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    Yep. Im legit sad. Haven't felt this way since TD announced retirement.
    me too... I feel the same... although good to hear it's a muscle injury he can recover from.

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    Murray needs to be part of the picture next year going forward but to the people who think he should or will be our starter are DEAD WRONG in that approach. Kawhi is entering his prime and yes the Warriors will be tough to compete with but the Spurs can't afford to "somewhat rebuild" when Kawhi isn't even under contract for more then 2 years
    I agree that Murray hasn't shown anything to point to him being a starter. But I'm hoping that he develops and proves me wrong. That being said, I don't think you break the bank for Paul and end up with another old player locked in on a big money contract.

    If they were closer to the Warriors, then maybe. But as I said, I don't think he puts them close enough. Other than the hope that Murray develops, I don't know that they have a good answer for GSW. And a lot of that falls on the disappointment of LMA and Pau.

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    Mike Conley?

    In any event, TP is a proud athlete -- he'll likely play 2-3 more years as a mentor (not a starter). Even at that, he can likely have some nice moments in big games. I think TP loves this life too much to walk away without a fight.
    Conley just received the biggest contract in NBA history last offseason. Sadly.

    Yeah, if Patty stays him and TP would be a great backup backcourt to have. Murray the starter

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    ACL or meniscus would have been better for him. He should just retire, this will be tough to come back from at his age and probably take all of next season.

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    Ruptured quad tendon is a knee injury and pretty severe, it's worse than torn ACL or MCL for example. The only positive is that it doesn't compromise the structure of the knee because it's at the top and would fully heal in time, a long time though. They'll prob drill holes in his patella to attach it back. Ouch.
    you are right but better as far as I know than the joint

    anyway it sucks but not career ending suck... well hopefully

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    ACL or meniscus would have been better for him. He should just retire, this will be tough to come back from at his age and probably take all of next season.
    It's cool. It's an extra season of rest so he'll be ready for the contract extension.

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    Done for the year, but it's better than an ACL injury. Recovery time for a torn quad is 4-6 months iirc.

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    It was a good run, RIP Parker

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    I know too soon, but can someone who knows cap better than I do explain what happens to cap next season? If he retires (doubtful because why leave that money?) he falls off the cap. But if he's ruled out for all of next season, how does DPE play into the offseason?

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    I know too soon, but can someone who knows cap better than I do explain what happens to cap next season? If he retires (doubtful because why leave that money?) he falls off the cap. But if he's ruled out for all of next season, how does DPE play into the offseason?
    You don't get an exception for a season ending injury.

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    Done for the year, but it's better than an ACL injury. Recovery time for a torn quad is 4-6 months iirc.
    Two months in a cast and 6-10 months rehab dependent on age. I'd assume he's be on the higher end of that range though he will obviously have access to a better care and rehab team than most. But given his health issues in the past, still assume you're talking the better part of 10 months or more for his rehab cycle.

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    ACL or meniscus would have been better for him. He should just retire, this will be tough to come back from at his age and probably take all of next season.
    i think the ACL would have been worse. the think about the quad is there really isn't much else surrounding it that would also get damaged. the negative is the low amount of blood flow delays the healing process and the amount of time it will be immobilized will cause his leg to lose some strength. still, this is not a career ending injury. and the ACL would not have necessarily been the case either (sean played without an ACL in one knee).

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    Two months in a cast and 6-10 months rehab dependent on age. I'd assume he's be on the higher end of that range though he will obviously have access to a better care and rehab team than most. But given his health issues in the past, still assume you're talking the better part of 10 months or more for his rehab cycle.
    i would say depending on how much strength he loses, that will determine the amount of time he is out. best case scenario would have him back somewhere at the start of 2018.

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    i would say depending on how much strength he loses, that will determine the amount of time he is out. best case scenario would have him back somewhere at the start of 2018.
    It's no secret he has had weight issues in thee past. With a slowing metabolism it will be about more than just rehab of the quad.

    ACL injuries are a six month turnaround now in the NBA and NFL. Would have been far easier for him to recover from and actually play next season.

    Do one of the cap people know, could Spurs buy him out and then resign him year after next if he can make it back?

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    two months in a cast means serious muscular atrophy, up and down the leg, hip.

    I don't know whether pro athlete trainers can avoid or minimize that.

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    You don't get an exception for a season ending injury.
    Yes, you do. Next season, not this season.

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    two months in a cast means serious muscular atrophy, up and down the leg, hip.

    I don't know whether pro athlete trainers can avoid or minimize that.

    No way around that. It's part of why that rehab period is so long. That and blood flow to the tendon.

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    I'd love to have CP3 but I'm not on board paying him the max amount. Too much potential downside as he gets older. And I don't think he's enough to put the Spurs over the top or even get them close to the Warriors. I hate to say it but I'd rather them stick this out with Murray. Hopefully Parker and Manu retire. That being said, it's painful to think of them wasting more of Leonard's prime years.
    Absolutely...
    I am unsure about it right now and honestly, I am still really, really sad about this happening to "the Phoenix".. dude was a warrior and a true "Phoenix" this season (as you called him ironically) with the resurgence he was having... Anyways, losing Manu too (again we love him but he really should retire)... it's tough to tell.

    I agree that Murray hasn't shown anything to point to him being a starter. But I'm hoping that he develops and proves me wrong. That being said, I don't think you break the bank for Paul and end up with another old player locked in on a big money contract.

    If they were closer to the Warriors, then maybe. But as I said, I don't think he puts them close enough. Other than the hope that Murray develops, I don't know that they have a good answer for GSW. And a lot of that falls on the disappointment of LMA and Pau.
    I agree with you. It's tough to tell... without the Phoenix this season they wouldn't have even gotten out of the first round, let's be honest. So in that sense, yes Lamarcus and Pau both have disappointed. I don't think either could have done what Tony did for the team and was doing...

    Players to watch right now for the rest of the postseason are Mills and Simmons... both are likely to get the heaviest share of scoring and creating minutes and both are FA. See, to even retain the level of team that they have they will have to spend anyways, so relying more on Murray seems like a real scenario.

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    two months in a cast means serious muscular atrophy, up and down the leg, hip.

    I don't know whether pro athlete trainers can avoid or minimize that.
    They'll certainly have to rely on BigPharma and BigAg to help him get through it.

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    Yes. Im sure you remember, when they looked like they were about to go on a run, and TD missed like a layup or got blocked or something. And he reacted in a way that I really though to myself, this was it.
    You guys are wrong. I don't think TD intended that game to be his last game. He just wanted to win so I think that is why he reacted that way. I read he tried to start his normal workouts in June, but his good knee still wasn't responding like he expected, so that is why he called it quits. I'm pretty sure that he intended to play if his good knee healed during the off-season.

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    Absolutely...
    I am unsure about it right now and honestly, I am still really, really sad about this happening to "the Phoenix".. dude was a warrior and a true "Phoenix" this season (as you called him ironically) with the resurgence he was having... Anyways, losing Manu too (again we love him but he really should retire)... it's tough to tell.


    I agree with you. It's tough to tell... without the Phoenix this season they wouldn't have even gotten out of the first round, let's be honest. So in that sense, yes Lamarcus and Pau both have disappointed. I don't think either could have done what Tony did for the team and was doing...

    Players to watch right now for the rest of the postseason are Mills and Simmons... both are likely to get the heaviest share of scoring and creating minutes and both are FA. See, to even retain the level of team that they have they will have to spend anyways, so relying more on Murray seems like a real scenario.
    Yeah...it sucks. Parker stepped up when no one else did (besides Leonard). He kept them in the games and made shots when they absolutely needed them. Without him, I'm not sure we get through Memphis.

    I agree with Mills and Simmons. But I'd also add Green to your list. Over the last few weeks, he's actually looked pretty good at taking the ball to the rim. He's still very inconsistent at hitting the 3. But when he's on, he has to be accounted for.
    Mills is what he is. I hope Simmons can continue to bring what he did last night.

    As to next year, I think Mills and Simmons are replaceable. The Spurs have always been able to find someone that can knock down threes. Neal, Barry, Mason, etc. Mills isn't a skilled enough PG to justify what he's probably going to ask for. I'd rather them keep Simmons for a reasonable amount than overpay Patty.

    But the reality is, unless Murray steps up, the team could be stuck in a holding pattern. I don't envision LMA or Pau having better years ahead. And other than Murray, there's not anyone in the system to be excited about. Which is why I hate to say that it would be best if Manu and Parker hang it up after this season and free up some money.

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    No way around that. It's part of why that rehab period is so long. That and blood flow to the tendon.
    yep, muscles are truly "Use It or Lose It"

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    Absolutely...
    I am unsure about it right now and honestly, I am still really, really sad about this happening to "the Phoenix".. dude was a warrior and a true "Phoenix" this season (as you called him ironically) with the resurgence he was having... Anyways, losing Manu too (again we love him but he really should retire)... it's tough to tell.


    I agree with you. It's tough to tell... without the Phoenix this season they wouldn't have even gotten out of the first round, let's be honest. So in that sense, yes Lamarcus and Pau both have disappointed. I don't think either could have done what Tony did for the team and was doing...

    Players to watch right now for the rest of the postseason are Mills and Simmons... both are likely to get the heaviest share of scoring and creating minutes and both are FA. See, to even retain the level of team that they have they will have to spend anyways, so relying more on Murray seems like a real scenario.
    Spurs youngins need to grow up very quickly now.

    Sad to see that was likely Tony Parker's last game as the Spurs. His body can't hold it together anymore, too much milleage and he's not going to be able to revover from this at his age.

    Manu could recover from last year's injury because what was damaged wasn't exactly something you need in a game.

    I must say... the big three played until their bodies brokedown. Unbelievable!

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    Jeff McDonald‏Verified account @JMcDonald_SAEN · 3m3 minutes ago

    Spurs announce it: MRI reveals ruptured left quadriceps tendon for Tony Parker. He will miss the remainder of the playoffs.

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    Jeff McDonald‏Verified account @JMcDonald_SAEN · 3m3 minutes ago

    Spurs announce it: MRI reveals ruptured left quadriceps tendon for Tony Parker. He will miss the remainder of the playoffs.
    Thanks for sharing.
    sad news.

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