Stein: Spurs Planning to Offer $9M/per to Simmons

[Leetonidas]

Meh. I think this is fair. He is one of the few players who stepped up and played with balls in the playoffs.

[HarlemHeat37]

9/year would be a great deal with high value potential, tbh..it's bench player money, at this point, and it would eliminate the risk of paying Simmons solely based on 2 weeks of good playoff basketball(his only good stretch in a Spurs uniform in 2 years)..look at the $ guys like Allen Crabbe received, last off-season, for example..

If I'm Simmons, I take all the money I can get, though..he has potential, but again, he's getting paid based on 2 weeks of basketball, following consecutive Regular Seasons where he fell out of the rotation by the end of the year..if a team is going to give you huge $ based on a 2-week stretch you may never replicate again, take it and run..

[Leetonidas]

Worse comes to worse he becomes an extremely tradeable contract

[TimDunkem]

9/year would be a great deal, tbh..it's bench player money, at this point, and it would eliminate the risk of paying Simmons solely based on 2 weeks of good playoff basketball(his only good stretch in a Spurs uniform in 2 years)..look at the $ guys like Allen Crabbe received, last off-season, for example..

If I'm Simmons, I take all the money I can get, though..he has potential, but again, he's getting paid based on 2 weeks of basketball, following consecutive Regular Seasons where he fell out of the rotation by the end of the year..if a team is going to give you huge $ based on a stretch you may never replicate again, take it and run..

Some guys come into their own in the big moments which was a good sign for him, although it's obviously no guarantee that he sustains it...He definitely outplayed Danny in just about every single way against the Rockets AND Warriors.

[Chinook]

Hill is 6'2'' with a 6'9'' wingspan. Bradley is 6'2'' with a 6'6'' wingspan. Of course, it's not ideal, but you can't have everything. If Hill-Parker start and play limited minutes together for 1 and 1/2 seasons to break up Murray-Simmons back court, is end result of upgrading from Green to Hill and getting an '18 1st, so be it.

Draymond is 6-7 in shoes. Doesn't mean every short and stocky guy can play the five. More importantly, the Celtics got killed defensively last year when Bradley was on the court. The team certainly doesn't need to start that.

I can understand argument that getting a long-term solution at PG is worth Green. I can't get behind Hill at the two being an upgrade to Green. It's really not. The "Dark Ages" for the team were signified by three things in my mind: RJ, Turd Towers, Hill playing the wing.

Again, a lot of variables. If Murray isn't ready and Simmons is fine with starters (maybe he would be alongside a PG like Hill), Parker would come off bench.

If Parker is in the plans, then Hill doesn't make sense. You sign Hill or any of the other PGs for big contracts, you're getting a starter. Maybe I could see saying that Hill was the new sixth man or something. But not the starting two. There are better options (including just not signing Hill) out there.

If Murray is starting, they can't continue to say with a straight face that they're trying to contend for the championship.

The Spurs can go a year like that to clean their books. They don't need to do everything in their power to get marginally better every year. No one but Cleveland can do that, and even they are about to hit a wall. The Spurs didn't keep a le window open for more than two decades by treating every year like it was do or die.

[objective]

9 million is barely more than the mle, and he's easily worth that as a rotation wing and opens up the moving of Green should they need it

[baseline bum]

$9 million starting would be a fair offer. So something like 4 years, $39 million. If Simmons can get more, like say 4 years, $45 million it would be a much tougher call. I do think Simmons will get an offer tonight from someone and it would be stupid for him to not agree to an offer sheet while the market is hot. I wouldn't hold it against him if he did, as much as I want to see him back in a Spurs uniform. He has worked hard for this day and he deserves to go get his money. Hopefully the Spurs will find a way to be that team.

[objective]

Spurs leaking a 9 million offer could be a preemptive PR ploy.

That way, if Simmons leaves it looks like the Spurs tried and Simmons was just greedy (see Pop and Vinny Del Negro a few years back).

(Info isn't released by the secretive Spurs unless they have a reason to let it out.)

Yeah, they put it out there to let teams know that they'll pay the first 2 years of an Arenas RFA deal no problem. If any one else thinks they can scare the Spurs off cheap, they just were corrected.

[baseline bum]

9 million is barely more than the mle, and he's easily worth that as a rotation wing and opens up the moving of Green should they need it

It actually sounds like it is the MLE they're offering. Four years starting at the $8.4 million MLE with 4.5% raises would be just under 4 years, $36 million.

[Mr. Body]

Danny Green's deal is a freakin' bargain.

[TD 21]

Draymond is 6-7 in shoes. Doesn't mean every short and stocky guy can play the five. More importantly, the Celtics got killed defensively last year when Bradley was on the court. The team certainly doesn't need to start that.

I can understand argument that getting a long-term solution at PG is worth Green. I can't get behind Hill at the two being an upgrade to Green. It's really not. The "Dark Ages" for the team were signified by three things in my mind: RJ, Turd Towers, Hill playing the wing.



If Parker is in the plans, then Hill doesn't make sense. You sign Hill or any of the other PGs for big contracts, you're getting a starter. Maybe I could see saying that Hill was the new sixth man or something. But not the starting two. There are better options (including just not signing Hill) out there.



The Spurs can go a year like that to clean their books. They don't need to do everything in their power to get marginally better every year. No one but Cleveland can do that, and even they are about to hit a wall. The Spurs didn't keep a le window open for more than two decades by treating every year like it was do or die.

No, but Hill and Bradley have same body type too. It's not like Bradley is any more stout. Green has a unique build.

Fair enough.

If in 2 years time or less, Hill and Murray are starting together, they could both defend SG's. Think you're getting too caught up in outdated positional designations.

They could run it back and they very well might, but I don't want to hear anything about contending then, because they wouldn't even be trying to . . . and as always from someone in the don't do anything camp, no actual '18 plan; just vague statements.

[Chinook]

Should be $37.632M/4 for a full MLE-based offer for Simmons. Dude's eligible for eight-percent raises from his EB rights.

[Namundy]

Fair offer. He can get more obviously but he knows why he's in the NBA right now. Any other organization would not have given him this opportunity. He's a smart dude and either way he's going to be able to take care of them girls so good for him.

[Play Boban]

I just puked. 9 Million for Simmons.

I have a headache.

[CGD]

Great value. Also makes a team that wants to offer a poison pill offer think twice about that balloon payment in year 3.

[ducks]

I thought he wanted a 2 year deal and then be 29 and sign a big deal then

[Spurs9]

Thats fair, I like it, he will keep improving. Dude showed way more energy than Gasol/LMA.

[urunobili]

Deserved pay day

[SpurOutofTownFan]

This can only be good if he's going to start - otherwise it's just a bad play. Does it also mean Green is gone? Perhaps

[Mugen]

I hope Brooklyn throws 12mil/year at him tbh.

[AFBlue]

Whatever Kent Bazemore got last year is probably in the neighborhood of what he'll be offered.

[mudyez]

Fair deal. Hope he stays.

[BackHome]

Good for him. Dude is smarter than he looks.

No his AGENT is smarter then his looks.

[Robz4000]

Taking a chance on a johnny one note is risky business. He's had two sub par regular seasons and one good postseason. There's a lot at risk in terms of flexibility if it doesn't pan out.

Better than giving that money to Gasol or some other TOSB imo (even though they're prolly gonna do it anyway).

[Hoops Czar]

Better than giving that money to Gasol or some other TOSB imo (even though they're prolly gonna do it anyway).

Bingo!!!