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    Pop should have sat him in the 2nd half of Gm 5 when he shot 3-12 in a game the Spurs HAD to win.
    What were his series stats? Compared to the other stars on the team?

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    What were his series stats? Compared to the other stars on the team?
    Softridge got punked by Kanter who can't even outplay Speight on a consistent basis.

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    What were his series stats? Compared to the other stars on the team?

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    LMA carried spurs through 3 games.
    Just in game 2.

    In game 1 he didn't carry us, the whole team played great. Kawhi scored 25 points in 21 minutes, Danny made many 3's, even Tim looked good.

    Kawhi is a very streaky playoff performer. He has not had one legitimate series where he showed up every game. On defense yes, offense, no.
    And LMA?

    Anyway, Kawhi had that type of series against Memphis this year. Yep, depleted Grizz. But other Spurs players didn't play at Kawhi's level on offense against the same team.
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    I don't think so. I'm a fan of neither. They both have new NBA ignorance and play scared. LMA apologists will say he rebounds well, but he only gets uncontested boards. Both player fans will say that these guys are max players who can carry teams. They can't. Spurs need them to play physical, and they either can't or won't. Both are ty at setting up teammates.
    Kawhi is a damn good 3 pt shooter. He now can juke and do a mid range jumper. He rebounds and is DPOY. More than all of that he has heart and a work ethic like no other. He also seems to play with a chip on his shoulder which is good. Hes not the best in the league but please name who is better? Not that many. Your just spoiled.

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    LMA was playing the best front court in the NBA single handedly. Almost played the entire game each game because the spurs could not afford to sit him. Kawhi is a very streaky playoff performer. He has not had one legitimate series where he showed up every game. On defense yes, offense, no.
    He's 24, and beyond expectations on offensive side. I'm happy with his development. Awesome to strike gold with him. Doesn't change the fact that he isn't a reliable offensive threat yet in the playoffs.
    Ive had a problem with LMA's rebounding and boxing out all season long. To me, LMA is the obvious natural scorer on the team but if he doesnt back it up with D and rebounding, while Kawhis hustling around like his life depended on it, thats bad chemistry. LMA is a C/PF, not a SG, hes got a three way responsibility at all times.

    Of course this is in response to the Kawhi hate. I am happy with LMA's start like you are with Kawhi.

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    It's pointless to be critical of LMA when every other big the team had was trash (Timmy too save his retirement game and I hate admitting that).

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    Remind me but there was a spur that had 30+ points the first 3 games vs okc?
    In each of the first 3 games? No.

    LMA scored +30 the first 2 games vs OKC and 24 points in game 3.

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    Softridge got punked by Kanter who can't even outplay Speight on a consistent basis.
    Not even a good troll tbh. Aldridge was the best player in the playoffs. Kawhi second. Anyone who says otherwise is a player fan.

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    Aldridge... he shouldn't even be called Big Man Allen Iverson, at least Iverson dragged a team to the Finals as the first option. LMA is Big Man Glenn Robinson.

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    Aldridge was the best player in the playoffs. Kawhi second. Anyone who says otherwise is a player fan.
    Not sure if playoffs-stats are player fans but they say that Kawhi was the best player in 2016 playoffs.

    Kawhi was the Spurs leading scorer, also #2 in PER 29.6. LMA #8, 25.9

    LMA didn't finish in the top of defensive players in any category. Just in blocks per game #8 (with Kawhi)

    But Kawhi was #1 in steals per game, #4 in Def Rtg (behind 3 PF/C), Def Win Shares #3, #8 in blocks per game...

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    Not sure if playoffs-stats are player fans but they say that Kawhi was the best player in 2016 playoffs.

    Kawhi was the Spurs leading scorer, also #2 in PER 29.6. LMA #8, 25.9

    LMA didn't finish in the top of defensive players in any category. Just in blocks per game #8 (with Kawhi)

    But Kawhi was #1 in steals per game, #4 in Def Rtg (behind 3 PF/C), Def Win Shares #3, #8 in blocks per game...
    I was specifically talking about the OKC series. I wouldn't really count the Grizzlies as a playoff series

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    I was specifically talking about the OKC series. I wouldn't really count the Grizzlies as a playoff series
    Well, you said "in playoffs".

    Even if you wouldn't count the first round, the Spurs already played 10 games in playoffs not just 6.

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    But I mean if you wanna stat pad to put your guy at the top go ahead... from a neutral standpoint... LMA was the man that series. Kawhi was here and there, wanted him to be more aggressive, green stepped up, then nobody else. Maybe a glimpse from Parker.

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    Well, you said "in playoffs".

    Even if you wouldn't count the first round, the Spurs already played 10 games in playoffs not just 6.
    I'm all Kawhi Leonard man, I created a damn YouTube dedication video for the guy: Kawhi Leonard Lebrons Kryptonite. But when the playoffs REALLY mattered. LMA was the best player on the team. Kawhi was the guy all season, not against the thunder though.

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    But when the playoffs REALLY mattered. LMA was the best player on the team
    Not sure how a player who had only two good games in the series and disappear the next 4 was the best player on the team. But it's fine, it's your opinion.

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    Not sure how a player who had only two good games in the series and disappear the next 4 was the best player on the team. But it's fine, it's your opinion.
    I mean game 3: 24 pts
    Game 4: 20
    Game 5: 20
    Game 6: 18
    Wouldnt really call that disappearing. When a team focuses on stopping you, other players have to step up. Do you want him to apologize for not putting up 40 a game...

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    Do you want him to apologize for not putting up 40 a game...
    No. Also, I always say he was a dream addition, really like him. But he wasn't our best player.

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    No. Also, I always say he was a dream addition, really like him. But he wasn't our best player.
    Player fan to the fullest. You can have your own opinion, but facts > opinions. Remember also Team > Kawhi/LMA.

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    Player fan to the fullest. You can have your own opinion, but facts > opinions.
    Usually stats>opinions.

    But even stats can be used in many strange/incomplete ways. Like when Chinook uses just PPP to grade defense.

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    Usually stats>opinions.

    But even stats can be used in many strange/incomplete ways. Like when Chinook uses just PPP to grade defense.
    Stop deferring and come at me with something relevant.

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    It's pointless to be critical of LMA when every other big the team had was trash (Timmy too save his retirement game and I hate admitting that).
    Its pointless because the season is over but its not pointless to be critical. LMA is supposed to be big #1. TD would notve let that happen prior to this season, and I am critical of Pops decision to not play him so much this season.

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    Jermaine O'Neal. Now that I think about this LMA does seem a whole lot like JO.

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    Kiwi shriveled up, per par. Had he even made 1 or 2 of his bricks in game 2, it would've been the Spurs playing the Warriors right now... But his Beta DNA took over

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    Kiwi shriveled up, per par. Had he even made 1 or 2 of his bricks in game 2, it would've been the Spurs playing the Warriors right now... But his Beta DNA took over
    You talk about "Kawhi's bricks" but forget that LMA missed several wide open jump shots in the 4th quarter of game 5... These haters/trolls

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