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    Spur for life YGWHI's Avatar
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    Leonard doesn't have one championship as the best player. Duncan was still the best player on the team in '14. Finals MVP is a foolish award because it doesn't take into account the entirety of the playoffs.
    Well, if that's the case, DRob, Parker, Manu either. Just Tim.

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    That's the problem. KL gifted the FMVP to bring a new era of ticket purchasers to SA. Fine, but he's not a first option, maybe not a second. Spurs have to pick up a star or a couple of scorers. KL and LMA crumble under pressure. KL fans forget every Playoffs he's had except FMVP playoffs... convenient.
    Gifted? He went off all while guarding the nbas best player you people are ridiculous!

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    Legacy?? I've heard it all. Smh

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    Leonard doesn't have one championship as the best player. Duncan was still the best player on the team in '14. Finals MVP is a foolish award because it doesn't take into account the entirety of the playoffs.
    Couldn't agree more. MVP should be Playoff MVP-- not Finals Imo..

    Same goes for 2007, the finals was the Spurs vs. Suns in the Semi's and Duncan was an absolute monster. Parker cherry picked the MVP by having a favorable matchup vs. Boobie Gibson in a series Spurs could have won without him. Yeah I said it, Spurs could have won the 2007 Finals without Tony. Duncan should have won the 2007 MVP because he was the best player the playoff run.

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    The third best spur ever.

    Crazy how much he's exceeded expectations.
    Actually, now that I thought about it, no way in is Leonard better than prime Ginobili.

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    Well, if that's the case, DRob, Parker, Manu either. Just Tim.
    Yes. Thats not a secret.

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    Actually, now that I thought about it, no way in is Leonard better than prime Ginobili.
    Yup, prime Manu is #3 all time Spurs for me.

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    Let's start with Kawhi leading this team to the WCF as the best player on the team first.

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    We should do Leonard a good deed and deal him to the champs for Ibaka and Kanter.

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    Spurs probably aren't going to win again
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    TBH I don't think he's even cracked the top 10 all time spurs. He's still iffy on besting Sean or Mitc .

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    Well, if that's the case, DRob, Parker, Manu either. Just Tim.
    Ginobili was the best player during the 2005 run, the Finals are under discussion, but he was clearly Playoffs MVP if existed.

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    He hasn't even showed up for a FULL series, meaning each game

    He will never win a championship as the top guy. He's a third banana tbh
    He's already won a ring as the alpha, unlike Porker

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    He's already won a ring as the alpha, unlike Porker
    Parker led the team in scoring that year, in the regular season and in the playoffs, open your Pinoy eyes up and check the stats

    I'd trade 10 Kawhbetas for 1 Duralpha

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    As it stands:
    1. Duncan
    2. Robinson
    3. Parker
    4. Gervin
    5. Manu

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    Yes. Thats not a secret.
    Well, it's not a secret, it was just Tim Duncan. But since there are guys in this thread saying that Manu, Parker already did it, I thought someone should point out that.

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    Well, it's not a secret, it was just Tim Duncan. But since there are guys in this thread saying that Manu, Parker already did it, I thought someone should point out that.
    So you are saying that Ginobili was not Spurs best player throughout 2005 playoffs?

    I agree Parker didnīt do it, he was not the best player in 2014 nor in 2007, i put Duncan in 2007 and Tim or Manu in 2014.

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    Kawhi won't supplant Robinson as the second best Spur ever.

    Replace Kawhi with an in-his-prime Robinson on this year's team and they might not have lost a game.

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    I'll temper that last post by saying that I hope Kawhi can put the Spurs on his back and lead them to a championship. 2015 and 2016 are showing me that he'll need support to get there. Even Lebron needed Wade and Bosh to win a le. No harm in that.

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    The Second best spur ever.

    Crazy how much he's exceeded expectations.
    Kawhi isn't even close to being at David's level offensively, so no. Kawhi is playing with another all-star and several HOF players, and he's managed the same playoff success as David did with those teams (aka none).

    You could eventually make the argument for Kawhi over Manu or Tony, but gtfo with this number 2 business.

    So far Kawhi as the number 1 option has led to this:
    -Disappearing act in last year's playoffs after a monster start = 1st round exit
    -Inconsistent play and outplayed by his key rival in this last series = embarrassing 2nd round exit after a historic season

    Even if he does lead the Spurs to a le, which I hope he does, I wouldn't compare him to David, because David never had the chance to lead a team as good as any that Kawhi has played on.

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