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    Pop must be high on him. He never lets rookies play.

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    TP will be the new Manu. Mills will be too expensive to resign. Murray will start next year, and remain in Pop's doghouse throughout the year.

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    I was not a big fan of Murray, not because he didn't have a lot of potential but more because I thought he was a couple of years away from being a capable starter. It's a very small sample size but his development appears to be on the fast track. He has the demeanor of a PG in wanting to lead and direct already. He's smart enough not to overplay so far and to defer to Kawhii, Manu and others and get his minutes in not forcing things. Fact is the best chance the Spurs have of getting past the Warriors is if Murray can play well and Spurs should force feed him minutes. Patty should only play the nights he's hot. That said I wish Murray had a mid-range game that wasn't a floater from the free throw line.

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    With ease to. Chinook little lap dog is so predictable.

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    I was not a big fan of Murray, not because he didn't have a lot of potential but more because I thought he was a couple of years away from being a capable starter. It's a very small sample size but his development appears to be on the fast track. He has the demeanor of a PG in wanting to lead and direct already. He's smart enough not to overplay so far and to defer to Kawhii, Manu and others and get his minutes in not forcing things. Fact is the best chance the Spurs have of getting past the Warriors is if Murray can play well and Spurs should force feed him minutes. Patty should only play the nights he's hot. That said I wish Murray had a mid-range game that wasn't a floater from the free throw line.
    He's in the best place to learn the mid game, with Kawhi and LA, and even Gasol.

    He's in the best place to learn defense, with Kawhi, DG, and well the Spurs. Maybe Duncan drops by to visit one and awhile.

    He's in the best place to learn to craftiness and moving without the ball, Manu and Mills and the beautiful game.

    He's in the best place to learn to attack the paint, with Parker, Manu and even Simmons.

    But he has his own attributes as well, like his shake and bake and length.

    Imagine this kid grows a couple more inches.

    Parker's attacking and quickness to the rim, with his floater.

    Manu's passing, euro step and body control, passion.

    DG transition defense and blocking.

    Mills gravity from the 3 point line and off the ball moving.

    Kawhi as mid game mentor and role model.

    I'm excited too and know it's just one game... but this seed has found the right soil. Plenty of sunshine in SA too.

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    This was his best extended outing, albeit against a wounded team. The improvement I saw in his game is that he appears to have "gotten over himself" (i.e. doesn't shoot every time he touches the ball) which is a Holy Commandment to get minutes from Pop. Every rookie thinks he has to star when he goes in for a few minutes, but Murray was much calmer last night, and I think it was because the coaches told him he'd get major minutes unless he seriously went hero.

    Having said that, he obviously has been working on his shot with Chip. The crazy sideways twist on the ball on release seems to be gone. Good job, rook. Secondly, his defense was better because he's learned something about rotations and adjusted to the speed of the other guards in the league. Any player on our team would be happy with the stats he had last night. He's obviously putting in the work. If he can pick up the game this fast on a regular basis, he will be earning some rotation minutes later in the season.

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    Murray is redundant as a backup since he offers what Tony offers in offense ( attacking) Mills the curveball the bench needs.


    If anything this game makes me pretty confident that Simmons is gone. Murray is probably going to eat simmons minutes next year.
    My god, learn basketball. Murray and Simmons don't play the same position. Simmons normally comes in for Kawhi. They don't compete for the same minutes.

    In fact, it's likely they'll be playing on the floor together more often then not.

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    Already better than GOAT Austin Daye tbh

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    Already better than GOAT Austin Daye tbh
    I wonder if that dude is still screaming into a pillow somewhere

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    I wonder if that dude is still screaming into a pillow somewhere
    Dude ing stole Spurs beat writers hearts w/ that story. Genius.

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    Wonder if Popped had to be strong armed to give Murray a roster spot instead of his beloved BonBon?

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    hopefully parker sits more games.

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    This boy, Murray, has some game fellas!

    Totally surprised by his development!

    Incredible Spurs coaching staff work right there!

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    Watching those highlights, the defenders were leaving Murray open with 5 feet of space. I think if Patty Mills had that kind of space, he'd make 6 or 7 threes. Credit to the rookie for hitting shots and being aggressive unlike Anderson and often, Bertrans. But Denver wasn't really guarding him well and obviously didn't have a scouting report. A rookie like this might string along two or three good games before teams start paying attention to them. But once the teams start paying attention, they'll take away the easy stuff and make him doing things he's not comfortable doing. So I wouldn't pencil him in as a big contributor this year. And I wouldn't write Parker's or Mills' obituary yet. Murray's timetable is down the road. Sure he might have a good game at home against the lower level teams in the West, but come playoff time, teams will have him scouted and be ready for him.

    Funny enough, I doubt people would be saying such positive things for Parker when he scores 24 points. Good to see that someone other than Kawhi is allowed to score 24 points without being called a ball hog.

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    ^ Murray should also watch tapes of Bonner so he can keep improving his offensive game.

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    Watching those highlights, the defenders were leaving Murray open with 5 feet of space. I think if Patty Mills had that kind of space, he'd make 6 or 7 threes. Credit to the rookie for hitting shots and being aggressive unlike Anderson and often, Bertrans. But Denver wasn't really guarding him well and obviously didn't have a scouting report. A rookie like this might string along two or three good games before teams start paying attention to them. But once the teams start paying attention, they'll take away the easy stuff and make him doing things he's not comfortable doing. So I wouldn't pencil him in as a big contributor this year. And I wouldn't write Parker's or Mills' obituary yet. Murray's timetable is down the road. Sure he might have a good game at home against the lower level teams in the West, but come playoff time, teams will have him scouted and be ready for him.

    Funny enough, I doubt people would be saying such positive things for Parker when he scores 24 points. Good to see that someone other than Kawhi is allowed to score 24 points without being called a ball hog.
    The thing is, defenders will give you space if you have the ability to blow past them. That's why kawhi can shoot 3s from anywhere comfortably.

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    The thing is, defenders will give you space if you have the ability to blow past them. That's why Kawhi can shoot 3s from anywhere comfortably.
    Yes, but Denver was having his defender double off of Murray and leaving Murray wide open. I don't think they were giving him space because of his ability to drive, I think they were doing it because they didn't think he could shoot. But he did what he was supposed to do, shoot it.

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    ^ Murray should also watch tapes of Bonner so he can keep improving his offensive game.
    No, that would be stupid. He's not a stretch 4 or 5. But stretch 4 or 5s should watch Bonner play because he made a 10 year career out of being a stretch 4/5 despite not being a particularly great athlete and being a poor to average defender.

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    Yes, but Denver was having his defender double off of Murray and leaving Murray wide open. I don't think they were giving him space because of his ability to drive, I think they were doing it because they didn't think he could shoot. But he did what he was supposed to do, shoot it.
    He wasn't getting the lebron treatment. Dude is a natural driver. You can't guard him up close.

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    No, that would be stupid. He's not a stretch 4 or 5. But stretch 4 or 5s should watch Bonner play because he made a 10 year career out of being a stretch 4/5 despite not being a particularly great athlete and being a poor to average defender.

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    He wasn't getting the lebron treatment. Dude is a natural driver. You can't guard him up close.
    Watch that clip. His man wasn't giving him space, he was actively doubling Kawhi.

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    Watch that clip. His man wasn't giving him space, he was actively doubling Kawhi.
    I already watched the highlights and watched the game. I beg to differ.

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    No, that would be stupid. He's not a stretch 4 or 5. But stretch 4 or 5s should watch Bonner play because he made a 10 year career out of being a stretch 4/5 despite not being a particularly great athlete and being a poor to average defender.
    really?

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    I already watched the highlights and watched the game. I beg to differ.
    CD is just an ignorant hater. He's been proven to be a clown with his assessment of Murray and is making up to try and save face

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