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Apart from NBA 2k trades idead, Hawks did trade Teague for pick, to save money for resigning their FA, and you all suggest that trading that pick, for player with higher salary is their next move ?
This makes a lot of sense
Something like Tiago + Tabo + 12 for
Boris + Patty + 29
They save close to 6M after waiving Boris plus the salary difference between 12 and 29.
Then the Spurs have the option of using Danny for something else.
Last edited by CGD; 06-22-2016 at 05:37 PM.
Apart from NBA 2k trades idead, Hawks did trade Teague for pick, to save money for resigning their FA, and you all suggest that trading that pick, for player with higher salary is their next move ?
I think ATL, after moving Teague for nothing, now has like 25+M in cap space (even with Horfords cap hold). They can basically sign a max player and then re-sign Horford. They may lose Baze if they do that, but man, they have a lot of ways they can go.
That's kind of where I am at this point. Sticking with status quo and just trying to fill in gaps with average talent you're looking at a team that is an injury away from being playoff fodder. Where it stands that core group of players does not have an extra gear to kick into when they need it in the playoffs. I expect Kawhi to improve but I don't think he has the players around him that will help his game at all.
While I agree landing a "quality starter" PG would get ideal, it's not that easy. Also, I think yalls view is overly pessimistic. Sure, with the Spurs age and no big upgrades, they have little room for error. But there are pretty much 25 other teams that would KILL to be in that spot.
Spurs are one of maybe 5 teams that have a legit shot if things break their way and adding any talent infusion, even if it's not KD is a smart move IMO. Spurs have a legit core in LMA/Kawhi/DG to build around.
Adding a George Hill level of player or two dramatically raises the ceiling IMO.
I think it absolutely helps if they had some players who are still relatively young who can bring some athleticism and a skill to the team for sure. Its something that would help them in the years to come if it's a relatively cheap deal. The biggest issue here is continuity and the idea of an iden y that they can actually roll with. This season didn't really have a concrete iden y when it came to the offense, it was a lot of one on one stuff, pick n roll stuff which is not going to work when it comes to teams that have more athletic players and cause trouble when they close out and they seal the paint.
Spurs need to start thinking what kind of offense is going to work for Kawhi Leonard and his strengths and start to construct it around that.. That means getting players that are going to be there long enough to grow continuity with our star athlete and be comfortable with that role. Asking our current roster to dip out of character a year older and a year slower to cater to a new offense might be a death knell.
If SA would have beaten OKC, no one would really be saying this. They should have beaten OKC but everyone crapped the bed & SA got bad calls (and it was still close every game except game 6).
The offense wasn't great but it had SA on the brink of another WCF and that was year 1 with an entire new core. I just personally don't think it's reasonable to expect SA to be able to compete for les while also rebuilding essentially. Can it happen? Sure. And it would be awesome like it was with adding Kawhi (young star who also helped win now). But that is so unlikely.
We know we have a great team now, it will be year 2 together to iron out details and if SA can just lessen the load of guys like TP/Tim/Manu by adding some talent I think that is great.
I just don't think they should focus more on the youth movement than le movement at this stage with this team. You can try to sign players as young as possible, but if they can just sign some guys who aren't old and still have talent I think that is great too.
That's not a great deal of savings relative to moving from 12 to 29.
I know you said "option", but if the Spurs could pull that off, Green wouldn't be going anywhere.
The whole notion of this isn't to trade Green; it's to attempt to upgrade the back court. Unfortunately, he's probably the only semi-realistic trade option that could get them a lottery pick.
Yeah, I'd rank them fifth, out of the five contenders, as far as likelihood of winning the championship.
Leonard can/will improve incrementally, but whatever he gains, there's a cadre of players that are likely to lose.
The whole "if things break their way", doesn't apply in this case because they'd more than likely have to play three series, where they wouldn't be the favorite, to win the championship. In '12-'14, for example, they probably needed a break to beat the Thunder, but that was about it.
The fact that acquiring a starting caliber point guard wouldn't be easy, is all the more reason to look to make a move like this. Baldwin essentially projects as Hill, only with higher upside.
Also, people are forgetting that even flawed, SA's offense finished in the top 3 this year and was really strong the first half of the year. But when Tim/Manu/TP all fell off the 2nd half, the offense looked worse.
Even a player who's just as good as TP was to start the year would be big for this offense along with some more active/athletic big men finishers & another shooter.
It remained efficient, but it wasn't explosive and against the other four elite teams, they struggled mightily to score.
For the first time in five years, I don't think they're close to winning a championship and I don't think it's about "breaks" or "peaking at the right time", either: I think they're flat out not good enough. They can either accept a seemingly inevitable string of 2nd round exits or they can attempt to change their fate.
Pops master plan. Bud never left the Spurs.
The waiting game.....
This guy Juan Hernangomez just sounds like a guy who's destined to be a Spur tbh
So I just realized after that Hawks trade that they need a PG now
Nah they're rolling with Dennis. They could use a back up though which makes Millsy and interesting optionSo I just realized after that Hawks trade that they need a PG now
Damn they must really believe in DS
what's up with tiago? is he just still... unfit to play? what's his outlook?
He's oft injured and still soft.
i was just wondering cause... if he can't play maybe we'd trade back for him and then buy him out for medical reasons.
to make a potential deal easier for atl to swallow.
The bolded part doesn't apply anymore bc it assumes everything and every one stays the same. TD or Manu may or may not return really. That's just the truth. Even if they return, the could have fallen off a cliff from which there is no coming back. Danny worked out bc Manu closed games and was a playmaker played at critical moments. I believe Danny's terrible year was an attempt to expand his game and let him find his,way into a little but of a more versatile role. He wasn't successful at that. He had the worst season of his career. The Martin signing was yo cover for Danny IMO not for KA like many here thought.
At one point I remember seeing an interview from Danny about it where he said he Martin was a possible guy they could consider to close games if he worked out fine. Danny is not ready and may bot ever be a closer bc he's limited. With the decline and possible retirement of Manu they need yo upgrade their backcourt. Technically the guy to move is Tony but he will be we hard to move and some say Spurs just won't move him. That leaves Danny.
We had issues with our backcourt. I have a lot of appreciation for Danny but someone's got to go in order for us Ty o get better and it will probably be someone we need bc we don't have spares. Mills and Dis a are not getting anything much back. Mills was terrible in the playoffs and without Ginobili who knows? He's not worth much more than Anderson IMO who is a but if an enigma for others but is 22 for example and doesn't need Ginobili to play his game. I am not saying there can't be packages with this,guy's in it but they are not worth much. It has to be Danny (or Tony).
THE GOLDEN GOD MIGHT COME BACK???
Trade Parker to the Hawks
DO IT RC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Splitter at center, LMA and Durant at forwards
Kawhi and Conley at guards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cutewizard always posting drunk? lmao
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