on you, am not a racist, believe in a strong America but don't believe in going after the wrong country on shady grounds.
I tend to give the people the benefit of the doubt such as Bush. I don't care if used to drink booze and snort cocaine, alledgedly, in his prior younger years or that his service in the Guard is suspect. I don't give a rat's ass.
What matters to me is how he is performing NOW.
And while I find cheating on one's spouse morally wrong I don't think it has anything to do with one's performance on the job. Maybe getting oral sex relaxed Bill and cleared his head so maybe Monica was doing service for her country. Who am I to say?
There are those in the republican party who are praised such as Giuliani who himself has committed adultery but again, what does that have to do with his performance as the Mayor of NYC. NONE!
But he is still praised and loved by conservatives. No?
Hate to be conceited by I'm one. At least I feel I am.
Joe, try reading this statement.
http://www.bennettmornings.com/agnos...featured.jsp#0
Statement By Bill Bennett, Sep. 30, 2005
From the Desk of William J. Bennett September 30, 2005
"On Wednesday, a caller to my radio show proposed the idea that one good argument for the pro-life position would be that if we didn't have abortions, Social Security would be solvent. I stated my doubts about such a thesis, as well as my opposition to such a form of argument (the audio of the call is available at my Website: bennettmornings.com).
"I then stated that such extrapolations of this argument can cut both ways, and cited the current bestseller, Freakonomics, which discusses the authors' thesis that abortion reduces crime.
"Then, putting my philosophy professor's hat on, I went on to reveal the limitations of such arguments by showing the absurdity in another such argument, along the same lines. I entertained what law school professors call 'the Socratic method' and what I would hope good social science professors still use in their seminars. In so doing, I suggested a hypothetical analogy while at the same time saying the proposition I was using about blacks and abortion was 'impossible, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible,' just to ensure those who would have any doubt about what they were hearing, or for those who tuned in to the middle of the conversation.
"The issues of crime and race have been on many people's minds, and tongues, for the past month or so--in light of the situation in New Orleans; and the issues of race, crime, and abortion are well aired and ventilated in articles, the academy, the think tank community, and public policy. Indeed the whole issue of crime and race is not new in social science, nor popular literature. One of the authors of Freakonomics, himself, had an extended exchange on the discussion of these issues on the Internet some years back--which was also much debated in the think tank community in Washington.
"A thought experiment about public policy, on national radio, should not have received the condemnations it has. Anyone paying attention to this debate should be offended by those who have selectively quoted me, distorted my meaning, and taken out of context the dialogue I engaged in this week. Such distortions from 'leaders' of organizations and parties is a disgrace not only to the organizations and ins utions they serve, but to the First Amendment.
"In sum, let me reiterate what I had hoped my long career had already established: that I renounce all forms of bigotry--and that my record in trying to provide opportunities for, as well as save the lives of, minorities in this country stands up just fine."
The fact is that you may not agree even if I did.
Can you show me one republican who isn't a war hungry, racist, hates the poor bas ? No, because no matter who you say you cannot prove it because you, as well as I, have no idea what is in that person's heart or mind. Oh, we can speculate but you'd speculate that they aren't that way while I may speculate that they are.
Just a matter of opinion.
I watched his response on Hannity and Colmes last night and was satisfied as was the wife. The initial "shock" of the statement is what made us say to each other, "Huh, wtf did he just say."
Again, I accept his response.
I was surprised as much by the comments as by the backlash that to me atleast, seemed mostly unfounded.
After checking CDC data, I must revise my original statement. I was off by 11%.
Among non-Hispanic blacks, year 2000
607,000 live births
488,000 induced abortions
177,000 miscarriages
1,272,000 total pregnancies
48% live births
39% induced abortions
13% miscarriages
804 abortions per 1,000 live births
Those are still some horrendous statistics.
Oh, do they let Presidents and Congresses dismiss Supreme Court justices now? Can we fire Ginsburg and Stevens please?Unless I am mistaken, we have had a Republican President and a Republican-controlled legislature for for a few years now, and, oh my gosh, abortion is still legal!
On please let Roberts and the new SCOJUS outlaw abortion. That would be political suicide for Republicans.Oh, do they let Presidents and Congresses dismiss Supreme Court justices now? Can we fire Ginsburg and Stevens please?
That's a pretty high miscarriage rate too, I wonder how many non-clinical abortions are reported as miscarriages.
How do you get 804 abortions per live births? Or did you mean "to"?
I will be shocked if Roe v. Wade is ever reversed. In my opinion it's an election-time hot topic to rile up each party's base on something they can relate to.
But if it is reversed, I will be quite vocal in my opposition.
I divide 488,000 by 607,000 and get 0.804.
The use of "per" in this instance means that for every 1,000 black infants born alive in the U.S. in 2000, there were another 804 fetuses that were killed in an abortion.
Of course, you know as well as I do that outlawing abortion cold-turkey solves nothing.
I vouch for Joe.
No he didn't.You forgot to hightlite that part, too, Dan.
Why is it ok in this country for a black man to use race openly and without discretion in his comments without the fear of consequence, but the mere mention of a real weakness in the black community result in the admonishment of a white man?
Because of the way it was said.
Replace "black" with "white" and you'd get the same results.
Some more Bill Bennett family values AT WORK...
From Talking Points Memo Cafe...
A true story about Bill Bennett
By Reed Hundt | bio
From: Politics
TMP CafeWhen I was chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (1993-97), I asked Bill Bennett to visit my office so that I could ask him for help in seeking legislation that would pay for internet access in all classrooms and libraries in the country. Eventually Senators Olympia Snowe and Jay Rockefeller, with the White House leadership of President Clinton and Vice President Gore, put that provision in the Telecommunications Law of 1996, and today nearly 90% of all classrooms and libraries do have such access.
The schools covered were public and private. So far the federal funding (actually collected from everyone as part of the phone bill) has been matched more or less equally with school district funding to total about $20 billion over the last seven years. More than 90% of all teachers praise the impact of such technology on their work. At any rate, since Mr. Bennett had been Secretary of Education I asked him to support the bill in the crucial stage when we needed Republican allies. He told me he would not help, because he did not want public schools to obtain new funding, new capability, new tools for success.
He wanted them, he said, to fail so that they could be replaced with vouchers,charter schools, religious schools, and other forms of private education. Well, I thought, at least he's candid about his true views. The key Senate committee voted almost on party lines on the bill, all D's for and all R's against, except one -- Olympia Snowe. Her support provided the margin of victory. On the House side, Speaker Gingrich made sure the provision was not in the companion bill, but in conference again Senators Snowe and Rockefeller, with White House support, made the difference. The Internet has been the first technology made available to students in poorly funded schools at about the same time and in about the same way as to students in well funded schools.
Just in case your wondering why the U.S. kids really ranked 9th in education in the world.
Keep digging Dan!You're just a busy beaver!
Uhmmm, no.
According to the US Dept. of Justice, prison and jail incarcerations by race in the United States from 2004 were as follows;
The rate for white men was 717 per 100,000, for black men, 4,919 per 100,000. Black men are incarcerated at roughly a 700% higher rate than their white counterparts.
The rate for white women was 81 per 100,000, for black women, 359 per 100,000. Black women incarcerated 350% higher than their white counterparts
Source: Harrison, Paige M., & Allen J. Beck, Bureau of Justice Statistics, Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2004 (Washington, DC: US Dept. of Justice, April 2005), p. 2 and p. 11, Table 14.
"In 2001, the chances of going to prison were highest among black males (32.2%) and Hispanic males (17.2%) and lowest among white males (5.9%).
Source: Bonczar, Thomas P., US Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, "Prevalence of Imprisonment in the US Population, 1974-2001," NCJ197976 (Washington DC: US Department of Justice, August 2003), p. 8.
One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 years old is under correctional supervision or control. Source: Mauer, M. & Huling, T., Young Black Americans and the Criminal Justice System: Five Years Later (Washington DC: The Sentencing Project, 1995).
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/racepris.htm
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