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    So we should walk on egg s s for terrorists that might already be here?
    No, where did you get that?

    And anyway, how does "not placing a blanket ban on travelers from 7 countries" qualify as "walking on eggs s?"

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    No, where did you get that?

    And anyway, how does "not placing a blanket ban on travelers from 7 countries" qualify as "walking on eggs s?"
    Because your issue is that this ban gave terrorism "marketing material" and leads to more danger. That is the definition of walking on egg s s. Not doing something for fear of what you might make terrorist do/feel.

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    A week in and this guy is a ing disaster already. I can't wait for 20% higher grocery bills until summer thanks to head.
    Yo I came acrossed this while youtubing. Check it out.



    This got Trump is about to start affecting my life directly now.

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    Yo I came acrossed this while youtubing. Check it out.



    This got Trump is about to start affecting my life directly now.
    "When I was a child I played with childish things. When I became a man I put childish things away." Grow the up, Reck.

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    Why is this, if amended to not impact those already legally being here, not the right path and what would be?
    Better intel on the recruitment of people who eventually become terrorists. Better control over how those people are able to obtain the weapons enabling them to commit acts of terror.

    And I think unfortunately we have to start by setting the expectation that we may not be able to prevent a single act of terrorism from ever happening again.

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    They liberals think making something illegal solves the problem.

    Maybe we should just pass a law banning terrorism in the USA?

    They forget about existing laws, and like to make more of the same...

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    ^^^

    [[[“No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America.

    Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.”]]]

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    "When I was a child I played with childish things. When I became a man I put childish things away." Grow the up, Reck.
    Old man, games are a hobby of mine.

    Much like ing around an online board is yours. I dont see a difference between the two.

    In fact, there are studies that say gaming makes you..smarter or something like that.

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    Because your issue is that this ban gave terrorism "marketing material" and leads to more danger. That is the definition of walking on egg s s. Not doing something for fear of what you might make terrorist do/feel.

    "Walking on eggs s" implies being extra careful not to offend. I don't think NOT banning nationals from these countries is being extra careful. It's normal.

    And anyway, that's not my only issue with this ban.

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    November 15, 2015: comments made by Hillary Clinton in a New Hampshire Town Hall

    “I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in,” Clinton said “and I do think that you have to control your borders.”

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    ^^^

    [[[“No person outside of the United States has a “RIGHT” to come to, or live in the United States of America.

    Guest visitation (Visa approval) is a privilege, and emigration is entirely a structure of policy controlled by the executive branch of the U.S. through the Department of State.”]]]
    These people have visas already approved, thus that privilege already granted. The proper procedure would be to revoke those visas. As somebody already pointed out, and courts have already established when Barry tried to pull the same stunt through executive order, it's not a matter of policy, but a matter of law.

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    The biggest problem is with actual permanent residents. It's people legally living and working in the US, and the previous step to actual citizenship. It's crazy that those people now can't even go overseas to conduct businesses, etc, for fear of effectively being unable to come back in to their families, homes and jobs. I have to suspect the bans will be lifted by court order soon, I don't think that's really even legal.
    These people already have permission to be here, have already been vetted.

    What we're doing to this class of people is illegal besides being shameful, immoral and outrageous.

    This deserves to get slapped down by the courts with a quickness: https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/f..._complaint.pdf

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    This ban also applies to legal immigrants. That's the key issue. For tourists, refugees, illegals, etc, it's arguably not that big of a deal.

    Green card holders can be married to American citizens and have fully legal families here. Obtaining such a visa (which is the permanent residency) is extremely difficult (I speak from experience).

    We'll see how this develops, but at least as far as permanent residents goes, I don't think this is going to fly. Although, a court order might take more than 90 days, and nobody knows what happens after that.

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    Yo I came acrossed this while youtubing. Check it out.



    This got Trump is about to start affecting my life directly now.
    The 20% hike on produce wouldn't affect your life directly?

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    lol re ed question

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    US border patrol is checking people’s Facebook for political views

    Border agents are searching refugee’s Facebook accounts to ascertain their religious and political beliefs, according to Mana Yegani of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

    Ms. Yegani told The Intercept that some of those she has consulted – despite having valid visas – have been interrogated by border agents about their political beliefs before being allowed into the country.

    “These are people that are coming in legally. They have jobs here and they have vehicles here,” she said. “Just because Trump signed something at 6pm yesterday, things are coming to a crashing halt. It’s scary.”

    Trita Parsi, head of the Iranian-American Council, also reported that green card holders are being subjected to political interrogations.

    http://usuncut.com/news/us-border-patrol-checking-peoples-facebook-political-views/


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    The 20% hike on produce wouldn't affect your life directly?
    Be more specific. What are you referring to?

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    Lol. I hope Parker somehow gets caught up in the net.

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    Paul Ryan Gets Added to Wikipedia Page on Spineless Animals (Invertebrates)


    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/...iticus+USA+%29

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    Be more specific. What are you referring to?
    Avocados for a starter.

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    Be more specific. What are you referring to?
    Vegetables that come from Mexico in the winter. You eat, right?

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    Vegetables that come from Mexico in the winter. You eat, right?
    Admittedly I'm more of a carnivore so I could live without it if I must but I would rather not.

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    A (very short) list of Republicans in Congress who have criticized Trump’s immigration order

    http://www.vox.com/2017/1/28/1442719...-refugee-order

    Apparently, Trash consulted no lawyers.

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    A NY Judge has also ruled it out.

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