Blazers: Curry is going to lose FMVP again

[Kawhitstorm]

Curry 26, 5, and 6. Iguodala 16, 6, and 4. It's not like Iguodala was putting up 16, 10, 10 to make up for the scoring difference. The other numbers pretty much cancel each other out. But the scoring difference alone gives Curry the FMVP for me.

Had Curry put up 26, 5, 6 guarding Kyrie or absolutely destroyed Delly then he would have won the FMVP. (Porker won FMVP in 2007 b/c he destroyed Boobie Gibson)

[Kawhitstorm]

Duncan went 6-for-18 in the 2nd half, and down the stretch he didn't seal the game. Duncan scored 17 points on 18 shots. He took 18 shots! 33% from the field for a big man. Took over in the 2nd half?.

The Pistons were trying to pull away in the 3rd quarter but Tim had other idea:

6:18.0			48-43	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 4 ft
6:18.0			48-43		Offensive rebound by T. Duncan
6:18.0			48-43		Shooting foul by A. McDyess
6:18.0			48-44	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 1 of 1
6:07.0	B. Wallace misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft (block by R. Horry)		48-44
6:04.0			48-44		Defensive rebound by M. Ginobili
5:59.0			48-46	+2	M. Ginobili makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
5:55.0	Detroit full timeout		48-46
5:34.0	A. McDyess makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft (assist by C. Billups)	+2	50-46
5:15.0			50-46		Turnover by T. Duncan (3 sec)
4:58.0	Shooting foul by T. Duncan		50-46
4:58.0	B. Wallace misses free throw 1 of 2		50-46
4:58.0	Offensive rebound by Team		50-46
4:58.0	B. Wallace misses free throw 2 of 2		50-46
4:56.0			50-46		Defensive rebound by B. Bowen
4:40.0			50-46		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 6 ft
4:38.0	Defensive rebound by A. McDyess		50-46
4:22.0	T. Prince makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft	+2	52-46
4:01.0			52-46		Shooting foul by A. McDyess
4:01.0			52-46		T. Parker enters the game for M. Ginobili
4:01.0	L. Hunter enters the game for A. McDyess		52-46
4:01.0			52-47	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 1 of 2
4:01.0			52-48	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 2 of 2
3:41.0	T. Prince misses 3-pt shot from 25 ft (block by B. Barry)		52-48
3:40.0			52-48		Defensive rebound by R. Horry
3:30.0			52-50	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 6 ft
3:30.0			52-50		Shooting foul by R. Hamilton
3:30.0			52-51	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 1 of 1
3:15.0	Shooting foul by B. Barry		52-51
3:15.0	R. Hamilton makes free throw 1 of 2	+1	53-51
3:15.0	R. Hamilton misses free throw 2 of 2		53-51
3:14.0			53-51		Defensive rebound by T. Duncan
2:56.0			53-53	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 11 ft
2:30.0	R. Hamilton misses 2-pt shot from 16 ft		53-53
2:29.0			53-53		Defensive rebound by B. Bowen
2:14.0			53-53		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 7 ft
2:13.0	Defensive rebound by B. Wallace		53-53
2:00.0	Shooting foul by B. Bowen		53-53
2:00.0	C. Billups makes free throw 1 of 2	+1	54-53
2:00.0			54-53		M. Ginobili enters the game for B. Bowen
2:00.0	C. Billups makes free throw 2 of 2	+1	55-53
1:39.0			55-55	+2	M. Ginobili makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft (assist by R. Horry)
1:15.0	L. Hunter misses 2-pt shot from 11 ft		55-55
1:13.0			55-55		Defensive rebound by T. Duncan
0:54.8			55-55		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 9 ft (block by B. Wallace)
0:54.8			55-55		Offensive rebound by Team
0:52.9			55-57	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft (assist by T. Parker)

[Killakobe81]

Duncan went 6-for-18 in the 2nd half, and down the stretch he didn't seal the game. Duncan scored 17 points on 18 shots. He took 18 shots! 33% from the field for a big man. Took over in the 2nd half? Took over all the shot attempts. He also had four turnovers by himself in the 2nd half alone. Took over in the 2nd half? Duncan deserved the FMVP over Horry because of the overall production throughout the series. But Horry was a major difference maker in games 5 and 7... as a ROLE PLAYER.

Horry and Iguodala share the same type of defensive attention in that guys like Duncan and Curry get all the defensive focus from the other team. And that's why role players can have some big scoring nights. My point about Horry remains the same. He was probably the difference in the series. But I still DO NOT give him the FMVP over Duncan or Ginobili because he's a role player whose overall Finals series production still paled in comparison. Same way I feel about Iguodala. He was great. And his defense was awesome. And his unexpected production offensively was a major difference in the series last year. I still don't give him the FMVP over Curry. Being the second leading scorer for the Warriors last year, the difference wasn't 1-2 points like it was between Duncan and Ginobili in 2005. There's a 10 point difference in scoring between Curry and Iguodala. That's significant. Significant enough that you can't give it to Iguodala. Curry 26, 5, and 6. Iguodala 16, 6, and 4. It's not like Iguodala was putting up 16, 10, 10 to make up for the scoring difference. The other numbers pretty much cancel each other out. But the scoring difference alone gives Curry the FMVP for me.

Curry easily could have MVP last year and probably should have been ...
As Manu could have been in 2005 ...
Honestly it's not a huge deal either way ...on this board we seem to care though ...

[Kawhitstorm]

0:36.9	C. Billups misses 2-pt shot from 4 ft (block by T. Duncan)		55-57
0:36.9	Offensive rebound by Team		55-57
0:28.6	Turnover by Team (shot clock)		55-57
0:07.9			55-57		T. Parker misses 3-pt shot from 25 ft
0:07.4	Defensive rebound by Team		55-57
0:00.9	L. Hunter makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft (assist by T. Prince)	+2	57-57
0:00.3			57-57		Turnover by M. Ginobili (lost ball; steal by L. Hunter)
0:00.0	End of 3rd quarter
4th Quarter (Back to Top)
Time	Detroit	Score			San Antonio
12:00.0	Start of 4th quarter
11:41.0			57-57		Turnover by T. Duncan (lost ball; steal by B. Wallace)
11:24.0	L. Hunter misses 2-pt shot from 22 ft		57-57
11:22.0			57-57		Defensive rebound by M. Ginobili
11:15.0			57-59	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft (assist by B. Barry)
10:50.0	R. Hamilton misses 2-pt shot from 13 ft		57-59

[JamStone]

The Pistons were trying to pull away in the 3rd quarter but Tim had other idea:

6:18.0			48-43	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 4 ft
6:18.0			48-43		Offensive rebound by T. Duncan
6:18.0			48-43		Shooting foul by A. McDyess
6:18.0			48-44	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 1 of 1
6:07.0	B. Wallace misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft (block by R. Horry)		48-44
6:04.0			48-44		Defensive rebound by M. Ginobili
5:59.0			48-46	+2	M. Ginobili makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
5:55.0	Detroit full timeout		48-46
5:34.0	A. McDyess makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft (assist by C. Billups)	+2	50-46
5:15.0			50-46		Turnover by T. Duncan (3 sec)
4:58.0	Shooting foul by T. Duncan		50-46
4:58.0	B. Wallace misses free throw 1 of 2		50-46
4:58.0	Offensive rebound by Team		50-46
4:58.0	B. Wallace misses free throw 2 of 2		50-46
4:56.0			50-46		Defensive rebound by B. Bowen
4:40.0			50-46		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 6 ft
4:38.0	Defensive rebound by A. McDyess		50-46
4:22.0	T. Prince makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft	+2	52-46
4:01.0			52-46		Shooting foul by A. McDyess
4:01.0			52-46		T. Parker enters the game for M. Ginobili
4:01.0	L. Hunter enters the game for A. McDyess		52-46
4:01.0			52-47	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 1 of 2
4:01.0			52-48	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 2 of 2
3:41.0	T. Prince misses 3-pt shot from 25 ft (block by B. Barry)		52-48
3:40.0			52-48		Defensive rebound by R. Horry
3:30.0			52-50	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 6 ft
3:30.0			52-50		Shooting foul by R. Hamilton
3:30.0			52-51	+1	T. Duncan makes free throw 1 of 1
3:15.0	Shooting foul by B. Barry		52-51
3:15.0	R. Hamilton makes free throw 1 of 2	+1	53-51
3:15.0	R. Hamilton misses free throw 2 of 2		53-51
3:14.0			53-51		Defensive rebound by T. Duncan
2:56.0			53-53	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 11 ft
2:30.0	R. Hamilton misses 2-pt shot from 16 ft		53-53
2:29.0			53-53		Defensive rebound by B. Bowen
2:14.0			53-53		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 7 ft
2:13.0	Defensive rebound by B. Wallace		53-53
2:00.0	Shooting foul by B. Bowen		53-53
2:00.0	C. Billups makes free throw 1 of 2	+1	54-53
2:00.0			54-53		M. Ginobili enters the game for B. Bowen
2:00.0	C. Billups makes free throw 2 of 2	+1	55-53
1:39.0			55-55	+2	M. Ginobili makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft (assist by R. Horry)
1:15.0	L. Hunter misses 2-pt shot from 11 ft		55-55
1:13.0			55-55		Defensive rebound by T. Duncan
0:54.8			55-55		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 9 ft (block by B. Wallace)
0:54.8			55-55		Offensive rebound by Team
0:52.9			55-57	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft (assist by T. Parker)

Keeping his team in the game in the third quarter doesn't exactly scream "sealed the game" to me. Went 3-for-6 in that stretch along with the free throws. So outside of that 5 minute stretch, he was 3-for-12 in the second half right? You said took over the second half which sealed the game. I don't see that sealing the game. I wouldn't argue had you said something like "Duncan kept them in the game for like a 5 minute stretch at the end of the third quarter, which allowed Ginobili to seal the game."

[Kawhitstorm]

Keeping his team in the game in the third quarter doesn't exactly scream "sealed the game" to me. Went 3-for-6 in that stretch along with the free throws. So outside of that 5 minute stretch, he was 3-for-12 in the second half right?

Tim had 12 of the 19 pts for the Spurs in the 3rd quarter along w/ 6 rebounds & stout rim protection.
He also had two key assists in the 4th quarter when the Pistons doubled him.

You said took over the second half which sealed the game. I don't see that sealing the game. I wouldn't argue had you said something like "Duncan kept them in the game for like a 5 minute stretch at the end of the third quarter, which allowed Ginobili to seal the game."

I stated "sealed the DEAL", as in the MVP case for Iggy/Tim.

The sequence that ACTUALLY clinched the championship involved Tim in EVERY play: (Manu hit 4 FTs after being INTENTIONALLY fouled)

7:12.0			61-64		T. Duncan enters the game for N. Mohammed
7:12.0			61-64		T. Parker enters the game for M. Ginobili
6:58.0			61-64		Turnover by R. Horry (traveling)
6:46.0	R. Hamilton misses 2-pt shot from 16 ft		61-64
6:44.0			61-64		Defensive rebound by T. Duncan
6:24.0			61-64		R. Horry misses 3-pt shot from 24 ft
6:22.0			61-64		Offensive rebound by T. Duncan
6:11.0			61-67	+3	B. Bowen makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft (assist by T. Duncan)
6:09.0	Detroit full timeout		61-67
6:09.0	A. McDyess enters the game for B. Wallace		61-67
5:54.0	Turnover by R. Wallace (bad pass; steal by R. Horry)		61-67
5:37.0			61-67		Turnover by T. Duncan (bad pass; steal by R. Wallace)
5:17.0	R. Wallace makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft	+2	63-67
4:51.0			63-67		T. Parker misses 2-pt shot from 21 ft
4:50.0			63-67		Offensive rebound by R. Horry
4:37.0			63-67		San Antonio full timeout
4:37.0			63-67		M. Ginobili enters the game for B. Barry
4:27.0			63-67		T. Duncan misses 2-pt shot from 17 ft
4:25.0	Defensive rebound by R. Wallace		63-67
4:16.0			63-67		Violation by B. Bowen (kicked ball)
4:03.0	A. McDyess misses 2-pt shot from 7 ft		63-67
4:00.0			63-67		Defensive rebound by R. Horry
3:38.0			63-69	+2	T. Duncan makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft (assist by M. Ginobili)
3:25.0	C. Billups makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft	+2	65-69
2:57.0			65-72	+3	M. Ginobili makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft (assist by T. Duncan)

[dbreiden83080]

Who cares? Win the damn chip..

[dbreiden83080]

Keeping his team in the game in the third quarter doesn't exactly scream "sealed the game" to me. Went 3-for-6 in that stretch along with the free throws. So outside of that 5 minute stretch, he was 3-for-12 in the second half right? You said took over the second half which sealed the game. I don't see that sealing the game. I wouldn't argue had you said something like "Duncan kept them in the game for like a 5 minute stretch at the end of the third quarter, which allowed Ginobili to seal the game."

Tim just pretty much stayed in the fight that game 7. He was all banged up with ankle injuries, playing against the best D in the league. He shot poorly but stayed with it, demanding the ball, playing great D and rebounding. He never shied away from wanting it in that game. He showed his championship heart..

[313]

It's amazing how big time the Warriors role-players are. I wrote off Barbosa, Livingston, Barnes as shaky earlier in the season, but boy have they flourished. Hope Patty, Fat Ass, and Fat Head are taking notes.

They started off 27-0 why would you write them off lol

[HarlemHeat37]

He should have won it last year, and he should win it again, regardless, tbh..the attention he draws off the ball is something we have never seen before in the NBA..

Curry is going to be the 4th player in NBA history to win back to back MVPs + championships, joining Russell, Lebron and DK

[Kawhitstorm]

He should have won it last year, and he should win it again, regardless, tbh..the attention he draws off the ball is something we have never seen before in the NBA..

Klay/Wardell even draw attention while sitting on the bench which is why Livingston/Barbosa lit up the Cavs.

[Thread]

Klay/Wardell even draw attention while sitting on the bench which is why Livingston/Barbosa lit up the Cavs.

That's why it's called a team, storm. Curry honest to God does not grudge it. His heart is pure. The father figure,,,that's the key.

[LkrFan]

As long as LeBronze or Jim don't rang

FIFY son

[LkrFan]

That's why it's called a team, storm. Curry honest to God does not grudge it. His heart is pure. The father figure,,,that's the key.