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Not black and you're probably right. I think you're very fair about how you view the team, but I really do think this team is missing something but let's see what happens.
FWIW, this is easy and lazy too... predicting they're not going to win it all is basically taking the biggest odds. You can run with that every year and be right most of the time. It's hard to win a championship, and that applies even to the Cavs and Dubs.
I'm pretty sure you felt the same way in 2014 during the regular season (didn't look it up, but shouldn't be hard, tbh). Fact is, this team has some chances, which is all you can ask for. We can discuss the virtues or drawbacks of this roster and the opponents, and then, it's still relative. An injury, a suspension, many things can change a series outcome. That's why the games are played.
Not black and you're probably right. I think you're very fair about how you view the team, but I really do think this team is missing something but let's see what happens.
Like I said, there's no sure thing here. But that applies to every team, even the contenders (whether you include the Spurs there or not).
As far as one man teams, when the Cavs were down 1-3, it did pretty much looked like Lebron took over. Tim in 2003 (and other years) was also just above and beyond anybody else. You get some people to step up and help, but having a stand out player isn't new. Hopefully Kawhi can be that guy when the time comes.
If only everyone would still show up after being wrong like yourself.
Backing your team is now homerism?
I've been here the last 2 years. What are you smoking?
Are you running for office, tbh? I've never seen anyone straddle the fence with their posts more than you and that's saying something. Let's here a take once in a while. I'm not being lazy and I'm not making a prediction. I'm flat out telling you that without penetrating guard play, solid defense and wings that consistently knockdown outside shots, the Spurs chances of winning are drastically reduced. We've seen the mid range jump shooting game play out in the postseason before or did you quite watching last year after the Memphis series sighting this is gonna be just too easy? The team in general isn't even better than last year's team. Shooting %'s inevitably decrease in the postseason so if the Spurs only answer like it has been for the last two season, is to dump it in the post to Leonard and let him try to bail out this fail of a roster, the Spurs chances of winning an NBA championship are very slim. Of course, Spurs fans are hoping and praying that the other elite teams in the conversation out implode the Spurs giving the Silver & Black a sliver of hope.
This can literally be said about any team that's ever played in the NBA playoffs.... except the 2016 Grizzlies, they had no chance.and then, it's still relative. An injury, a suspension, many things can change a series outcome. That's why the games are played.
Spurs are pathetic with their personnel decisions.
Spurs get Joel Anthony and the Blazers get Nurkic for a bag of chips. Nurkic would have been a great get for the Spurs. He seems to be playing well for the Blazers.
What do you mean? I post takes all the time. Raymond Green is overrated AF, this team will not ring for a while once both Manu and Tim retire, Patty will get paid over the summer and the Spurs will likely won't be able to afford him, etc, etc, etc, you can find takes all around. They could be wrong, I'll own them. This post you just made has a lot more meat to it, and that's what I'm talking about. I might not agree with your take (or agree only in certain areas), and that's the whole point.
The defense is fine. You need a top 5 defense, and the Spurs are a top 5 defense. Do they sometimes get burned on the perimeter? Sure. But other teams get burned as much in the same or other areas. The Rockets are not a better defensive team than we are. The Clippers are not either. At least from what we've seen so far.
Are we betting the farm on Kawhi and LMA being able to exploit mismatches? Sure. Is that not a sure bet? Absolutely. But it's probably a better bet than 90% of the league. That's what gives the Spurs a chance that the other 90% of the teams don't have. There's never been a sure thing, that *IS* the point. If you bet money on the 73 wins Dubs winning it all last year, which looked as sure a bet as imaginable, you lost. That's not straddling the fence, that's the reality of this sport. And maybe if Raymond doesn't do something stupid, the Dubs do win.
Now, if you ask me if the ceiling for this team is the 2nd round, I gotta ask you, who are we playing in the 1st and 2nd round? Do we have guys hurt, do they? That stuff matters. Wouldn't you agree that, despite the flaws you see on this team, this is a top 4 team in the current West? I think that's a fair assessment.
I'm not calling you lazy for having an opinion (the post I'm quoting isn't lazy), it's the Darius Bieber style "we suck and we're done" with no points to it that adds nothing to the conversation, IMO.
You mean they're not the favorites for the le?
Sensational insight, worthy of a thread per par
Lol this take
Don't forget regular season games are meaningless (2015)I still think the Raymond thread was a troll thread when it started.
The problem with the Spurs is other than Kawhi, they lack players that play on both sides of the ball. They can bring in guys to boost the offense (Lee, Mills, Bertans, Gasol), but when they do, that top five defense is no longer. They can bring in guys to spark the defense (Deadman, Anderson, Ginobili, Aldridge?) and when they do, the offense struggles to put points on the board. It's sad how Danny Green doesn't fit into either of those categories anymore. The defense can be good but lacks any type of consistency to be great. What this means is the Spurs can play lockdown defense on one possession then, give up an uncontested layup on the next. The fact that the league is worse than last year's gives the Spurs a punchers chance but the Spurs lack of depth and Pop's willingness to trust and overuse scrubs/role players in high leverage situations will be the death of this team in the postseason.
I'm not upset with losing a game, it's the way they lost the game, missing long jump shots instead of attacking the painted area and creating easy opportunities. That's all they know. Aren't you sick and tired of hearing "Well, the Spurs had lots of open looks. If only they could knock them down." It's way to reminiscent of last year's team that lost to OKC.
2 and 4 at home in the last two postseasons against LAC and OKC and losing HCA four times during that span. I mean, do we really want home court advantage? This roster isn't more talented than Cleveland's or Golden State's. They'd have to play perfect basketball and still have to hope those team's make some mistakes down the stretch to give the Spurs a chance.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 03-16-2017 at 02:39 AM.
If Durant isn't healthy by playoff time this le run is about as wide open as I have ever seen. The top 5 teams (Warriors, Spurs, Rockets, Cavs, Clippers) all look like they'd be pretty evenly matched with no Durant or Durant in the playoffs.
We lost. It happens. Move on. They will be fine.
Agree with this
Against which Western Conf playoff opponents will the Spurs have the coaching advantage?
Kawhi had 34 and the rest of the starters had 39 points combined.
Hey, I don't claim to be right all the time...Don't forget regular season games are meaningless (2015)
Then again, I had the same outlook in 2014. That doesn't mean I guaranteed a championship, what it means is that I see a team that can compete with most of the compe ion, and a few breaks here or there (which every champion needs) can get us over the hump. Writing them off right now makes no sense, tbh. Realistically speaking, you don't write off a near 60 win team... you just don't.
Well, this being a top-heavy, jump shooting team isn't any new revelation. So yeah, it's more dependent on having a hot hand and making the open looks. Defense will help you get some easy points, and when the defense is lacking, it's going to hurt us, no doubt about it. Then again, we're 3/4 into the season, and it's hard to fathom this particular roster having more success playing differently. The bench tries to move the ball more, but you just can't do much of that with the starters. Every team tries to play to their strengths, tbh... the Dubs gutted their team for Durant, and also changed the way they play. They're worse than last year, IMO (which doesn't imply they're not better than the current Spurs), so every team goes through transitions like that.
I don't think the Spurs are even thinking much about HCA outside the first few rounds. It's all about getting better as a team. Nights like these are disheartening, but it also has to be put in perspective: this team was also coming off a 9 or so game winning streak. You relax after stuff like that.
I would tend to agree that this team isn't more talented than the Cavs and Dubs, but in a 7 game series, I think they can compete. They would need some of the cold hands to get hot (Patty, Danny), but it has happened before. I just think writing them off is a mistake...
An article on why the Spurs may not be le contenders, not a perfect article by slender interesting points:
http://www.foxsports.com/nba/gallery...ldridge-031617
If only you watched every Thunder, Grizzlies, Rockets, Cavs, or Warriors games..and evaluate all of their games instead of reading box scores or watching selective games
Your tune would be different..tbh.
Spurs the only team that has significant flaws? Ok. They're still more consistent than 99% of the league..and have been for 20 years lol.
Spoiled fan base tbh. You don't even know what mediocre really is..
I dunno what your expectations are bruh..but it's a shame how miserable as a fan you must be...
Yep, that's the team I've been watching. Except in addition to the team's missing the wide open threes, Pau and Kawhi missed some crucial bunnies last night. The bum teams that the Spurs have lost games to - in the manner they lost - just make you shake your head.Don't forget regular season games are meaningless (2015)
The problem with the Spurs is other than Kawhi, they lack players that play on both sides of the ball. They can bring in guys to boost the offense (Lee, Mills, Bertans, Gasol), but when they do, that top five defense is no longer. They can bring in guys to spark the defense (Deadman, Anderson, Ginobili, Aldridge?) and when they do, the offense struggles to put points on the board. It's sad how Danny Green doesn't fit into either of those categories anymore. The defense can be good but lacks any type of consistency to be great. What this means is the Spurs can play lockdown defense on one possession then, give up an uncontested layup on the next. The fact that the league is worse than last year's gives the Spurs a punchers chance but the Spurs lack of depth and Pop's willingness to trust and overuse scrubs/role players in high leverage situations will be the death of this team in the postseason.
I'm not upset with losing a game, it's the way they lost the game, missing long jump shots instead of attacking the painted area and creating easy opportunities. That's all they know. Aren't you sick and tired of hearing "Well, the Spurs had lots of open looks. If only they could knock them down." It's way to reminiscent of last year's team that lost to OKC.
2 and 4 at home in the last two postseasons against LAC and OKC and losing HCA four times during that span. I mean, do we really want home court advantage? This roster isn't more talented than Cleveland's or Golden State's. They'd have to play perfect basketball and still have to hope those team's make some mistakes down the stretch to give the Spurs a chance.
Last edited by sasaint; 03-16-2017 at 11:14 AM.
This is taking it a bit too far IMO
Would not be surprised if we lost to GS/Cleveland/Houston/LAC, though. Think we'd be favored against the latter two, but still wouldn't shock me at all if they managed to lose.
Very confusing and wordy post. Can you clarify?
Both teams played hard.
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