Report: Spurs may bring back Matt Bonner

[bklynspursfan]

To those complaining, I'm curious how this really affects anything either way....

[GSH]

How does that work? The Spurs don't have the salary to trade for him. Do you throw in Mills?

If I'm not mistaken (and I frequently am), I think Bonner's Bird rights would let the Spurs do the same thing they did with Manu, which is to sign him for money that puts them over the cap. (Or more than the min, if they're already over the cap.)

I honestly don't know where the Spurs are vs. the cap right now, so I don't know the exact dollar number they would have to pay Bonner to make the salaries match. It wouldn't have to be exactly the amount Smart is getting. But Smart is making about $3.5M, so if they signed Bonner for that amount, I don't think there is anything that would stand in the way of the teams swapping those two.

Bonner has Full Bird at this point, so a 1-year deal would mean that he couldn't be traded with out his consent. But he wants to go to Boston, so that wouldn't be a problem. I don't know... I think it works.


BTW - throwing in Mills would totally defeat the purpose. I'm looking at PG insurance, and maybe a change of pace player for specific situations - with a bonus if Chip could help him with his shot. Losing Mills to gain Smart would be a bad trade.

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If I'm not mistaken (and I frequently am), I think Bonner's Bird rights would let the Spurs do the same thing they did with Manu, which is to sign him for money that puts them over the cap. (Or more than the min, if they're already over the cap.)

I honestly don't know where the Spurs are vs. the cap right now, so I don't know the exact dollar number they would have to pay Bonner to make the salaries match. It wouldn't have to be exactly the amount Smart is getting. But Smart is making about $3.5M, so if they signed Bonner for that amount, I don't think there is anything that would stand in the way of the teams swapping those two.

Bonner has Full Bird at this point, so a 1-year deal would mean that he couldn't be traded with out his consent. But he wants to go to Boston, so that wouldn't be a problem. I don't know... I think it works.


BTW - throwing in Mills would totally defeat the purpose. I'm looking at PG insurance, and maybe a change of pace player for specific situations - with a bonus if Chip could help him with his shot. Losing Mills to gain Smart would be a bad trade.

That's why I asked the question. I was at the mercy of the ESPN trade machine, which is woefully out of date. yet still superior to my NBA salary knowledge.

[dbestpro]

In regards to Bonner to Boston, one way to get younger could be a sign and trade and grab some of the extra youth has. Of course for this to work you might have to see someone like Danny Green traded along with Bonner to get some bench size and youth. Oylnyck or Zeller, plus Smart, maybe Mickey or Hunter or even some of the drat players. Could see a two for four swap to dill out our roster. Od course Boston has to get over its current infatuation of Westbrook and Griffen.

[GSH]

In regards to Bonner to Boston, one way to get younger could be a sign and trade and grab some of the extra youth has. Of course for this to work you might have to see someone like Danny Green traded along with Bonner to get some bench size and youth. Oylnyck or Zeller, plus Smart, maybe Mickey or Hunter or even some of the drat players. Could see a two for four swap to dill out our roster. Od course Boston has to get over its current infatuation of Westbrook and Griffen.

I can't even think through the idea of a multi-player swap this morning. It'll give me a headache. But I'm not crazy about the thought of trading Green, just because the starting 5 looks pretty good right now - especially if Danny comes back hitting some 3's.

You mentioned Westbrook, and the rumors (worth what you pay for them) are saying that Boston really has a shot at getting him. If that were to happen, they REALLY wouldn't need Smart. But Bonner's perimeter shooting would make even more sense. I don't think OKC would be especially interested in Smart as part of a deal, but I could be wrong. If not, the deal I'm talking about would be cap-neutral, so it wouldn't HURT Boston's chances of landing Westbrook.

Every deal is far-fetched. I'm sometimes amazed that any of them happen. I just think Smart fills a need the Spurs have as well as anyone they have a chance at getting, and I'm pretty sure Boston will want to move him. This was the only way I could think of to swing it, without giving up another piece.

[baseline bum]

[loveforthegame]

Bonner will outlast them all.

[GSH]

One more thing - the Celtics are in the middle of a long re-build. Ainge has said flat-out that he's not going to compromise his long-term plan. (Which is what goes wrong with most re-builds.) His realistic goal for this year is to get as deep into the playoffs as possible, and get his young players seasoned with playoff experience.

I don't think Smart is part of Ainge's long-term vision now. And he's not going to contribute much to this year's short-term goals. Bonner's shooting could help them with playoff seeding this year. I also think Ainge might think about putting Bonner in a suit next year. Boston and Bonner are a perfect fit for that. He wouldn't have to sign him this year, to do that - but it wouldn't hurt. Laugh if you want, but it's not out of the question with Ainge's methodical approach.

I rarely propose trades, and I never take part in the ridiculous "Durant for Green and a bag of chips" trade talk that happens every year. I think this is one of those small trades that would give each team a little incremental help, and not have any negative impact on the future of either team.

[james evans]

Maybe Bonner showed the Spurs a contract from the Wolves offering him $13 million and Buford doesn't want to lose him.

[noles1983]

this hoagie eating got

[BillMc]

It's not ideal, but not really worth all the agony on here. He's a big that knows the system and won't take coaching time away from all the new guys who'll really need it. One less thing to worry about. And he's a good team guy, well liked, so hardly a detriment to the team. At a minimum contract he can always be dropped if a talented young big becomes available. The Anti-Bonner crew has the torches and pitchforks out like the stock peasants in some old Universal horror movie.

LJC, who may never be as good as Bonner was, (and my what a low bar that is) taking up a space is a bigger sin.

[SAGirl]

One more thing - the Celtics are in the middle of a long re-build. Ainge has said flat-out that he's not going to compromise his long-term plan. (Which is what goes wrong with most re-builds.) His realistic goal for this year is to get as deep into the playoffs as possible, and get his young players seasoned with playoff experience.

I don't think Smart is part of Ainge's long-term vision now. And he's not going to contribute much to this year's short-term goals. Bonner's shooting could help them with playoff seeding this year. I also think Ainge might think about putting Bonner in a suit next year. Boston and Bonner are a perfect fit for that. He wouldn't have to sign him this year, to do that - but it wouldn't hurt. Laugh if you want, but it's not out of the question with Ainge's methodical approach.

I rarely propose trades, and I never take part in the ridiculous "Durant for Green and a bag of chips" trade talk that happens every year. I think this is one of those small trades that would give each team a little incremental help, and not have any negative impact on the future of either team.

He's going to want Anderson or Bertans plus a first round pick the bas . Maybe even want both forwards, the pick, and propose to send us Smart and flotsam he doesn't play like Young bc Bonner will likely be a FA.

[Ron Swanson]

Can't wait till his Jersey hangs up in the rafters next to Tim Duncan's.

It may go up before Timmy's jersey.

[Spur Bank]

Gosh, that'd be so awful if we signed a 6'10" backup who shot 44% from three last year. And one who turned the ball over three times total in 206 minutes. And one who's defensive contributions still rate out to just about average.

I swear the easiest way to spot a Spurs fan with poor knowledge of the game is to look for ones who trash Matt Bonner.

[FkLA]

Just lol at GSH writing up essay after essay as if a Bonner/Smart swap has any chance of happening.

Anyways, I hope Matty Ice aka the red mamba comes back. The man bleeds silver and black. He deserves to retire a Spur.

[SAGirl]

It's not ideal, but not really worth all the agony on here. He's a big that knows the system and won't take coaching time away from all the new guys who'll really need it. One less thing to worry about. And he's a good team guy, well liked, so hardly a detriment to the team. At a minimum contract he can always be dropped if a talented young big becomes available. The Anti-Bonner crew has the torches and pitchforks out like the stock peasants in some old Universal horror movie.

LJC, who may never be as good as Bonner was, (and my what a low bar that is) taking up a space is a bigger sin.

Probably agree with this and it's why I do see him back. In addition to the fact he's a good character guy while we have so many youngsters, it's necessary to have a vet there to encourage them when there are issues about playing time that do arise in every locker room. The Spurs not airing their dirty laundry and keeping these issues in house doesn't mean that young players are not at times dispirited and discouraged. A recent example, DeColo.

It's also why it's necessary for a younger leader to step up. There's a generational divide. That's really Manu's greatest value at this point, (yes he can play, but $14 mill was paid for his veteran mentoring, specifically mentioned by RC as a concern). Bonner setting an example can only help, rather than adding a potential destabilizing vet who will want playing time and go all SJAX if Pop wants to play his young players and develop.

Now that I think about it, it would not surprise me at all if some vets have turned down the Spurs bc they want guaranteed playing time and they are not going to get that with the Spurs youth movement at this point aside of Dedmon who plays a position they really needed.

[TheGreatYacht]

$27,743,062

That's how much the Spurs have paid this got because of his "corporate knowledge". B, bu, but, but he's a good guy . Who gives a , there's millions of good guys out there. I'm almost certain this has RC's nudes

[BillMc]

Probably agree with this and it's why I do see him back. In addition to the fact he's a good character guy while we have so many youngsters, it's necessary to have a vet there to encourage them when there are issues about playing time that do arise in every locker room. The Spurs not airing their dirty laundry and keeping these issues in house doesn't mean that young players are not at times dispirited and discouraged. A recent example, DeColo.

It's also why it's necessary for a younger leader to step up. There's a generational divide. That's really Manu's greatest value at this point, (yes he can play, but $14 mill was paid for his veteran mentoring, specifically mentioned by RC as a concern). Bonner setting an example can only help, rather than adding a potential destabilizing vet who will want playing time and go all SJAX if Pop wants to play his young players and develop.

Now that I think about it, it would not surprise me at all if some vets have turned down the Spurs bc they want guaranteed playing time and they are not going to get that with the Spurs youth movement at this point aside of Dedmon who plays a position they really needed.

Exactly. Can you see him making a big issue if Bertans is ahead of him in the rotation like SJax did? Enough where they had to remove him from the team? Not going to happen. Cheap way to keep the Spurs culture along and have an experienced body at a place of need to survive the 82 game season.

[BillMc]

Gosh, that'd be so awful if we signed a 6'10" backup who shot 44% from three last year. And one who turned the ball over three times total in 206 minutes. And one who's defensive contributions still rate out to just about average.

I swear the easiest way to spot a Spurs fan with poor knowledge of the game is to look for ones who trash Matt Bonner.

Just lol at GSH writing up essay after essay as if a Bonner/Smart swap has any chance of happening.

Anyways, I hope Matty Ice aka the red mamba comes back. The man bleeds silver and black. He deserves to retire a Spur.

These.

[TheGreatYacht]

Oh, and keep Bonner away from Bertans.

Bertans was actually hitting shots in a close game.

[weeks]

at this point you can't do anything but bow your head..
to the immortal bonner! Four years $25m get it done Mitch

[illusioNtEk]

$27,743,062

That's how much the Spurs have paid this got because of his "corporate knowledge". B, bu, but, but he's a good guy . Who gives a , there's millions of good guys out there. I'm almost certain this has RC's nudes

Without him... we would have not gotten pass the Thunder in 2014. Worth it still?

[ElNono]

Without him... we would have not gotten pass the Thunder in 2014. Worth it still?

@ anybody buying on this fairy tale then and still now

[Chillen]

Might as well have this guy suit up in the coyote costume. At this point this is just a for the fans signing, Bonner is to the Spurs what Scalabrine was to Celtics fans.

[SpurPadre]

$27,743,062

That's how much the Spurs have paid this got because of his "corporate knowledge". B, bu, but, but he's a good guy . Who gives a , there's millions of good guys out there. I'm almost certain this has RC's nudes

THIS

@ anybody buying on this fairy tale then and still now

THIS, Diaw getting starters minutes was the REAL key in that series.