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    I honestly thought he got over his coaching glitches in 2014. He pretty much coached a perfect run. Didn't screw around with Frankenstein lineups, didn't overplay bench scrubs, wasn't afraid to make major mid-game adjustments (sat Parker the 2nd half on game 6 against the Thunder), actively sought out Kawhi and told him to be more aggressive, and of course designed a pitch perfect gameplan to beat the swarming Miami defense.

    Brilliant coach, but as I've said, he thinks his brilliance gives him license to go full mad scientist. His fascination with silly lineups and his obsession with "rest" will continue to cost the Spurs playoff wins.
    31 year-old Lebron with ton of miles is averaging 4 MPG more than 24 y-o Kawhi in the playoffs for a deeper Cavs team that's 10-1 and blowing out East teams left and right ..

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    Tbh Pop just isn't hungry anymore.
    i agree, its hard to be hungry when you have achieved everything there is to achieve...just look at the spurs fans in the at&t compared to spurs fans back in 99. We are all guilty of this.

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    why do people act like pop has never been criticized? remember 2013?
    Plenty of outlets criticize Pop, but the local paper here isn't really known for it, even when warranted.

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    Tbh Pop just isn't hungry anymore.
    Before game 6...


    2-11 Pop's career in elimination games on the road, it doesn't seem a matter of being hungry. It's more an issue of late game decisions, he wasn't great at it in his whole career.

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    Pop sucks a coaching= the right players weren't there.

    Butler>kmart, boban> west, Kyle> kawhi plays the full game

    That's your argument. The losses were close, so maybe just rolling the dice would be a win, but the argument that pop sucks is so petty.






    Pop's weird lineups are a sign we can't win a straight up battle with the players on the roster. Imagine,a team with no healthy 5, and ancient or streaky shooting guards. That's not a championship team in any year.

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    Pop build here the last couple of years such a vanilla and soft atmosphere that players don't get push to give their all and to play into standards...

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    The NBA version of Joe Girardi.
    Joe has 5 Championships? He's Belichick. Just like last year when Bill elected to kick off in overtime. Pop and Belichick have tons in common. They tend to overthink, over tinker....

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    Pop sucks a coaching= the right players weren't there.

    Butler>kmart, boban> west, Kyle> kawhi plays the full game

    That's your argument. The losses were close, so maybe just rolling the dice would be a win, but the argument that pop sucks is so petty.






    Pop's weird lineups are a sign we can't win a straight up battle with the players on the roster. Imagine,a team with no healthy 5, and ancient or streaky shooting guards. That's not a championship team in any year.
    You're kidding yourself if you think this roster was bad

    Also this terrible logic of yours won't change anybody's mind. You're saying the players lost, and Pop is untouchable... What about when they ring? I bet Pop had to do with that more than the players, huh lmao

    You're making everyone's argument for them. Pop ain't without riding coattails

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    Or at the very least, the closest thing you can get to an article critical of Pop. Excerpt from Buck Harvey's article:


    http://www.expressnews.com/sports/co...witter-premium
    I'm guessing Pop agrees with most of this and thinks Donovan did an excellent job. 4 of the games were really close and had some ridiculously bad calls that likely changed the outcome. Was Pop out-coached or was OKC just better on the boards and luckier? I was actually surprised we were poised to win games 2, 4, & 5 when we were getting clobbered on the boards. Could Boban had made a difference? That looked like our only option on the rebound discrepancy.

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    It all started in 2009..thats when the bonner debacle began also...
    The entire season we had a 6-11, 22yr old athletic black center (mahinmi) who literally sat on the bench the entire season while pop put MATT BONNER as our STARTING CENTER THE ENTIRE SEASON...duncan was literally the only big we had out there the whole season. We got outrebounded and killed by opposing bigs the whole year while duncan struggled valiantly all alone, as a 22yr old 6-11 athletic kid watched from the bench all year.
    To this day, bonner is still on the team, and has single handedly caused us to lose far better players, simply because pop could never part with bonner.

    And of course, theres keith 'the centerpeice' bogans
    Michael 'he hasnt lost a step' finley
    Jacque vaughn
    Giving mcgrady literally zero pt all 2013
    The list goes on and on

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    We all know Pop ed up but the only adjusment to the refs is to blow out your opponent. Not sure how you plan for that.

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    My biggest issue was kyle f#! $/ing Anderson playing. Blew my mind.

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    Or at the very least, the closest thing you can get to an article critical of Pop. Excerpt from Buck Harvey's article:
    One le in 9 years with the rosters he has had.
    Is that reasonable? Hall of Fame?

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    The latest casualty of Pop's "system" is Jonathan Simmons. The only other guy we had on our roster that has balls and athleticism and Pop puts him in the doghouse for all eternity because Simmon's made a couple of mistakes in game while Manu can toss up brick after brick, make stupid passes and Enrique can turnover the ball repeatedly and get smoked on defense, but what Simmons does is much, much worse in his eyes. I know that there is some loyalty that must be extended to your legends but when your legends are hurting your team, you need to have the balls to make the pragmatic choice and go with what works until it stops working. I laugh and laugh when I hear media suck ups comment during games that Pop treats every player on the roster the same because this is simply not true. Anybody can see with even a basic knowledge of basketball that he plays favorites every game and instead of letting go of the reins he tightens them up and the result is damaging the potential of good players and preventing them from being great all in the great belief that the ideology he has created is infallible.

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    One le in 9 years with the rosters he has had.
    Is that reasonable? Hall of Fame?
    Or 5 les in 15 years...or 3 les in 7 years...4 les in 9 years. I guess if you don't want to count 4 les you could say one le in nine years.

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    One le in 9 years with the rosters he has had.
    Is that reasonable? Hall of Fame?
    Nobody was winning a le with Matt Bonner playing meaningful minutes like he did from 2009-2012. So that's 4 asterisk years right there.

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    Pop is either Jesus Christ reincarnated or pond s , no in-between

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    It all started in 2009..thats when the bonner debacle began also...
    The entire season we had a 6-11, 22yr old athletic black center (mahinmi) who literally sat on the bench the entire season while pop put MATT BONNER as our STARTING CENTER THE ENTIRE SEASON...duncan was literally the only big we had out there the whole season. We got outrebounded and killed by opposing bigs the whole year while duncan struggled valiantly all alone, as a 22yr old 6-11 athletic kid watched from the bench all year.
    To this day, bonner is still on the team, and has single handedly caused us to lose far better players, simply because pop could never part with bonner.

    And of course, theres keith 'the centerpeice' bogans
    Michael 'he hasnt lost a step' finley
    Jacque vaughn
    Giving mcgrady literally zero pt all 2013
    The list goes on and on
    No bigger critic of how pop screwed over Mahinmi and the team than me. But the year Bonner started all those games 08-09 was Ian's second year and he was out all year with injury. He broker off a bone chip in his ankle that never turned up in tests over the summer at a big man camp. He was diagnosed with sprains that never healed and when he finally had the exploratory surgery that found the problem he was knocked out for the year.

    His third and final year was definitely screwed up by Pop. But Mcdyess and Blair started most of the games next to Duncan.

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    Or 5 les in 15 years...or 3 les in 7 years...4 les in 9 years. I guess if you don't want to count 4 les you could say one le in nine years.
    The previous 4 were outstanding for sure. Rest on laurels after that?
    After the 2007 'Ship until now.
    Chronological.

    Without
    Prime Duncan
    Prime GNob
    Prime Parker
    Prime Bowen
    Prime Horry
    Great benches including DRob, Kerr, Man From Nazr when Spurs were allowed to have their nutts intact in Tall Balls,
    etc etc.


    Spurs then had to rely on coaching to make the difference.
    2014, that's it.

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    this article wasn't critical. NEXT

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    this article wasn't critical. NEXT
    Sure it was. Just because it lacks racist, sexist and generally vulgar language like you see here doesn't make it non-critical.

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    I honestly thought he got over his coaching glitches in 2014. He pretty much coached a perfect run. Didn't screw around with Frankenstein lineups, didn't overplay bench scrubs, wasn't afraid to make major mid-game adjustments (sat Parker the 2nd half on game 6 against the Thunder), actively sought out Kawhi and told him to be more aggressive, and of course designed a pitch perfect gameplan to beat the swarming Miami defense.

    Brilliant coach, but as I've said, he thinks his brilliance gives him license to go full mad scientist. His fascination with silly lineups and his obsession with "rest" will continue to cost the Spurs playoff wins.
    I agree with this though I think losing to OKC had more to do with OKC realizing that they are better when they play as a team than Pops being outcoached. Talent wise Durant and Westbrook are the best duo in the league AND they have the best bigs. All they lacked is it all coming together. That and the big 3 didnt have enough left. Signing LMA was supposed to make up for any lack of youth in our vets but it wasnt enough.

    What I agree about is Pops mucking around too much. I just dont agree with taking Duncan out as much as he did. Yes you rest him but you also rust him. People with aches and pains need to stay warm and get rhythm and Pops doesnt seem to take that into account. And why in an elimination game do you give 3rd string players major minutes? Right there you send a message saying we arent as good as OKC.

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    Pop sucks a coaching= the right players weren't there.

    Butler>kmart, boban> west, Kyle> kawhi plays the full game

    That's your argument. The losses were close, so maybe just rolling the dice would be a win, but the argument that pop sucks is so petty.






    Pop's weird lineups are a sign we can't win a straight up battle with the players on the roster. Imagine,a team with no healthy 5, and ancient or streaky shooting guards. That's not a championship team in any year.
    This why SpursTalk rules and Pounding the sucks. Here the people are real and not brainwashed. Pop got outcoached pure and simple. Please don't try to hide it.

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    Pop is either Jesus Christ reincarnated or pond s , no in-between
    Jesus Christ practices forgiveness while petty Poop discriminates players with his doghouse treatment. So yeah, he's pond s .

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    Sure it was. Just because it lacks racist, sexist and generally vulgar language like you see here doesn't make it non-critical.
    The article said that maybe in 2 years pop may need to go away. HOW "critical". Spurs need to get rid of Becky, she's a woman, and any minority affiliated with the organization. .

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