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    Just watch Animal House instead.


    Otto: Germans?

    Boone: forget it, he's rolling.

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    I am learning new stuff about he world War I and II. Didn't realize the Internet came out around the time of the Ford model t. And I also could have sworn pearl Harbor was bombed in war II by Mongolia or some other oriental nation.

    I am going to go brush up on my history real quick. I am all confused.

    Reading is hard and takes a long time. Do a YouTube search on "The Real Truth About WWI". It's a lot easier if you just watch a video.

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    Reading is hard and takes a long time. Do a YouTube search on "The Real Truth About WWI". It's a lot easier if you just watch a video.
    Reading is fundamental. Unless you are like stork, who might be braindead. Then it becomes difficult.

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    Cancer Aldridge cancering the place up

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    This part of what I meant when I wanted the Spurs to wait until 2018, tbh..people think it's because of the FA class, but that isn't the primary reason..next off-season provides a fresh start, where they no longer have to feel loyal to guys like Parker, Ginobili or even Gasol/Green/Aldridge..

    Many seem to ignore the way this organization operates, which is heavily influenced by the culture they have created(which involves loyalty)..I don't know why anybody would think that they aren't going to allow Parker to remain a starter or at least have a prominent role until his contract ends, it's clearly their plan IMO..it obviously hurts the team(Parker playing well in the Memphis series was nice, short-term, but would have been harmful for next season if he hadn't gotten hurt) but not everything is about the on-court product..
    Never any actual plan, just criticize almost every player, projected market value of them or both, while simultaneously saying league has never been better. Not sure how those two things could be possible.

    Essentially, Spurs should waste portion of top 3 player's prime, so that they could have financial flexibility for what exactly? Even if one of few players you approve of makes it to free agency, according to you, they'd never sign in San Antonio. So if likes of Millsap or Hill is best they can do, why not sign them? Not spending for the sake of it, is a good way to piss off top 3 player and eventually lose him.

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    Never any actual plan, just criticize almost every player, projected market value of them or both, while simultaneously saying league has never been better. Not sure how those two things could be possible.

    Essentially, Spurs should waste portion of top 3 player's prime, so that they could have financial flexibility for what exactly? Even if one of few players you approve of makes it to free agency, according to you, they'd never sign in San Antonio. So if likes of Millsap or Hill is best they can do, why not sign them? Not spending for the sake of it, is a good way to piss off top 3 player and eventually lose him.
    Get Millsap and push hard for Paul George instead of G Hill. LMA to PHX, George to SA, Bender, White, SA 1st in 2018, PHX (via MIA) 1st in 18' to IND. Throw in Kyle or Davis if needed.

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    Just a reminder:

    The only linkage of Paul to the Spurs came from Twitter troll / Laker reporter Ramonna Gunnells, and Paul after the fact.
    Yup. Until Paul speaks on the matter, my s given will be zero.

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    Get Millsap and push hard for Paul George instead of G Hill.
    i like this. that's as good as it can get for the spurs this offseason.

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    Get Millsap and push hard for Paul George instead of G Hill. LMA to PHX, George to SA, Bender, White, SA 1st in 2018, PHX (via MIA) 1st in 18' to IND. Throw in Kyle or Davis if needed.
    Don't think Suns would attach Heat '18 1st to Bender for Aldridge and Murray would probably have to replace White to have any chance of pulling that off. White would be better fit with two ball dominant wings anyway. Also, Green, who'd be somewhat expendable anyway with George, would have to go because they'd need cap space to re-sign Gasol. Spurs wouldn't back out of commitment to him.

    I'd do that in a second if I thought the chances of George re-signing were even decent. Spurs would have to have long discussion with him and have some level of confidence in that to pull trigger.

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    Don't think Suns would attach Heat '18 1st to Bender for Aldridge and Murray would probably have to replace White to have any chance of pulling that off. White would be better fit with two ball dominant wings anyway. Also, Green, who'd be somewhat expendable anyway with George, would have to go because they'd need cap space to re-sign Gasol. Spurs wouldn't back out of commitment to him.

    I'd do that in a second if I thought the chances of George re-signing were even decent. Spurs would have to have long discussion with him and have some level of confidence in that to pull trigger.
    Spurs would be idiots to include Murray for 1 yr rental, no commitment from George.

    If I'm SA I throw in White, Bertans, rights to Milutinov, 18' 1st and PHX can throw in Bender ( SA + IND can ask about MIA's 1st in 18) for Paul George rental ( for now). Trying not to be biased, but I think that's fair value considering Paul Georges' likely 1 and done situation.

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    We dodged a bullet not getting this clown.

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    Spurs would be idiots to include Murray for 1 yr rental, no commitment from George.

    If I'm SA I throw in White, Bertans, rights to Milutinov, 18' 1st and PHX can throw in Bender ( SA + IND can ask about MIA's 1st in 18) for Paul George rental ( for now). Trying not to be biased, but I think that's fair value considering Paul Georges' likely 1 and done situation.
    I know. Obviously, they wouldn't get commitment, but that's why I said they'd have to have some level of confidence in his re-signing to think about it. Think that's what it would take to have a chance to acquire him though.

    Also, Hawks would have to get something for agreeing to Millsap sign and trade; even if it's just a trade exception. Spurs don't have space to sign him outright, even by salary dumping Green because as I said, Gasol needs to be re-signed with cap space and they will do right by him.

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    I know. Obviously, they wouldn't get commitment, but that's why I said they'd have to have some level of confidence in his re-signing to think about it. Think that's what it would take to have a chance to acquire him though.

    Also, Hawks would have to get something for agreeing to Millsap sign and trade; even if it's just a trade exception. Spurs don't have space to sign him outright, even by salary dumping Green because as I said, Gasol needs to be re-signed with cap space and they will do right by him.
    Spurs can have the space. They just need a verbal/strong commitment from Millsap and then they can dump LA to PHX before Millsap signs.

    Get Millsap to commit, trade LA to PHX in a dump, then trade Danny to PHL in a dump.

    Sign Millsap, go after another wing via FA (Iggy?) or via trade absorbing salary ( George, Chandler, Harkless, Aminu?). Use rest of space to make good w/ Pau. Then re-sign Simmons w/ bird rights, SA can exceed the cap. Then its open game for Manu, Lee, vet PG to sign for minimum deals.

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    Spurs can have the space. They just need a verbal/strong commitment from Millsap and then they can dump LA to PHX before Millsap signs.

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    griffin is meeting with phoenix on saturday so any possible LMA trade to the suns will be predicated on how that griffin/suns dynamic plays out.

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    Now that Chris Paul is gone i don't think Griffin is going anywhere. His main issue was he hated CP3, with Paul gone and LAC likely offering him the max i don't see him going anywhere

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    bull . At the end of the day, Paul didn't want to with Popovich cutting his stats down with 12 minute games at the end of the season and resting him for guranteed wins. Everyone talks that "popvoch is the greatest coach and I would love to play for him" bull , but nobody really wants to play for that mf. It just sounds good to say. Because he makes the games about him. He does silly during the games so people can talk about him in the post game and tactics he uses. How many times are we winning a a game by 20 and then he puts in the most BULL lineup to test some out, then leaves them in too long? . I'm tired of him. He's done a lot for the franchise but he's almost 70 ing years old. NO man in his 70s should be coaching today..

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    Now that Chris Paul is gone i don't think Griffin is going anywhere. His main issue was he hated CP3, with Paul gone and LAC likely offering him the max i don't see him going anywhere

    I think you're probably right. Jerry West will be working the out of Griffin, and making it sound like the trade was his idea. Honestly, I'm not so sure the Clips won't be a better team this year, regardless of what happens in Houston. Those two big bas s making life miserable in the middle, and Beverly making life hard out on the perimeter? They are going to be a frustrating team to play against, I think.

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    if we didn't have tony last summer, maybe we get conley.
    if we didn't have tony this summer, maybe we get cp3.
    Truth nukes.

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    Maybe nukes.

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    Never any actual plan, just criticize almost every player, projected market value of them or both, while simultaneously saying league has never been better. Not sure how those two things could be possible.

    Essentially, Spurs should waste portion of top 3 player's prime, so that they could have financial flexibility for what exactly? Even if one of few players you approve of makes it to free agency, according to you, they'd never sign in San Antonio. So if likes of Millsap or Hill is best they can do, why not sign them? Not spending for the sake of it, is a good way to piss off top 3 player and eventually lose him.
    I'm not sure why you keep saying this, tbh..

    My primary objections have been against Chris Paul and paying full max deals for old players..my problem with Chris Paul has always been related to the money and contract length he was going to receive, since it's evident to anybody that has followed his case that his objective is to get a super max deal(and if not getting as much money and years as possible, then at least to position himself to get paid while having flexibility to form the banana boat squad)..he ing rigged the CBA in his favor

    I don't have a problem with acquiring Millsap if he takes a discount, or at the very least, would be willing to take a short deal..there's a long list of players I would be fine with if they agree to a discount or a short-term deal..

    My objection is paying big money and/or 5-year deals for old players..I don't want to pay 30 mil for Paul Millsap at age 36 or 40 mil to Chris Paul at age 37..however, I don't have a problem with those same players if they take discounts or shorter deals, because as I've been saying and you just echoed, nobody wants to play in SA..

    Didn't we just go through this with Tony Parker's contract?
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    Let me ask everyone for a simple or maybe a not so simple question... Why the media only seems to be mentioning Houston & Cleveland as suitors for any of the remaining Top free agents out there.. They talk like it is a foregone conclusion that only these 2 teams are in the mix for anyone else..
    2ndly - Does anyone have an ideas who teams who have staked teams like a GoldenState or Cleveland can afford to afford to pay a all-star roster and look to add 1 more, when the spurs cannot even afford to resign a bench player in PMILLS. And we only have 1 superstar player in KL.

    Would just like to know some of your theories on this.
    Boston and Utah are around too.
    Paul Goerge and Lakers may be a thing.
    no rumors on the Spurs... except Millsap.
    They can resign Patty if they want to but he has a 6.something mill cap hold which hurts them if they want to add a FA, and they already have a couple of PG prospects who can shoot that would take Patty's role if they can't resign him.
    Also, Patty has not hidden his intent to test the FA market bc he wants to maximize his contract

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    Bull .
    He is just worried that Murray will develop quickly and he will be accompanying Parker on the bench.

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    Bull .
    He is just worried that Murray will develop quickly and he will be accompanying Parker on the bench.
    nah he's more worried about Patty Mills. known Patty Mills fan, which is fine tbh.

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