And as long as the black community, even the affluent ones, glorify thug life as if it's some rite of passage for young blacks, the hill to climb to get out of that poverty is even steeper. If whitey is holding you back, what is whitey holding you back from? From being a successful rapper? From being a professional athlete? From building a drug empire? From being a pimp? That's nothing to do with poverty level and everything to do with culture. When millionaire black men are going to clubs and shooting each other over the color of a shirt, that indicates a larger issue.
Leadership in the black community is always a religious figure, it's damn near a black caliphate. They had Louis Farrakhan as someone to look up to, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Tupac and Biggie, Jay Z and some professional athletes. They never looked up to Obama. Never looked up to people like Denzel or Cosby (maybe now that he has some street cred for in hoes and cheating on his wife), or any intellectual or business minded black person. It's always been about "hood" and "street". If poverty is so bad, ing let it go already. Whites did that a long time ago. You never hear middle class whites talking about the projects like it's some elite life training regimen we made it through, or welfare or commodities or other federal as if it's something to be proud of. We don't go into clubs dressed like poor white trash (fads and rich white bikers notwithstanding).
If they want out, stop pretending like they want in. Stop being ashamed of wanting out. Stop attacking others who want out or have successfully escaped the ghettos with this "cornball brotha" bull . I can understand if you're in the hood, in the ghetto, and you're talking like you belong there but you're affluent and have no idea what it's like there, sure. Otherwise, you're in squalor, stop acting like you're the Navy SEALs of the race/class condition.
This is a different issue and a red herring. If the affluent black family down the street wants to lump themselves in with the "black community" then yes, it's in bent upon them to assist less fortunate folks if they want the help (not handout, but help). If you agree that the black community exists, then how can you leave that family out of it? If you do leave them out of it, then they aren't part of the black community so not part of the discussion.
This post reads like your only experience with black people is what Bill O'Reilly tells you about them.
You jumped to a racist conclusion and now you're projecting and deflecting. Even as a ty alt you're getting your pushed in.
holy this is like the primer on basic racism
Quantify what it means to "consider yourself a part of the black community."
Compared to you who watches all the rap battles and knows all the names of the aspiring rappers in Houston?
People are people. I was raised around black folks and spent a lot of time with a team in the military that was all black except me, every day, 24 hours a day. They weren't criminals even though we were all technically at the poverty level when we enlisted. I was raised dirt poor around dirt poor blacks.
Now tell me how my anecdotal evidence is insufficient, assclown.
"Sir, do you consider yourself to be part of the black community?"
"Yes"
or
"No"
When the blacks killing blacks in Chicago is reported, does it feel personal, like your community is under attack? It's one thing to identify with concerns that most blacks have regarding mostly black issues, but quite another to say "us" as in "For Us By Us" aka FUBU.
Are you part of that "us"? If you are, then it's in bent upon you to aid in the effort to correct the issues of the community you align yourself with, and you cannot be unpart of it just for the sake of arguendo.
tbh, this whole gangbanging thing wasn't an issue back in the day when they were getting imported from their homeland (you remember how this whole black thing started, right?).
Maybe they can't handle freedom, tbh... I remember the wise Wild Chodebrah once said the slaveowners treated them well, fed them, etc. what's not to like?
What did your black fellow soldiers say when you told them that black people care too much about being "hood and street" and the poor white people don't have nearly the same tribalist cultural tendencies?
They told me that. I had no idea. I was from a small, low population town in BFE and the blacks there were poor just like the whites. It wasn't until I enlisted that I actually encountered gang . Strawmen arguments don't move me. You can paint whatever picture floats your got boat, but those are your words, not mine.
Maybe some of you should get together and spread your messages of love in the ghettos around the country. Film it.
Like you'd know. You probably sit to piss.
I don't think anyone is required to address a particular social issue in order to expect to be treated fairly or define their own iden y. I haven't done anything in particular to address the epidemic of domestic violence committed by husbands against their wives, but I would still expect due process if I was accused of abusing my wife.
P.S.
You sound like someone who has a lot of level-headed confidence in the direction this conversation is going. I'll let you cool down and we can talk tomorrow.
We shall, tbh
You're on a different topic, slick. Get back in the right lane. No one is talking about stereotyping. We're talking about black crime. If you have a torch to carry for your black neighbor, get headed that way.I don't think anyone is required to address a particular social issue in order to expect to be treated fairly or define their own iden y. I haven't done anything in particular to address the epidemic of domestic violence committed by husbands against their wives, but I would still expect due process if I was accused of abusing my wife.
P.S.
No, I told you already, start a new thread if you want to talk about racial profiling and stereotyping.You sound like someone who has a lot of level-headed confidence in the direction this conversation is going. I'll let you cool down and we can talk tomorrow.
I mean your unhinged (and stereotypical) rant about hip hop and hoes was a little hard to follow but I'm pretty sure I'm keeping up just fine with the primary topic. Black people who aren't criminals get stereotypes every day. They have a right to oppose this, regardless of what they've done to battle black poverty.
I never mentioned the words "hip hop". There's a quote function right there just for situations like this.
Different subject. Everyone gets a stereotype, the board wouldn't exist without it.
As others have pointed out, you have a pattern for honing in on typos and edits when you've run out of argument.
Nope.Different subject.
So wongly paraphrasing me is now a typo? Just use the quote function so you don't have to create a narrative to debate against. It's how the forum works.
Nope.
Why would I go back and quote a three paragraph post that I've already quoted when I can just as easily reference it like I did?
You and anyone reading it know which post I was talking about. You brought up rappers several times in it.
Not hard to follow.
You said hip hop. I never used that term. How is that a reference? Why can't you just use the words I used? Simple actually, it doesn't fit your strawman narrative.
I didn't say rap was to blame. Hip hop isn't rap. Rap is only a facet of hip hop. There's nothing wrong with rap, I actually like several rap songs and artists and I like hip hop. I also like professional sports. It doesn't change the fact that many young black males in inner cities think that rap or sports is their only ticket up, outside of dealing drugs.
Charles Barkley commented once on the NBA on TNT program that he would speak to entire classes in southern cities, predominately black kids, and ask "who wants to be a doctor?" or "who want's to be a cop" or "who wants to be a lawyer" and none of them did. They all wanted to be rappers and athletes. He wasn't talking about 8th graders. Kids who think there are avenues for everyone to be successful in entertainment don't study. At least the athletes stay in school though.
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