Give up the trading Aldridge talk tbh...

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I want to move LMA and Pau. I do now t want CP3. And Deadman might as well be dead. No way Pop brings him back. He is so deep in Pop's doghouse that Bonner is a more likely candidate to return.

My thoughts on the Dedmon situation . . .

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...59#post9016959

I have to ask, why are you so convinced about Mills?

To paraphrase Pop, who recently said, we're going to have to him a gazillion dollars or something to that effect.

As you know, I never thought he was going anywhere anyway and the Parker injury only made it less likely.

It's simple: They'd want him back anyway, but barring significant roster upheaval, which I've delved into, they don't have the means to replace him. Lose him and they'd lose Dedmon and unless they got lucky, the ability to sign a decent replacement because the MLE would then have to go to a point guard.

[sasaint]

My thoughts on the Dedmon situation . . .

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...59#post9016959

I hope your read is right about Deadman, but I am very skeptical. I think Pop stopped playing him long before you acknowledge, and that it was, therefore, not due to the exigencies of playoff matchups.

[sasaint]

if not for the Leonard injury, this Spurs team actually had a chance against that joke of an overpowered cheating GS team, even though LMA (and almost everyone else) is dead weight. think about that.

I say just take another 50 win season. then if LMA opts in, trade his expiring contract, but hopefully he opts out. 2018 offseason has great potential

I was stunned by the Spurs' performance in game 1 before Zaza mugged Kawhi, and I agree with Jalen Rose: the Spurs would probably be up 2-1 at this juncture (Rose), and the Dubs would be on the brink of imploding (me). I never saw that coming, and it makes me completely re-think my position on Pop.

I don't even care about this series, I never expected Aldridge to do well against Draymond Green. But him being unable to score on Harden and Ryan Anderson for most of the second round was proof enough that he's gotta go.

I still believe this, though. I didn't want us to sign LMA, and I still don't like his game or want him one the team.

[HarlemHeat37]

As much as I dislike him, I'd still keep him, tbh, unless they get an offer that blows them away..unfortunately, his stock is at rock bottom after this playoff run, especially since the media has been constantly bashing him, as well..

Spurs have to hope that Aldridge gets motivated by this poor playoff run..most importantly, he needs to take basketball seriously and work on his ing body, stop coming into camp overweight..he's at an age where physical fitness is more important than it has ever been for him..

His style of play is already difficult to built around, but it's exacerbated by carrying excess weight..

[raybies]

My thoughts on the Dedmon situation . . .

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...59#post9016959




To paraphrase Pop, who recently said, we're going to have to him a gazillion dollars or something to that effect.

As you know, I never thought he was going anywhere anyway and the Parker injury only made it less likely.

It's simple: They'd want him back anyway, but barring significant roster upheaval, which I've delved into, they don't have the means to replace him. Lose him and they'd lose Dedmon and unless they got lucky, the ability to sign a decent replacement because the MLE would then have to go to a point guard.

If he goes out on a bad note any hype he might have should be dead, so you figure that has to shave some off the asking price. Not to mention the hometown discount. Danny took 10 million per. With that being said do you think Patty is more valuable? Real talk here. How much do you pay a place holder point guard and for how long? You might have to draft another point guard, but i definitely think we need a veteran guard that will be a steady hand when Murray isn't playing well. Juwan Evans or Frank Jackson maybe.

[raybies]

As much as I dislike him, I'd still keep him, tbh, unless they get an offer that blows them away..unfortunately, his stock is at rock bottom after this playoff run, especially since the media has been constantly bashing him, as well..

Spurs have to hope that Aldridge gets motivated by this poor playoff run..most importantly, he needs to take basketball seriously and work on his ing body, stop coming into camp overweight..he's at an age where physical fitness is more important than it has ever been for him..

His style of play is already difficult to built around, but it's exacerbated by carrying excess weight..

if he's smart he does next year. It's a contract year.

[sasaint]

To paraphrase Pop, who recently said, we're going to have to him a gazillion dollars or something to that effect.

As you know, I never thought he was going anywhere anyway and the Parker injury only made it less likely.

It's simple: They'd want him back anyway, but barring significant roster upheaval, which I've delved into, they don't have the means to replace him. Lose him and they'd lose Dedmon and unless they got lucky, the ability to sign a decent replacement because the MLE would then have to go to a point guard.

I think Pop was just talking about how well Patty had been playing when he made that comment - not sharing thoughts about actual offseason plans.

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If he goes out on a bad note any hype he might have should be dead, so you figure that has to shave some off the asking price. Not to mention the hometown discount. Danny took 10 million per. With that being said do you think Patty is more valuable? Real talk here. How much do you pay a place holder point guard and for how long? You might have to draft another point guard, but i definitely think we need a veteran guard that will be a steady hand when Murray isn't playing well. Juwan Evans or Frank Jackson maybe.

No, it won't. Mills is a proven player, who's had to play a role not representative of his abilities. Not only starting, but not really playing with a wing who can relieve him of creative duties and being treated as the top perimeter threat by the number two defense in the league.

Green is definitely more valuable than Mills, but it's irrelevant since he took a massive discount and the cap will have jumped twice since then by this summer. Mills probably gets $10-12M, but the former wouldn't surprise me. Spurs have been creative with structure before and could give him a Diaw like partially guaranteed 4th season, which gets his overall number up but lowers the average annual value and cap hit.

I don't see them drafting another point guard. Not with Murray in the fold, no point guard prospect projected to have his upside in that range and future holes all over the roster.

I think they'll target Williams to fill the veteran stop gap role.

I think Pop was just talking about how well Patty had Ben playing when he made that comment - not sharing thoughts about actual offseason plans.

He let it slip in the phrasing of it.

[sasaint]

I don't see them drafting another point guard. Not with Murray in the fold, no point guard prospect projected to have his upside in that range and future holes all over the roster.

I think they'll target Williams to fill the veteran stop gap role.

I agree completely about not drafting a redundant, young PG. We have too many other needs.

You mean Deron Williams? Hmm... I don't think I like it, but I could sure see Pop going there.

[raybies]

Don't like Deron Williams here either.

[skulls138]

As much as I dislike him, I'd still keep him, tbh, unless they get an offer that blows them away..unfortunately, his stock is at rock bottom after this playoff run, especially since the media has been constantly bashing him, as well..

Spurs have to hope that Aldridge gets motivated by this poor playoff run..most importantly, he needs to take basketball seriously and work on his ing body, stop coming into camp overweight..he's at an age where physical fitness is more important than it has ever been for him..

His style of play is already difficult to built around, but it's exacerbated by carrying excess weight..

Agreed. Got to keep him and hope for the best. And yes he's got to more in the offseason, not only his body but low post play. This is what screwed him this year, lack of decisiveness in the post and chucking it with fadeaways where he's leaning back so far he's out of control. When he's doing that its obviously out of desperation. You could tell he was doing much of his learning during the season instead of ironing these things out in the offseason.

[SAGirl]

I still believe this, though. I didn't want us to sign LMA, and I still don't like his game or want him one the team.

Spurs do have some unlikeable players.
I am not in favor of overpaying Mills truth be told. But I can definitely see TD 21 point, plus Pop loves him.
I just am very aware of his limitations and a guy like that, not even fully 6'0" tall who needs shots created for him and will always be a defensive liability due to his size... plus he's not a real PG... not even a backup PG in reality who can distribute. /sigh

[sasaint]

Spurs do have some unlikeable players.
I am not in favor of overpaying Mills truth be told. But I can definitely see TD 21 point, plus Pop loves him.
I just am very aware of his limitations and a guy like that, not even fully 6'0" tall who needs shots created for him and will always be a defensive liability due to his size... plus he's not a real PG... not even a backup PG in reality who can distribute. /sigh

When Patty heats up he is a lot of fun. I would really miss hearing Bill Land say, " G'day Mate!" when Patty nails a three... But I think our roster is pretty bare, and the pipeline is virtually empty. We need more players who can be effective at both ends of the floor. I can't see spending much at all on Patty.

[raybies]

When Patty heats up he is a lot of fun. I would really miss hearing Bill Land say, " G'day Mate!" when Patty nails a three... But I think our roster is pretty bare, and the pipeline is virtually empty. We need more players who can be effective at both ends of the floor. I can't see spending much at all on Patty.

Totally agree. Patty should want his payday now. I doubt he gets anything near what he can make now, later. Just don't want to be the team to give it to him.