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    I purposefully sprained my ankle as soon as i saw this thread so that I could give an educated answer on the topic brought up by OP. It hurts like heck!! It took me 3 tries of jumping up & landing on an uneven surface to get a good pop in my ankle. I'm not sure if the pop came from a ligament or a bone, but i will keep ya'll updated as soon as the swelling & the bleeding stops
    That's dedication.

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    Hey GSH, would you let him play if it was your decision? or do you not know enough about the grade of his sprain to be able to answer that? Since he's done it 3 times in under 2 weeks, what's your opinion on that?

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    Hey GSH, would you let him play if it was your decision? or do you not know enough about the grade of his sprain to be able to answer that? Since he's done it 3 times in under 2 weeks, what's your opinion on that?

    Unless someone here has inside information, none of us knows. I know the mechanics of the injury. And I live with some chronic problems from "playing through" overuse injury. If I had it to do over? If I'm being honest, I'd still probably hide how badly I was hurting to try and get to play. And it would still be dumb.

    But I can't answer your question without being a pretty big jackass. I don't know anything for sure... not one damn thing. But after a sprain that kept him out of a playoff game, and two consecutive tweaks of that same ankle in the first game back? The likelihood that there is some micro-tearing in there, at the very least, is pretty high. Some of the top sports docs now just assume that there is some micro-fissure involved in virtually every sprain. I'm confident that the Spurs will have appropriate caution with the future of the franchise, and David Schmidt is damn good at what he does so they're well-informed.

    My gut? I just saw him walking down the steps off the plane. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't see him in Game 3. Read what Lefty said above about repeat sprains.

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    Last time I sprained my ankle I was actually in HEB in the sauces aisle, someone dropped a jar of honey and it broke when it hit the ground. It just happened that Kyle Anderson and Pau Gasol were there, and I back up quickly and avoided the honey which was actually cold and pretty thick, but it got both Pau and Anderson, and they looked at each other, and then at me, and we all started laughing. Then I sprained my ankle in the parking lot stepping off a curb.

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    Worried about Syndesmosis?

    I hope he's ready to play.

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    btw, I thought the OP was saying that mods are changing his takes.

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    Nobody has a personal anecdote from playing basketball and twisting an ankle? How long it took to recover, was it painful, etc?

    Trying to gauge what kind of timeline we're looking at with Kawhi's injury...
    For me it was always like 2 weeks tops. Friend of my twisted ankles so many times, that he can still feel it after 1 year, but he can play.

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    best read of the day.. cheers mate

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    completely OT (except for our docs here) but yesterday I learned you can treat moderate asthma exacerbations and severe allergies/hay fever with 12mg Decadron mixed in orange juice (or w/e). It can replace having to give someone a Prednisone burst or dose pack, and it's just a one-time treatment. It's probably a therapy that's been around for ages but I found it pretty interesting, and effective on the first pt I tried it on. I don't think it applies to ortho cases but maybe some docs here know better
    I've never heard of that but then again they only teach you the stepwise approach for managing asthma in school. I did however learn that for an asthma exacerbation you can use a ing strong cup of coffee if the patient doesn't have Albuterol handy.

    In theory it's almost like giving theophylline since they're both xanthine derivatives.

    Good on the Deca. I'm gonna look into it...

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    Yeah, and Timmy developed chronic problems because of continuing to play with injuries. Look up "tendinosis". It's an over-use injury, and it never goes away. Basically, if you don't give tendons time to fully heal and replace damaged collagen, the body will sort of patch the area with what amounts to scar tissue. The scar tissue isn't stretchy like the original collagen. It's a problem in itself, but it also leaves the tendon weakened and subject to future injuries.

    They never announced the grade of the original sprain. But even if it was a Grade 1, it was bad enough that he didn't play the next playoff game. Getting that same ankle "tweaked" that soon afterward - not once, but twice? There's going to be some tearing, even it it's only what is known as micro-fissures. Could he play with that? Sure - especially with a shot of lidocaine and a couple of Toradol. Is it a risk of more serious, longer-lasting problems? Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't play with any tearing still present in a tendon.

    That's just the mechanics of how it works. Without knowing what's on his scans, and what his physical workup looked like, there's zero chance of guessing whether they'll let him play soon. And the Spurs clearly aren't giving any hints.
    1. Yes but tendenosis in the patellar region not the ankle
    2. I'm pretty sure we got a nice long career out of Duncan, 2005's double ankle bogey or no
    3. No, the MRI showed no structural damage to Kawhi

    Rub some dirt on it and play. We need our main guy to slap that stupid y smirk off of GS's eating faces.

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    Nobody has a personal anecdote from playing basketball and twisting an ankle? How long it took to recover, was it painful, etc?

    Trying to gauge what kind of timeline we're looking at with Kawhi's injury...
    It depends on the severity for the rehab time, but my guess is that Kwahi will try to cowboy up and play on it.

    I got a sprain and kept playing on it as soon as I could. Strapped it up and played on. Kept getting reinjured and kept playing. But of course I wasn't getting the same quality of medical care as a star pro athlete. Nevertheless, the ankle bothered me for years after I graduated and didn't get back 100%. Sometimes I could trip on the flowers in my Grandma's rug.

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    Not something I would openly admit.

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    1. Yes but tendenosis in the patellar region not the ankle
    2. I'm pretty sure we got a nice long career out of Duncan, 2005's double ankle bogey or no
    3. No, the MRI showed no structural damage to Kawhi

    Rub some dirt on it and play. We need our main guy to slap that stupid y smirk off of GS's eating faces.

    Yes, it was a different tendon - plus it's Kawhi's left leg, and not the right. Totally invalidates everything I said. Thanks for the correction.

    As long as "we" get a nice long career out of Kawhi, permanent damage really isn't an issue. So, yes, abo ely - the Spurs should rub some dirt on it and send him on the court, no matter what. Stupid, y smirks have to be wiped off at any cost.

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    When I was young, I sprained my ankle on our very first game of the season, it was bad but it only took 4 days to heal. About 3 months ago, sprained it again snowboarding, it wasn't that bad it didn't swell as bad as first time. However, this time it took more than 2 weeks until I can walk back to normal. I guess age slows down healing as well..

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    Yes, it was a different tendon - plus it's Kawhi's left leg, and not the right. Totally invalidates everything I said. Thanks for the correction.

    As long as "we" get a nice long career out of Kawhi, permanent damage really isn't an issue. So, yes, abo ely - the Spurs should rub some dirt on it and send him on the court, no matter what. Stupid, y smirks have to be wiped off at any cost.
    If he can play he should play. Shelving him to be safe is ridiculous. This is the WCFs.

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    1-2 years tbh

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    sounds legit, tbh

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    After seeing KL come out the plane yesterday I would have to say he will play. Seems it was a grade 1 sprain which is good... I'm guessing he will be at 80% to 90% come game time. Let's hope KL stays healthy from here on out.

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    This one time I was sitting on my ass for a long time and my right foot fell asleep. I mean completely numb like paralyzed so I didn't notice it. So when I finally stood up I sprained my ankle bad on the first step I took. Hurt like but within 72 hours I was able to return to sitting on my ass without any ankle pain at all.

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    This one time I was sitting on my ass for a long time and my right foot fell asleep. I mean completely numb like paralyzed so I didn't notice it. So when I finally stood up I sprained my ankle bad on the first step I took. Hurt like but within 72 hours I was able to return to sitting on my ass without any ankle pain at all.
    woha... thanks for sharing... and just to be clear, you're not a professional athlete, correct?

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    woha... thanks for sharing... and just to be clear, you're not a professional athlete, correct?
    Boris Diaw I think.

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    He won't be at 100% no way no how no matter what grade. Typically, for a grade 1-2 ankle sprain 5-10 days and that's with round the clock therapy (estim/diathermy/hot/cold packs/massage/joint mobility exercises/etc.)--even at that the joint is still too unstable and any 'tweak' could lead to further injury. If the Spurs win on Saturday w/o KL, I could see him being a game time decision for game 4 but I'd be very surprised to see him suit up --it looked pretty severe. My best guess he gets shut down for the rest of the year.

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    If he can play he should play. Shelving him to be safe is ridiculous. This is the WCFs.

    WCF's call for a special kind of dirt? Or do you just rub it in differently?

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    He won't be at 100% no way no how no matter what grade. Typically, for a grade 1-2 ankle sprain 5-10 days and that's with round the clock therapy (estim/diathermy/hot/cold packs/massage/joint mobility exercises/etc.)--even at that the joint is still too unstable and any 'tweak' could lead to further injury. If the Spurs win on Saturday w/o KL, I could see him being a game time decision for game 4 but I'd be very surprised to see him suit up --it looked pretty severe. My best guess he gets shut down for the rest of the year.
    I disagree with some of what you've stated w/ exception to the 5-10 days of round the clock RICE.. Professional athletes get paid to play, this is a season defining game, if the player is 75% or more he'd plays. I was an athletic most of my life & competed at a reasonably high lvl according to some. Tweaked ankles are common, and we play through them all the time. If this was the regular season he'd be out 3 games probably, but this is not the RG season its the playoff's.. And the likelihood of KL reinjuring his ankle worse is highly unlikely. The fact that the staff doesn't give details should not discourage fans, its more of a keep the info in-house gives opponent less of an edge in game planning.

    All this being said i find myself tripping over my own feet and getting tweaks here and there much easier as i have gotten older, price i paying for playing for many years with tweaks.. Ankles never fully heal the same.

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    I disagree with some of what you've stated w/ exception to the 5-10 days of round the clock RICE.. Professional athletes get paid to play, this is a season defining game, if the player is 75% or more he'd plays. I was an athletic most of my life & competed at a reasonably high lvl according to some. Tweaked ankles are common, and we play through them all the time. If this was the regular season he'd be out 3 games probably, but this is not the RG season its the playoff's.. And the likelihood of KL reinjuring his ankle worse is highly unlikely. The fact that the staff doesn't give details should not discourage fans, its more of a keep the info in-house gives opponent less of an edge in game planning.

    All this being said i find myself tripping over my own feet and getting tweaks here and there much easier as i have gotten older, price i paying for playing for many years with tweaks.. Ankles never fully heal the same.
    The Spurs don't play players (no matter who they are) unless Pop feels they're healthy enough to play and aren't at risk for further injury. You can look back at their past history regarding injured players--and yes you can cause further damage to an already unstable joint--you can go from a grade 1 sprain to a grade 3 to possible surgery. I highly doubt Pop would risk KL future on a series that no one expected them to win and are already down 0-2.

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