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    With players that aren't Manu, preferably ones that the Spurs are drafting and bringing from overseas.
    No matter how many young prospects the Spurs get they are still going to need to fill the roster with a couple of veterans signed for the minimum. Manu being one of those makes the most sense.

    It is. Why we're talking about what "should be" is boggling my mind. Manu's said that he's not coming back to be a bench-warmer.

    I honestly haven't paid too much attention outside of max guys. I'll know more after the draft.
    Well, then get back at me when you get that figured out, so far none of the other options (Hanga or Simmons) are better signings than Manu.


    Manu might be better than Hanga, but he's not a better use of a min deal/13th-man spot.
    Sure, for the same price and as a 13th man, I would rather have Hanga to see if he can develop his ty shooting, but the problem is that: 1st, the Spurs signing a better rotation SG than Manu is far from a given and 2nd, Hanga will, without a doubt, demand more money for more years.
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    Hanga isn't better than Bertans was last year. I'll be very surprised if the Spurs sign him with anything more than the min. But continuing to ignore the idea that Manu's not coming to be a 11th-15th man or that the talent level of those guys is irrelevant just makes no sense.

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    Assuming he comes back for the minimum, I don't see the harm. You aren't going to get a better player, floor general, and leader than Manu at that price, even if he is pushing 40. Plus it means one more year of watching a Spurs legend (although I may be a little biased, as Manu is one of my all-time favorite players).

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    "Who cares if this car is a piece of ? We're not going to find a better one for $300."

    "We could just spend more than $300 on a car and not settle for a POS."

    "..."

    "Did somebody say POS?"

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    As expected tbh... nothing to see... welcome back Manu...

    Next year in POs we will have Pau Manu and Parker

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    Hanga isn't better than Bertans was last year. I'll be very surprised if the Spurs sign him with anything more than the min.
    Hanga is older and with individual silverware to show, he's probably going to demand more money than Bertans, being not even half the player Bertans is. Also, he will not sign a one year contract like Manu would, tbh. My problem with Hanga isn't so much the money as is his awful trully ty shooting, tbh. I just think the Spurs should stop looking his way altogether.

    But continuing to ignore the idea that Manu's not coming to be a 11th-15th man or that the talent level of those guys is irrelevant just makes no sense.
    So, you just chose to ignore this part?

    Sure, for the same price and as a 13th man, I would rather have Hanga to see if he can develop his ty shooting, but the problem is that: 1st, the Spurs signing a better rotation SG than Manu is far from a given and 2nd, Hanga will, without a doubt, demand more money for more years.

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    Assuming he comes back for the minimum, I don't see the harm. You aren't going to get a better player, floor general, and leader than Manu at that price, even if he is pushing 40. Plus it means one more year of watching a Spurs legend (although I may be a little biased, as Manu is one of my all-time favorite players).
    +1

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    As expected tbh... nothing to see... welcome back Manu...

    Next year, the POS's we will have Pau Manu and Parker


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    Like $2.4 Million
    Thanks for the info! Not too shabby for 15 min a night, I hope Manu does that

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    "Who cares if this car is a piece of ? We're not going to find a better one for $300."

    "We could just spend more than $300 on a car and not settle for a POS."

    "..."

    "Did somebody say POS?"
    That's a pretty re ed anology, tbh.

    First of all, Manu isn't a piece of . In fact, he's probably the best car available at 300 hundred bucks.

    And second, the Spurs are already planning on not settling and paying more, a lot more, for a guard. Just on the PG position, which is a much bigger need than SG.

    Dude, you want to sign Okafor. You really shouldn't be arguing so hard about rosters moves considering that if you were the Spurs GM Kawhi would probably not be in San Antonio because of lack of respect, tbh.

    "Danny Green is a better defender than Kawhi".
    Aldridge should be the number one option over Kawhi".

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    That's a pretty re ed anology, tbh.

    First of all, Manu isn't a piece of . In fact, he's probably the best car available at 300 hundred bucks, tbh.

    And second, the Spurs are already planning on not settling and paying more, a lot more, for a guard. Just on the PG position, which is a much bigger need than SG, tbh.

    Dude, you want to sign Okafor. Youreally shouldn't be arguing so hard about rosters moves considering that if you were the Spurs GM Kawhi would probably not be in San Antonio because of lack of respect, tbh.

    "Danny Green is a better defender than Kawhi".
    Aldridge should be the number one option over Kawhi".
    Don't do him like that bro.

    Also dedman is the DPOY.

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    Where exactly did Woj say this?
    Have we established this yet? I haven't seen it. Also, local news reported that Manu may take much longer to decide. If that's the case, he'd probably have to weigh taking much less than he made this year.

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    League pass subscription and farewell jersey and tickets linegering on his decision

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    It would be awful. They need an actual solution at guard, none of this "if he can give 12 good minutes" . I'd rather Hanga take his spot at this point.
    What if he comes back for $14M?

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    If Spurs trade DG, they should net back a 1st round pick.

    If they trade DG, it won't be a good move if they blindly draft/stash their picks. This draft has a lot of value. I'll be pissed.

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    If Spurs trade DG, they should net back a 1st round pick.

    If they trade DG, it won't be a good move if they blindly draft/stash their picks. This draft has a lot of value. I'll be pissed.
    Can we get any pick for fathead?

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    That's a pretty re ed anology, tbh.

    First of all, Manu isn't a piece of . In fact, he's probably the best car available at 300 hundred bucks.
    You seem to really be struggling with a basic concept. It doesn't matter if Manu's the best 13th man. It doesn't matter if he is the best the Spurs can get for the min. It doesn't matter if a jalopy is the best jalopy you can get for $300. Spend more and stop setting for things that can't get it done.

    This should be simple. Spend money and bring in someone better than Manu. That's it. Instead of grasping that, you try to pull out of context to cover up.

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    Manu on a 1+1 minimum, where opts in but is cut so he gets that second year money, would be almost $5 million, and that would be fine.

    I'll also say this: if they bring back Pau and Mills they aren't serious about contending.

    And if they aren't serious about contending, then they should at least be entertaining. Bring back Manu in that case, they're going to need him. Pay him whatever in that scenario, not like anything will matter anyway. Might as well enjoy seeing him make a slick Manu pass every regular season game.

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    You seem to really be struggling with a basic concept. It doesn't matter if Manu's the best 13th man. It doesn't matter if he is the best the Spurs can get for the min. It doesn't matter if a jalopy is the best jalopy you can get for $300. Spend more and stop setting for things that can't get it done.

    This should be simple. Spend money and bring in someone better than Manu. That's it. Instead of grasping that, you try to pull out of context to cover up.
    The Spurs want to spend their money on Chris Paul, if they succeed, they won't have more money to spend on other quality players, so getting Manu for the minimum is the best they can hope for. How's that for a basic concept?

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    You seem to really be struggling with a basic concept. It doesn't matter if Manu's the best 13th man. It doesn't matter if he is the best the Spurs can get for the min. It doesn't matter if a jalopy is the best jalopy you can get for $300. Spend more and stop setting for things that can't get it done.

    This should be simple. Spend money and bring in someone better than Manu. That's it. Instead of grasping that, you try to pull out of context to cover up.
    Jerry West isn't walking through those doors. RC Buford is the best $300 GM money can buy and he happens to be co-owner in the Spurs loyalty for life program. If you're asking him to think outside the box, you might as well be talking to a chimpanzee.

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    The Spurs want to spend their money on Chris Paul, if they succeed, they won't have more money to spend on other quality players, so getting Manu for the minimum is the best they can hope for. How's that for a basic concept?
    Because the cap calculus probably won't be that tight. They'll have the room exception and likely will have a pick and Simmons' hold. Right now, they don't have enough to get Paul. If they make further moves to get that space, things might change. But if you end up with a starting and backup two-guard, then Manu for the min makes no sense. That you keep trying to play the "he doesn't have to be in the rotation" card despite him saying he does is another thing that is holding you up.

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    Because the cap calculus probably won't be that tight. They'll have the room exception and likely will have a pick and Simmons' hold. Right now, they don't have enough to get Paul. If they make further moves to get that space, things might change. But if you end up with a starting and backup two-guard, then Manu for the min makes no sense. That you keep trying to play the "he doesn't have to be in the rotation" card despite him saying he does is another thing that is holding you up.
    So tell me, imagining that everything goes according to the Spurs plans and they sign CP3. How much money would they have left and who do you think could come, for that money, to be a better rotation player than Manu? If you don't have an aswer for that, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.

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    So tell me, providing that everything goes according to the Spurs plans and they sign CP3. How much money would they have left and who do you think could come, for that money, to be a better rotation player than Manu? If you don't have an aswer for that, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
    It depends on what the Spurs do to make the space. They'd have plenty of room if they dump LMA for example, and they could use some of that excess on a guard. And if they do trade LMA, would they get a guard back or a pick they'd use on a guard? Would the Spurs re-sign Mills and run Patty/Murray as their backup guards?

    It's not clean cut. Right now (meaning barring trades or stretching Tony), it really doesn't look like Paul is an option, but they still will have the cap room to go after other guys.

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    CP3 won't sign with the Spurs tbh

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