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    My comment was not on women or feminist - it was purely an abortion comment.
    read through the comment thread. this began with ducks claiming trump could get the feminist vote

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    I think Trump is closet anti-abortion - but he's not running on social issues. It's all trade and immigration for him - well, add in "law and order."

    he won't do anything on trade, immigration, or law-and-order, even if were ever to sniff the Oval Office

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    read through the comment thread. this began with ducks claiming trump could get the feminist vote
    Sorry, I don't remember the whole thread - I was just commenting on the recent post.

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    Yesterday Hillary Clinton announced her VP running mate, Tim Kaine. Let me tell you how that decision looks from a persuasion standpoint. I’ll ignore Kaine’s education, experience, political preferences, and anything else that voters say they care about but don’t. Today, let’s just talk about how people will*feel about it.

    For context, consider Trump’s VP running mate, Mike Pence. He’s the perfect choice for Trump because of the contrast it creates. If you started with Trump and removed everything interesting about him, you’d have Pence. Visually, Pence is the washed-out, smaller, duller Trump. That’s perfect contrast. When you see the two of them together, Pence looks like a black-and-white photograph compared to Trump’s full color. In other words, Pence helps to make the top of the ticket look better, and that’s exactly what you want.*

    But Clinton had the extra challenge of being a woman in a sexist country. If she picked another woman as her running mate, it would seem to the public as a gender-based hire and work against her. That would be a losing strategy.

    If Clinton picked an alpha male running mate – a Donald Trump type – it would create an awkward contrast and do nothing to make her look stronger. So Clinton’s best path was to select a beta male with solid credentials. Tim Kaine fits the bill. Considering her available options, she probably made the right choice.

    I polled my Twitter followers to see if they thought Kaine registered to them as an alpha male, beta male, or other. Only 4% said he looked alpha. My poll is far from scientific, but subjectively speaking, I think they got it right. Check out his Google images page here and see if you agree. Remember, I’m only talking about your sexist first impression, not a deeper truth.


    This is all deeply subjective, obviously, but that’s the point. If the public sees Kaine as a beta male to Clinton’s alpha female, that’s their reality. And the Master Persuader filter says this perception will make a difference.

    Clinton will probably win the vote of women. Her problem is men. If you ask a man why he doesn’t like Hillary Clinton, he might say something about her policies and her history. But the persuasion filter says the real reason men don’t like Clinton is that they can’t stand listening to her. Her speaking style reminds men of every bad relationship they have ever had with a woman. We’re all irrational sexists on some level, and Clinton sounds to many male ears like a disgruntled ex-wife, or perhaps your mom who had a really bad day. That’s a problem if you need the male vote.

    Now add Tim Kaine to the mix. In our irrational minds – where we compare everything to our personal experience – Kaine will play the part of the beta male husband whose wife can’t stop complaining about her terrible co-worker, Donald Trump. No guy wants to hear eight years of that. They get enough of it at home.

    My prediction is that Kaine will do nothing to improve Clinton’s standing with women. But the Clinton-Kaine ticket is a persuasion disaster in terms of the male vote. Male egos are probably already at a historical low point.*Kaine puts a face to that movie. Will men vote to watch Hillary Clinton make Tim Kaine her Whitehouseboy for eight years?

    The persuasion filter says they won’t. And after men vote against Clinton, they’ll tell pollsters it had something to do with her policies and her history.

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    I was not familiar with Kaine's speaking style or any other aspect of him, but I was very impressed with his rally speech today. Even if some pundits will say that hillary was already leading in Virginia, I think Kaine will ensure a blue Virginia (13 electoral votes) . In addition, he should be able to help energize the latinos and blacks in Florida, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico , etc. I think hillary made a very good choice.

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    The FOX commentators are saying he's a safe bet because of the Democrat Virginia governor - so no loss in the Senate and brings a swing state. Some suggest that she should have chosen Sherrod Brown who would more likely bring the Bernie people but he's in Ohio (a Republican governor) so a loss of a senate seat.

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    not even a matter of his views on abortion... Trump has never stopped short of degrading women in general when given the opportunity. trump getting the feminist vote is more laughable than getting the hispanic vote
    What is Trump as president going to do against me as a woman?

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    What is Trump as president going to do against me as a woman?
    not my point. i'm talking about his ability to get the votes

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    Well, there's a VP debate that nobody wants to watch.

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    Boots is a very confused man. He doesn't know where he wants to be.

    I'll have to youtube that speech later.

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    So now she has a Spanish Twitter account and does not speak it
    http://twitchy.com/twitchys-3839/201...speak-spanish/

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    I don't see a problem with spanish twitter. Doesn't imply that that user speaks spanish. It just is showing information via spanish.

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    I don't see a problem with spanish twitter. Doesn't imply that that user speaks spanish. It just is showing information via spanish.
    it's ducks!

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    SEEMINGLY DECENT HUMAN BEING’S INVOLVEMENT IN 2016 ELECTION CONFUSES VOTERS

    MIAMI — The involvement of a seemingly decent human being in the 2016 election campaign left American voters stunned and deeply bewildered on Saturday.

    In interviews across the country, voters expressed reactions ranging from

    shock to total incomprehension at the campaign début of a man who, at first blush, exhibits none of the outward characteristics of a sociopath or clinical narcissist.


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    urthermore, the man’s evident failure to be the target of fraud lawsuits, sexual-harassment claims, or federal criminal investigations was, in the parlance of many voters, “weird.”

    “He seems like a nice guy, the kind of person you might enjoy spending time with and getting to know better,” said Harland Dorrinson, age thirty-two, who watched the man’s unveiling on TV. “I don’t know.

    The whole thing feels like some kind of prank.”


    The man’s apparent humanity could spell trouble for his candidacy, as some voters questioned whether he has the capacity for unspeakable evil that is generally considered necessary to win higher office.


    “I’m trying to keep an open mind, but I worry about his lack of experience being a ,” one voter said.


    http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/seemingly-decent-human-beings-involvement-in-2016-election-confuses-voters?mbid=nl_072416%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1 )&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=9247801&spUserID=MTQz NTk4MTA2MDYxS0&spJobID=961916136&spReportId=OTYxOT E2MTM2S0




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    this was a bigger pick then some thought

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