Never expected them to make such a cutthroat move re Livio. Would have expected them to shop him for nothing around the trade deadline but not to waive him a few months after signing him. In any case, it's blatantly clear that Lapro and Forbes are bigger talents.
I thought that both Laprovittola and Forbes should get signed, which meant that they had to cut someone with a guaranteed salary. That just happened to the lowest performing player in the team. Livio is in the same category as Murray, but it is obvious at this stage that Murray is so much more valuable. Livio is still young and could get it all together, unfortunately Spurs don't own his rights anymore.
Livio sucks. I was shocked at the lack of development he showed in SL. It was like the dude was put in cryostasis the last 3 years. I guess no one overseas thought he'd be worth a damn is that why he ended up on Tony Parker's team? Well that didn't help. He had the body and athleticism to be a hybrid SF/PF, but he has the skillset for neither. He can't shoot, he can't dribble, he has no post moves. He's like a poor mans Jeff Ayres and thats pretty in sad. He sucks so much the Spurs ate 2.4mil in salary to give someone else the end of the bench spot, and the Spurs are frugal as when it comes to salaries.
When you look at who got picked after LJC it's not as if they blew the pick. Just before him was Gobert though.
The surprising move by the F.O. was ever taking a flyer on the guy to begin with. I don't see him ever playing at the NBA level. Was this some sort of Porker recommendation. The guy is awful.
Not exactly. They had to sign or renounce him. Renouncing a 1st round pick would send a terrible message to agents, so they went the route of giving him a legit chance. Still, is there another first round pick signed to a rookie contract and then waived during camp? Royce White maybe? I can't think of anyone, at least recently.
In 2013 he played in the Nike Hoop Summit game and scored 27 points and 13 rebounds. His team won the game and he won MVP of the game while outplaying players such as Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Julius Randle. He was still very raw, but in the game he opened a lot of eyes and I guess teams thought he had real potential. I'm not sure what the happened since then though.
why do you and many others not know about his injury? It's not 100% clear if he sucks b/c his knee never recovered or if he just sucks. But ignoring this shows your opinion of him is wrong. He was definitely a decent prospect before his injury. happens in basketball.
I think will freeze over before TheGreatYacht shows some love to an argie.
he got hurt.
never really improved after getting hurt.
What do you expect from a 15 y/o belgian kid who´s fan of a player that is no more, and who´s only other love was another frenchie who has been waived in favour of Manu´s protegee.
As a Scout:
Manu 1/2 50%
Tony 0/1 0%
I know he got hurt. I should have said that I knew he got hurt, but I honestly didn't expect it to affect him that much. Do you think that is the main reason. When exactly did he get hurt?
Lappro should start over Porker. Do the right thing, Pop, and stop servicing the Frenchie's ego. It's bad enough that Porker's ridiculous contract cost us Boban. We are paying Porker like he's a top five PG, even though he wouldn't even sniff much playing time on any NBA team aside from the Spurs. Ridiculous.
I think the question is whether Lapro gets PT equal to Murray. If Parker isn't sitting games out there is only so much time available.
You are sniffing glue if you think Pop is gonna put Lapro ahead of Parker in the rotation. Tony may not be the player he once was, but he is still a huge part of the Spurs system, one of their leaders, and miles ahead of Lapro.
I wouldn't be surprised if he takes the third PG spot tho as they groom Murray.
You're right. I never heard anything about an injury. All I know is what I've seen and what the boxscore has said. He made a name for himself with a great game against future NBA prospects years ago and never lived up to his potential. He's a tweener and doesn't seem to do anything in particular very well. Looks like a SF trying to play PF to me.
well to be honest he was tweener when they drafted him.
Murray will be playing mostly in Austin. Laprovitolla likely will be suited up in almost all games.
He had one good game. He's been living off it ever since. You gotta give him some credit, though. If you're a ty basketball player and you're gonna have the game of your life...
So what jersey is LaproviGOATla wearing?
That was a ty draft. The Spurs had just barely lost the Finals the year before, and had most of their roster coming back. The last thing they needed was some half-assed rookie taking up a roster spot. If there was ever a time that a stash player made sense, that was it. And it wasn't just his performance in the Hoops Summit game. He had gotten a LOT of buzz from the way he played in the practices in the week leading up to the game. There are only a couple of players picked after him who have gotten any meaningful minutes in the NBA:
One is Ray McCallum. He did alright for himself after the Spurs waived him, but Memphis didn't bring him back, even for a min contract. And he was the 15th player to squeeze onto the Pistons' roster this year.
The other is Ryan Kelly, who just got waived and will be playing for the Celtics' D-League affiliate. As bad as Deadmon has looked, Kelly is worse. He's tall, but he's a PF, and I don't think he's got the strength or the balls to play the C.
All things considered, LJC wasn't a bad pick. I think if he had been able to play in the Spurs' system in Austin, they would have pushed him to bulk up, and maybe taught him to play the game the right way. The injury didn't help, but I don't think it's the whole story. He just didn't improve much. But that's not the Spurs' fault.
Edit: Oh, yeah - the Spurs could have picked Isaiah Canaan. He got some decent minutes, and even put up some numbers. But only because he was on a ty Sixers team. They let him go, and he squeaked onto the Bulls' roster, but the expectations for him are not very high. The Spurs sure as won't kick themselves for not drafting him. And all three of those other guys would have been an anchor on the roster in a year when the Spurs won the Championship.
Blowing out his knee could've had something to do with it.
Replied to the above before seeing this.
Every foreign writer has said the knee injury really changed him. Before he was a fantastic prospect and was one to get excited about.
Yeah he was playing for the French u20 team I believe, and he was dominating, then tore his acl. Some people lose the magic and never get it back. As Bagger Vance would say, he has to find his swing. Austin is the perfect place for that.
Which makes Bertans even more of an enigma. Two blown ACLs and another knee surgery, and he has still be able to develop his game and looks like he is ready to keep up with the speed of the NBA.
I know that not every knee injury is created equal...but I feel like some players also don't put in the work to rehab and rebuild that others do.
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