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With you on this. Too soon to tell. He’s been know to shoot well.
He just didn’t shoot well this particular game.
Wow, BP3 isn't even a tenth of scrub because Malik Hairston, I mean Jonathon Simmons is a flat out scrub? Just think about that for a second, a scrub is bad enough, how bad do you have to be to be a tenth of a scrub? Granted, he hasn't been great but he's been league average which more than I could say about Simmons if you subtract all that stat padding. BP3 has a WS/48 .103 compared to Simmons .043 (scrubalicious) and the exact same WS of .05 which is a bit surprising when you considering that win shares is a counting stat and BP3 has played 353 less minutes. If BP3 isn't very good, What does that make Simmons? People forget just how unplayable Simmons was at times during his rookie season yet posters are jumping down Paul's throat because He isn't instant success. At least give him a season to develop before calling it.
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With you on this. Too soon to tell. He’s been know to shoot well.
He just didn’t shoot well this particular game.
Last edited by SAGirl; 12-06-2017 at 07:10 AM.
true, anyone could have seen it.
he was complaing about calls a little too much ... looked like Chris Paul out there in that regard
He is changing who gets the situational minutes. For example, Bertans is getting more minutes at the 4 over Lavergne the past week. Paul and Forbes rotate who gets back end minutes at the wing.
Of course the front line is set but it's the guys getting the 1 or 2 rotations for 15 mins in a game at the back end that are changing from game to game. He'll also have a few more of these rest games so that guys like White can get playing time while he rests the injured, the recovering, and the grandpa crew.
In Early Spring he tightens the rotation and 1 pr 2 guys stop seeing minutes at the back end of the rotation. SPAM onsets. Pop has done this for two decades.
He was getting a bit too riled up and compe ive. The calls really were ty.
Ignoring the fact that Simmons never wanted to be a Spur, why do people judge players in a vacuum? Excluding the all timers, it's always about context. Paul is clearly a better range shooter and more sound player than Simmons, while Simmons is clearly more athletic and better at creating his own shot than Paul.
Thing is, Spurs have a Simmons archetype, with a higher upside, waiting in the wings, in Murray. Had Simmons been re-signed, when Ginobili retires, they'd have either had Murray blocked from a path to the rotation or playing alongside Simmons and Anderson. Neither scenario made sense. Paul will be a much better fit playing off of them.
The statement I bolded is what makes all of this Simmons playerfanning really a troll shtick.
Thing is, Spurs have a Simmons archetype, with a higher upside, waiting in the wings, in Murray. Had Simmons been re-signed, when Ginobili retires, they'd have either had Murray blocked from a path to the rotation or playing alongside Simmons and Anderson. Neither scenario made sense. Paul will be a much better fit playing off of them.
Takes that have context and make objective sense have no place in many troll heads.
^ yet this got is the first one to bump Simmons threads every time the Magic lose a game
I did not see a foul when he dunked the ball from the baseline ... someone undercut him, but this will never be called when the dunk was successful.
Pop couldn't trust this scrub for 1 minute last night. SAD.
And to think some of you autists compared this scrub to an efficient 19 points Per 36 scorer like Simmons.... DAF86
Remember Simmons first couple of games on the NBA? Bunch of DNPs and two pts games.
Also lol at empty calories Simmons having net negative metrics all across the board. No matter how the guy plays he always manages to have the worst +/- on the Magic. Everygame.
Paul now is around the same age Simmons when he was a rookie. Remember how bad Simmons looked his first season also after he went off in the summer league before. Of course Paul isn’t as good as Simmons now, but like TD 21 said he’s a better long term fit.
Look, I really, really like Brandon Paul, but the Spurs are in win now mode with Kawhi. You don't want to waste any of his prime.
SAgirl keeps saying Simmons didn't want to be here, but the Spurs didn't exactly make him feel wanted. Maybe he would have wanted to stay if they actually made him a priority like they did 50 Mills. Darn, what a waste of money. I'll keep saying it - I like Patty, but not at that price. The max I would have paid Patty if I was in charge is exactly what Simmons got. Anymore than that, I would have let him walk.
Well Simmons chose to not come back, not the Spurs or Brandon Paul’s fault. Before someone brings up “but we brought back 50 Mills and Gasol, I still don’t think Simmons would have re-signed. Plus there’s a number of guys in the rotation like Paul trying to prove themselves, we don’t have the luxury of making super teams like the Warriors.
If Simmons didn't want to come back at all no matter what, then I will let it go, but I really do think he got pissed off that the Spurs were basically holding him hostage with him being a restricted free agent. They didn't make him an offer at all and then other teams didn't make an offer either because they probably didn't want to waste time waiting for the Spurs to match.
If I was in Simmons' place I would have told the Spurs to shove it up their ass and left too. Even if I wanted to come back, after all that and how it played out, I would not have wanted to come back either. So again, I think it was the Spurs that made him not want to come back. I'd like to know if he had the intention of leaving before free agency started. If so, then I will drop it and forget about it. I just don't think he had the intention of outright leaving before free agency started. I could be wrong, but that is my take on it.
Simmons said many times that he thanked Pop for all he did for him but that he needed to play for a coach that gave him more freedom. In other words, he wanted to get the out.
It's hard to have an intention of leaving when you're a RFA. But the Spurs aren't the kind of franchise to match and retain a player who wants out.
Simmons is currently 82 out of 87 SF in the league in RPM per ESPN. AT this point... there's just not much more to be said. Wish him the best and that is it.Remember Simmons first couple of games on the NBA? Bunch of DNPs and two pts games.
Also lol at empty calories Simmons having net negative metrics all across the board. No matter how the guy plays he always manages to have the worst +/- on the Magic. Everygame.
Last Updated: December 5, 2017 11:00:02 AM PST2017-18 Real Plus-Minus - Small Forwards
RK NAME TEAM GP MPG ORPM DRPM RPM WINS 81 Michael Beasley NY 17 15.2 -2.28 -0.72 -3.00 0.02 82 Jonathon Simmons ORL 25 26.9 -0.52 -2.62 -3.14 -0.01 83 Harrison Barnes DAL 24 35.2 -1.22 -1.96 -3.18 -0.03 84 Dwayne Bacon CHA 21 18.7 -2.87 -0.38 -3.25 -0.03 85 Justin Jackson SAC 17 18.2 -2.67 -1.52 -4.19 -0.21 86 Paul Zipser CHI 19 16.6 -3.27 -1.16 -4.43 -0.24 87 Josh Jackson PHX 25 21.3 -3.16 -1.36 -4.52 -0.48
I don't keep saying he didn't want to be here. Simmons said it. flat out, in more than one occasion.
If guys want to keep thinking the earth is flat like Kyrie at some point one just has to let them.
What's that in reference too?
TJ Warren was ejected from a game last night (I didn't watch it just saw it in comments).
Recently Lebron got his first career ejection, and as far as I know all of Durant, A.Davis, Cousins (of course), but also Shaun Livingston, maybe others have very recently gotten ejected from games.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/a...s-this-season/
- Durant has been ejected three times already.
- Draymond Green and Durant are second and third in the NBA in technical fouls, respectively.
- The Warriors lead the NBA as a whole in techs.
The joke is in his last game that he played enough minutes against OKC, Brandon Paul got a technical for arguing a call. I think he definitely sympathized with Warren.
BP3 is flirting with a fine with that tweet, or at least would be under Stern.
Ok thanks...
I knew about the Lebron, Anthony Davis, GSW ejections... I was just wondering why the tweet had been issued today. But he wasn't trying to reference something else.
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